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Is it just me or does it seem like they are taking Onosato/Onosho more seriously than previous low ranking hot streaks? Feeding them to Kirishima/Kotonowaka Day 10 seems a little early.
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My boy Kotoeko 
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pseudodragon posted:Is it just me or does it seem like they are taking Onosato/Onosho more seriously than previous low ranking hot streaks? Feeding them to Kirishima/Kotonowaka Day 10 seems a little early. It's usually on day 10 that they start fighting the upper rankers. drat Kotonowaka really made Daieisho look toothless there...
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Jan 22, 2024 16:59
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Finally got Ura doing Ura things and Shodai being Shodai.
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Jan 22, 2024 17:08
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Kirishima almost got Shodai'd out of Yokozuna, lmao
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Jan 22, 2024 18:06
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Log082 posted:Kirishima almost got Shodai'd out of Yokozuna, lmao I mean he might as well be. Still hasn't faced other Ozekis or Terunofuji yet. 12-3 last basho, 7-2 this basho and he'll need at least a 12-3 to get it I'd say
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Jan 22, 2024 20:31
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Average Lettuce posted:It's usually on day 10 that they start fighting the upper rankers. Just checked some previous dudes and it looks like Day 11 was when they made dudes move up. 8-1 Ichiyamamoto got M11 Hiradoumi Day 10 and Daieisho Day 11 last time. Atamifuji didn't get Sanyaku until Day 12 and 11 in the previous 2 tourneys. Also the other big difference looks like Ichiyamamoto got a 7-4 Daiesho and Atamifuji got 8-4 Hoshoryu and 5-6 Tobizaru as their first sanyaku as 1/2 loss lower M. So it's not just getting moved up, it's getting moved up and getting the dudes on a Yoko/Ozeki run and in the yusho race themselves rather than getting like Daieisho or Wakamotoharu to play gatekeeper before using the big guns. But I guess with the withdrawals and Ura and most of the upper M ranks having a rough go, there's not many options. Atamifuji is having a better than expected tourney, but he's not really at the point of his career where they can trust him to go take care of the upstarts.
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Jan 22, 2024 20:59
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Chinook posted:I would like to keep Asanoyama. Ben Nerevarine posted:I also would like to request no auto-trade on Asanoyama Both noted. I will break from my stance of inveterate trading and also hold Asanoyama. As a results, the Day 10 trades for Asanoyama-holders is as follows: code:Makuuchi code:code:
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Jan 23, 2024 08:03
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Kenning, I think I should be on 35 points since Onosho got his KK yesterday and my stable picked up 3 wins. Thanks!
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Jan 23, 2024 09:11
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Kirishima-Onosho was easily match of the day.
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Jan 23, 2024 09:57
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Though it's tempting to just take Kinbozan, hinkaku dictates that I live with the decision I made on day 9. Kenning, if you would, please undo the auto-trade and give me Asanoyama again.FART BOSS posted:Yeah, I’m sticking with Asanoyama too. Hes the sort who will make a surprise comeback if at all possible.
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Jan 23, 2024 11:23
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Kenning posted:
oof. Mitakeumi is not having a good tournament. Hopefully he can pull out some wins in the last few days.
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Jan 23, 2024 11:48
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Ryuden v Abi: Rooting for the unlikely set of circumstances which lead up to both rikishi losing.
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Jan 23, 2024 12:56
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Why hasn't everyone been doing this to Onosato? In all seriousness, Kotonowaka basically gave Onosato the Onosato treatment. Kotonowaka really does look looser to take this one. Just hope he doesn't choke it away. I appreciated the Tamawashi/Atamifuji sumo helicopter. Kinbozan ranked at M6 with a 5-4 record going up against Terunofuji is certainly a choice. Almost like they wanted to make sure the Yokozuna got a KK before he takes on the sanyaku.
