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I read IT when I was still on pain-meds, so at some point the phrase “we all float down here” entered my active vocabulary. I use it as a synonym for “no worries/no problem”. Something’ll go wrong and I shrug and say, “We all float down here.” I’ve only been called out on it once.
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I thought that movie Stitches was solidly "okay" when I first saw it, but I was kind of fascinated by all the egg stuff in there. It added this weird, otherworldly occult thing to clowns and I thought it really elevated the movie beyond just being a "clown kills people" thing. Then I found out that, oh yeah, clowns just do that. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20171206-the-fascinating-reason-why-clowns-paint-their-faces-on-eggs And I'm sorry, but this right here should be the opening of a horror movie: quote:Just before we leave, Stone asks us whether we know what’s in a large black case that’s been sitting portentously to one side on a table throughout our conversation. We don’t, of course. He opens it to reveal 40 or so of the original Stan Bult-painted clown eggs. A bunch of presumably lost or destroyed clown eggs, being acquired from a private collector, that almost nobody has ever seen? Come on.
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Yeah I was introduced to the concept of a clown face registry via faces painted on eggs by Terry Pratchett Though in isolation the phrase "clown eggs" is both less fascinating and more terrifying than the reality
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Phy posted:Though in isolation the phrase "clown eggs" is both less fascinating and more terrifying than the reality If you'll excuse me, I need to check my crawlspace
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Finished The Terror last night. Very different from the book but both good different ways, I dont really like one better than the other but parts of each. I take it I just shouldn’t even bother with S2 though?
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Opopanax posted:Finished The Terror last night. Very different from the book but both good different ways, I dont really like one better than the other but parts of each. I take it I just shouldn’t even bother with S2 though? S2 is a totally different setting and story that’s fine but not amazing. If you go in hoping for more of S1, you’ll be disappointed. If you go in with just the expectation that it’s a random horror show, you’ll think it’s a B- and it’s nice to see George Takei in a thing.
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Opopanax posted:Finished The Terror last night. Very different from the book but both good different ways, I dont really like one better than the other but parts of each. I take it I just shouldn’t even bother with S2 though? I was not a fan of Season 2. Very slow and I remember multiple times that characters would do something really stupid or go somewhere for no apparent reason but to prolong the story and keep a mystery from being revealed. Definitely a case, for me at least, of an interesting setting, premise, and good actors being wasted on a crap story.
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There's a whole implied subplot where the Turtle is manipulating the Losers in the same way that IT uses Pennywise and those murderers. But King just drops it and it's the most frustrating thing about the book.
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https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1750564436694151482 Good news, nunsploitation enjoyers, we've got a new one in the pipeline.
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Pretty sure the Turtle is a Guardian of the Beams and It is a creature from The Prim which means he's a servant of the Crimson King. So the Turtle is probably trying to guide The Losers to victory over It because It's presence in Derry is a threat to the Beams.
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1750564436694151482
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Yeah I think once King decided to turn it into Dark Tower poo poo, he abandoned the original premise. But there's a lot that points to the Turtle influencing the characters and then erasing their memories of it. Two I remember best were: Right before Georgie dies in the gutter, he sees a can of Turtle Wax and can't quite remember why it's familiar. Maybe it was his brother? It's been a while. Or when the losers are eating Chinese food and someone points out how they're all suspiciously successful, but then they just shrug it off.
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Basebf555 posted:Pretty sure the Turtle is a Guardian of the Beams he's actually Guardian of the Universe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8lKCMIF4iA Rageaholic posted:I'd rather watch Benedetta again Benedetta was so good
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Benedetta was so good  It was one of my favorites the year it came out.
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moths posted:Yeah I think once King decided to turn it into Dark Tower poo poo, he abandoned the original premise. But there's a lot that points to the Turtle influencing the characters and then erasing their memories of it. Two I remember best were: I had assumed the suspicious success was the influence of Pennywise, but I might be wrong. A sort of "please just go away and leave me alone" thing, hoping that they'd never have a reason to come back to Derry. The tradeoff being that they couldn't have kids of their own. I always took the Turtle to be a bit more of a guiding force, like it's helping them against Pennywise but not necessarily pushing them into conflict with him.
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moths posted:Yeah I think once King decided to turn it into Dark Tower poo poo, he abandoned the original premise. But there's a lot that points to the Turtle influencing the characters and then erasing their memories of it. Two I remember best were: Nobody named Maturin could ever be clandestinely manipulative
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1750564436694151482 This could be fun. For one of the horror challenges I watched Nocturne, a horror starring Sweeney that I've never seen anyone talk about, and she made for a good lead.
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Man do I hate the Stephen King dark tower universe lore
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Crescent Wrench posted:This could be fun. For one of the horror challenges I watched Nocturne, a horror starring Sweeney that I've never seen anyone talk about, and she made for a good lead. I've always said she should be in more horror. Just has that vibe about her.
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Rageaholic posted:I'd rather watch Benedetta again Don't tell me you don't love her God Voice. There's a movie with some good horror elements...from a renowned Christological scholar at that!
