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ChrisBTY posted:He bought a 4(?) million dollar house thinking he was untouchable in AEW only to get fired with cause. I cannot loving understand the mentality of spending that much on a house, but I also cannot understand why four million dollar houses are a thing. gently caress this planet.
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Also HHH is just as much part of the cult mentality. The way everyone calls him Papa H and even wrestlers have said they call him and Stephanie "Dad and Mom". Remember when he convinced the Good Brothers to stay with his "Those are some real beautiful children you got there, be a shame if they went hungry cause you went to that pissant t-shirt company and they went out of business" line and then turned around and laid them off like 3 months later. And then they went right back as soon as they were able to despite that.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:I'd say it's unlikely as most wrestlers for some reason still like Vince or fear he'll destroy their careers if they go public. But given the current makeup of TKO I'd say it's more likely than ever and given its a different corporate environment I could see someone sticking the knives into Vince to hide their own involvement
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It's just a lawsuit, they'll settle out of court
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Coaaab posted:if no one else wants to step up and this is the only formal complaint about vince's "proclivities", will this be a matter that'll likely be settled out of court? who does else tko need to answer to before trying to sweep this under the rug? It will almost certainly settle. I assume Vince will retain separate counsel from WWE since their interests are not necessarily aligned here. Every defendant will move to dismiss the complaint, which will be a tough motion to win because the Court will assume all of Grant's allegations are true and there are 300ish paragraphs of internally coherent/corroborating claims. Assuming at least Vince loses his MTD, the case will go to discovery and likely settle at some point prior to trial. Unless discovery shows that Grant is full of it (seems very, very, very unlikely), in which case I'm sure Vince would want to take it to trial. There might be some separate indemnification fight between Vince and TKO/WWE, too. Professor Funk fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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Cabbit posted:I cannot loving understand the mentality of spending that much on a house, but I also cannot understand why four million dollar houses are a thing. gently caress this planet. i can understand it. i want a house with a theater, bowling alley, full arcade, and billiard room. possibly a par three golf hole out back.
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punk could have always taken an easy large salary from tna or njpw. he chose wwe even after last years allegations were known.
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Same. And I want it in hollywood so I can chill with the dopest stars
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Cabbit posted:I cannot loving understand the mentality of spending that much on a house, but I also cannot understand why four million dollar houses are a thing. gently caress this planet. A regular 3 bedroom house out here is usually about 1.2
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Coaaab posted:if no one else wants to step up and this is the only formal complaint about vince's "proclivities", will this be a matter that'll likely be settled out of court? who does else tko need to answer to before trying to sweep this under the rug? It 100% will be settled out of court or if Vince wants to fight it all the way TKO will settle and let Vince fight it. TKO does have to answer to share holders and they don't like giving money out to settle cases like this so while TKO will try to sweep it under the rug I expect Shareholders will want somebody gone. That will probably be just Vince and they'll say everyone else not directly named is no longer with the company but I could also see TKO using this as an excuse to cut higher level WWE jobs to the bone as well just to reduce costs (and pay lip service to cleaning things up)
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How did Dave Meltzer not hear about any of this over the years?
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Lucifunk posted:How did Dave Meltzer not hear about any of this over the years? Reporting on something like this is very tricky and requires a lot of nuance, especially when you're an independant reporter who could be buried under mountains of libel suits even if what you are reporting is true and verifiable
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dave is some dude in san jose that spends his free time arguing with literal nobodies on twitter, this type of investigative journalism is way beyond his scope
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Okay, a dedicated thread has been made, with an excellently collected and laid out OP by MRT. There's nothing wrong with still discussing it in this thread, but I felt that a place with everything clearly available and used for discussion would overall be for the best, mostly so people aren't crawling through a 600 page thread full of conflicting info. Tread carefully, it's very  and  because of the depth and nature of the lawsuit and everything that is stated in it, to say nothing of the other incidents it covers.Big thanks to STONE COLD 64 and to MRT for their help during all of this.
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Drakkel posted:Reading back the quotes from the podcast he did with Cabana where they talked about how much fun it was to abuse female trainees, and the fact he was super buddy-buddy with Vince before the initial firing, and the fact Punk seems to love always hanging around the female talent in every locker room.