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Jan 23, 2024 13:18
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Nativity In Black posted:Why hasn't everyone been doing this to Onosato? No one has the size and strength to do it, I guess, even more so in the lower ranks. Nativity In Black posted:Kinbozan ranked at M6 with a 5-4 record going up against Terunofuji is certainly a choice. Almost like they wanted to make sure the Yokozuna got a KK before he takes on the sanyaku. I was wondering this myself. Truth be told, the upper maegashira ranks aren't doing very well, and they want to have Terunofuji, Kirishima, Hoshoryu and Kotonowaka (plus Onosho and Onosato) all to fight each other in the last days. The same can be said of Kotonowaka for tomorrow, facing Oho. I guess in the last 3 days he will fight Terunofuji, Kirishima and Hoshoryu.
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Jan 23, 2024 13:29
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Nativity In Black posted:
The sekiwake and ozeki are being saved for the final days of the basho, and all the higher ranked people than Kinbozan are kyujo, have worse records, or he’s already fought them.
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Jan 23, 2024 17:35
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Jan 23, 2024 18:02
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Hi Kenning - finally got around to inputting all the trades and checking your Day 9 against my tracker. Some differences you might want to check and my guesses as to the cause.code:
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Jan 23, 2024 19:03
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Onosato hit his first wall in Kotonowaka. Just looked helpless in there. Time to see how well he can adapt, and learn from losses. Tamawashi / Atamifuji SPIN2WIN Terunofuji Sometimes you just wanna throw a guy, y'know? Ura SHODAI Showed some effort, but not quite enough. Just Shodai things
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Jan 23, 2024 19:07
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Tamawashi vs Atamifuji https://i.imgur.com/NCbTIcy.mp4
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Jan 23, 2024 19:17
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Nativity In Black posted:
They gave him 5-4 Nishikigi (M5) the day before. I'm sure there are various circumstances that explain it but dang
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Jan 23, 2024 19:41
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Nativity In Black posted:
Being able to absorb his charge physically is pretty rare. Onosato absolutely blew up Takarafuji who uses the same general defensive sumo approach (stop/absorb the charge, counterattack) because he was just so much stronger and more explosive. https://twitter.com/HelenePastore/status/1748290685252346212 As the English commentators noted last night, Onosato's technique was also a little all over the place thanks to some sneaky work by Kotonowaka - he deflected the initial charge from center of mass and got inside such that Onosato couldn't reposition his hands to push. I do actually worry that seeing so much success with purely defensive sumo the last two days will cause Kotonowaka to repeat what happened last basho - he got too passive near the end as he went up against tougher opposition and allowed them to fully set the pace, which opens him up to getting outskilled. As far as scheduling goes, they also look at relative strength of performance in addition to record, which is why you see Oho getting tough matches despite a 6-4 record since he's looked stellar this tournament and all his losses have been close.
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Jan 23, 2024 20:01
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Missing a few days of daily tracking because those days wouldn't have been accurate without the trade confirmations and it would take a lot of effort now to go back and patch the data and recalc the results for each of those past days. So I'm jumping ahead to the results for Day 10 which assumes I've diagnosed the above issues correctly. If I didn't, I'll edit this later with remediated results after Kenning replies. Day 10:  
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Beeswax posted:They gave him 5-4 Nishikigi (M5) the day before. I'm sure there are various circumstances that explain it but dang By this point in the basho, Nishikigi was the highest ranked maegashira with a positive record that he hadn't already fought, which makes him a pretty reasonable choice since they tend to save the sanyaku/yokozuna matches for the final days of the basho.