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Watched the 1984 movie Disconnected and holy wow that soundtrack was awesome. That XTC song has been playing non-stop in my head since I watched it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Debr5KI1QIU as a stop-motion aficionado this is up my alley. in theaters in February and will be on Shudder in May
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One More Fat Nerd posted:a kiss accomplishes exactly the same thing thematically and isn't completely insane and gross! sounds like a strict downgrade to me seriously, all the bizarre, inimitable poo poo in king's writing is what makes him interesting. he's no prose stylist, his structures are famous for being meandering and having bad endings. but what he has as much as anyone ever has is an eye for the strangest things people do, and not just the scary ones
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ruddiger posted:Watched the 1984 movie Disconnected and holy wow that soundtrack was awesome. That XTC song has been playing non-stop in my head since I watched it. I originally gave disconnected 2.5/5 but it's stuck with me since I watched it back in 2018 and is a movie I always recommend when people ask for obscure 80s horror or what flicks to buy from vinegar syndrome. Its a weird little flick. I still think about the scene where it's just live music while the characters talk off screen, an obvious move to save money but somehow blends well with the film's vibe.
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A Fancy Hat posted:I had assumed the suspicious success was the influence of Pennywise, but I might be wrong. A sort of "please just go away and leave me alone" thing, hoping that they'd never have a reason to come back to Derry. The tradeoff being that they couldn't have kids of their own. The Turtle doesn't do anything except advise Bill briefly during the first Ritual of Chud. In fact he specifically states that he takes no part in these things, and It also believes he only watches. But the Turtle exists in the same place as the Deadlights and so It's presence makes it possible for people - particularly those connected to It - to develop some awareness of him. Which is why George was suddenly fascinated by the Turtle Wax, and why Bill developed writer's block when the Turtle died. The thing that bothered me most about It was that the Losers forgot again after they left Derry. It was supposed to be It that made them forget, but It was dead. Maybe it was unreliable narration and all along it was the third, unknown entity that congratulates Bill after he kills It, but either way it's a downer ending.
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Anyone seen a screening of The Seeding? I believe it's supposed to come out on VOD tomorrow, reviews are a little mixed but I liked the trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZTRkg3y5uc
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Crescent Wrench posted:This could be fun. For one of the horror challenges I watched Nocturne, a horror starring Sweeney that I've never seen anyone talk about, and she made for a good lead. Nocturne ruled and Sweeney rules This looks amazing and I feel like we’re gonna have a great religious horror year between this and The First Omen already. Both trailers knocked it out of the park, I’m all in 
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I mean, does The First Omen have the guts to actually make it a jackal like it states in the movie.
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That's the only thing I care about.
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DeimosRising posted:seriously, all the bizarre, inimitable poo poo in king's writing is what makes him interesting. he's no prose stylist, his structures are famous for being meandering and having bad endings. but what he has as much as anyone ever has is an eye for the strangest things people do, and not just the scary ones Definitely and half the poo poo that could be applied to King also could be said about a lot of beloved horror directors out there. Lars von Trier, Gaspar Noe, David Lynch, David Cronenberg, hell even Ari Aster has a bit of a screw loose between Beau is Afraid and The Strange Thing About the Johnsons. Being provocative comes in strange ways that can be alarming or disturbing. Also for as bad as King writes black people he writes everyone terribly from a realistic point of view. His characters always have odd dialogue or are way too cool or verbose. It's a stylistic choice that can feel good at the moment but on review kind of makes people cringe. I don't excuse his bad endings though. That's just a failure as a writer. He does it so consistently that he's the polar opposite of these drama horror writers. He thinks of the idea first, writes a ton of it, but has no plan on the ending and it shows. Way too much quantity over quality.
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If King can't wrap it up in time to be a short story, he starts another short story in the next chapter and repeats the process until he hits 600 pages.
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Basebf555 posted:Pretty sure the Turtle is a Guardian of the Beams and It is a creature from The Prim which means he's a servant of the Crimson King. The guardians aren't servants of the crimson king, they are servants of the beams and the tower. Uncle Boogeyman posted:he's actually Guardian of the Universe He's both. When Gan (the elephant guardian) birthed the world Maturin caught it on his back. So he's simultaneously holding up the entire universe in a metaphysical sense and also a giant cyborg turtle hanging out in one corner of one of the worlds in a physical sense.
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goferchan posted:Anyone seen a screening of The Seeding? I believe it's supposed to come out on VOD tomorrow, reviews are a little mixed but I liked the trailer. this looks like the Winnie the Pooh: Blood & Honey version of Minecraft, OP.
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There's some loving weird King apologism, what makes him great are his short stories and his love for Shirley Jackson...not the racist caricatures of black people, the children gangbang, or the black maid collecting his self-insert's cum. Hth. His erratic poo poo is his worst, it's not experimental or avant garde or interesting it's just weird boomer hangups that come from living in mostly 99% white communities. Lmao at comparing him to David Lynch and Gaspar Noe.
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what actually makes Stephen King great is his body of work as one of the greatest writers of the 20th century
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:what actually makes Stephen King great is his body of work as one of the greatest writers of the 20th century
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I guess if you're going by "Most adapted into movies or most culturally relevant in the last 50 years". I love the guy but calling him one of the greatest writers of the 20th century is insane when his idol SJ blows him out of the water. He's prolific and I love him but I could name 15 better 20th century writers just off the top of my head. you probably couldn't
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Punkin Spunkin posted:There's some loving weird King apologism, what makes him great are his short stories and his love for Shirley Jackson...not the racist caricatures of black people, the children gangbang, or the black maid collecting his self-insert's cum. Hth. His erratic poo poo is his worst, it's not experimental or avant garde or interesting it's just weird boomer hangups that come from living in mostly 99% white communities. Lmao at comparing him to David Lynch and Gaspar Noe. Who's apologizing for King? It's rationalization for why he acts the way he does. You're even saying what I typed up in a previous post about him being a stupid boomer. I was also saying that provocative stuff can be considered immorally bad or alarming, not that they're the same. Your reading comprehension sucks rear end.
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