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Jan 23, 2024 21:34
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Khizan posted:By this point in the basho, Nishikigi was the highest ranked maegashira with a positive record that he hadn't already fought, which makes him a pretty reasonable choice since they tend to save the sanyaku/yokozuna matches for the final days of the basho. Looks like they can do a Teru/Kiri/Hoshoryu/Koto round robin on Days 13-15
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Khizan posted:By this point in the basho, Nishikigi was the highest ranked maegashira with a positive record that he hadn't already fought, which makes him a pretty reasonable choice since they tend to save the sanyaku/yokozuna matches for the final days of the basho.  Don't give me that runaround
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Rooting for Kirishima because I want another yokozuna
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Despite the hurricane of kyujo we're seeing some excellent sumo this basho, and I'm delighted by it.Banana Canada posted:Hi Kenning - finally got around to inputting all the trades and checking your Day 9 against my tracker. Some differences you might want to check and my guesses as to the cause. I had definitely missed the KKs and MKs you mentioned, which have been since added. The trade penalties hadn't been applied yet since those were live on Day 10, but should be active by now. Thanks for keeping a separate record, it's helpful. Day 10 standings Makuuchi code:code:
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Jan 24, 2024 07:46
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 I honestly thought the biggest risk in my stable was going to be Kinbozan but Gonoyama is having an absolutely miserable time up in the joi. I'm really enjoying Hoshoryu and Kirishima's sumo right now; they've got different but extremely technical styles with just enough of a gap that every match is exciting. Kirishima getting his rope would be amazing but honestly I'd be thrilled with any of the current contenders taking the title - all of them are looking great right now. Even Terunofuji looks insanely dominant for a man held together with tape and hinkaku.
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Jan 24, 2024 07:55
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Kenning posted:Despite the hurricane of kyujo we're seeing some excellent sumo this basho, and I'm delighted by it.  I think I've punched my ticket into makuuchi, let's see what happens in the back third!
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Jan 24, 2024 13:30
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Seeing the Takanosho/Kotonosho match as the Makuuchi curtain jerker was kind of sad. There was a time where people probably thought that would have been a prime sanyaku matchup. 2020 ended with 25 year old Takanosho having a successful Sekiwake debut and a 20 year old Kotoshoho having a good tourney at M5 to start 2021 in the joi. Kotoshoho was even ranked higher than stablemate Kotonowaka who was bouncing around the lower Makuuchi/Juryo. Unfortunately for Koto, injuries knocked him all the way back into Juryo and he hasn't been able to regain his old form and Taka's had some injury issues too. A good tourney for both of them is a good sign though.
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Kenning posted:Day 10 standings ...I'm not sure how you're managing to stay below my score, Xerzes, but I salute your incredible determination. Day 11 watchthoughts: Glad to see Takanosho arresting his fall. He's not my favorite, but he's definitely better than his current rank. So is Kotoshoho, and I expect he'll get KK in the next day or two. Poor Endo. I don't know what his injury is, but I wish he'd just take six months off to heal and come back from Makushita or whatever. This is just sad. Kinbozan with one of the better yeets of the basho. I think maybe that face slap annoyed him a little. Eat poo poo, Ryuden. Tobizaru with the Extreme Salt Assassination. Matches between these two don't last long but they're always entertaining. Shodai. No, but really, that was an excellent bout and hopefully a confidence builder for Atamifuji. That kind of tightrope walk is scary and impressive every time. Ozekinowaka anyone? I'd bet that won't be his last win this basho. Kid's got it. Kirishima's road to Yokozuna is a lot more difficult given how many guys share his record. But he didn't do himself any harm today. Onosato should get an Outstanding Performance prize, but pretty sure he's out of contention for the basho. Hopefully he can come back next time, still without a topknot, and pull off a win. Terunofuji starting to come around on the Hakuho "Yokozuna sumo is winning sumo" pholisophy.
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code:Also, StupidSexyMothman is still quite a bit off what I'm tracking and I think it may be due to not counting Hoshoryu's wins along with a missing MK?
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Day 11: 
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bartolimu posted:Terunofuji starting to come around on the Hakuho "Yokozuna sumo is winning sumo" pholisophy. 
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Bentai posted:Hakuho's reaction was glorious: It's hard to read much into Terunofuji's expressions but he looked kinda amused that Onosho just gave him the arm drag like that. "You're not gonna pull it out? Alright, then..."
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bartolimu posted:...I'm not sure how you're managing to stay below my score, Xerzes, but I salute your incredible determination. When it comes to disappointing, I never disappoint.
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It's really nice that the top rank guys are all doing well. It feels like forever since we've had that.
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 An accurate comparison of the Kaiju vs Monkey fight.
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