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STONE COLD 64 posted:A regular 3 bedroom house out here is usually about 1.2 See the back half of my post, re: "gently caress this planet".
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Lucifunk posted:How did Dave Meltzer not hear about any of this over the years? So he probably did and probably sent it up the chain because randos don’t gently caress with rich people as a general rule. I wrote a story I was handed that was wayyy above me, full of facts - I got one line wrong and the plaintiff pounced on that keeping me locked up in defamation lawsuits for 3 years. But first, they threatened to sue others who had written about them. Once I ran out of money and settled, he went after the bigger fish who wrote about him and is basically scrubbing the negative stories about him from the internet. This happens more than you’d think and scares tons of people away.
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Everyone who is canceling a rumble party, don’t - instead pivot and convince your friends to watch a classic WCW ppv such as Halloween Havoc 97. Of course you could also watch AEW, it’s your party, have fun with it Dr. Zoggle fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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Dr. Zoggle posted:Everyone who is canceling a rumble party, don’t - instead pivot and convince your friends to watch a classic WCW ppv such as Halloween Havoic 97. Collision has AmDrag/Nagata and a crazy elimination tag cage match. That sounds like a cool party of hoots and hollars
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If I had a rumble watch party planned I'd just pay  for a NJPW world sub and turn it into a Wrestle Kingdom party. Dean Ambrose! Daniel Bryan! Hottest free agent Kazuchika Okada!
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Whether you watch AEW Collision, a classic WCW show, some NJPW, DDT, TJPW, maybe even a classic TNA Lockdown (all free on YouTube!) or a NewLegacyInc stream, there's all kinds of great ways to enjoy good food and fun wrestling. Maybe you'll get your friends into something new and cool.
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:Collision has AmDrag/Nagata and a crazy elimination tag cage match. That sounds like a cool party of hoots and hollars This is a good idea as well. Everyone should try not to ruin a get together because of these awful things. Instead, say gently caress Vince McMahon and celebrate wrestling with an alternate product.
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Dr. Zoggle posted:Of course you could also watch AEW, it’s your party, have fun with it all out 2023 was loving Awesome
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Lucifunk posted:How did Dave Meltzer not hear about any of this over the years? Meltzer isn’t a real journalist. He’s a decent obituary guy and a critic.
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There is so much good wrestling out there. Like, thirteen different promotions had matches that made it onto J-Ru's 2023 list. And twelve of those promotions are run by people who are not currently strongly suspected of being rapists! There is sincerely so much good wrestling out there that you could watch two shows a night every night and still not see all of it.
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Please consider a classic PWG show . They are hoots
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Lamuella posted:There is so much good wrestling out there. Like, thirteen different promotions had matches that made it onto J-Ru's 2023 list. And twelve of those promotions are run by people who are not currently strongly suspected of being rapists! There is sincerely so much good wrestling out there that you could watch two shows a night every night and still not see all of it. Is there an easy way I can watch these thirteen different promotions from my couch on my Roku without paying like $70 a month for a live television service like Hulu Live TV or SlingTV or whatever edit -- I'm not being snarky this is legit something I want to do Count Thrashula fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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Eat My Fuc posted:i assume there will be no rumble thread? I'd love to see someone try
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Count Thrashula posted:Is there an easy way I can watch these thirteen different promotions from my couch on my Roku without paying like $70 a month for a live television service like Hulu Live TV or SlingTV or whatever Do you actually want us to give you this information, or are you just gonna watch wwe anyway Cuz we can lay it out for you but we cannot make you stop watching the bad show
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rotinaj posted:Do you actually want us to give you this information, or are you just gonna watch wwe anyway Yeah I just realized my message came across sarcastic, but right now I only watch WWE cause it's easy (RAW is on Hulu and papes are on Peacock)
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TV Zombie posted:Please consider a classic PWG show . They are hoots I’d like to recommend All Star Weekend 8, the show that hooked me into PWG. Night one has a crazy tag match between Steen/Tozawa and Generico/Ricochet.
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Eat My Fuc posted:i assume there will be no rumble thread? I think it would be a pretty bad idea.
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Count Thrashula posted:Yeah I just realized my message came across sarcastic, but right now I only watch WWE cause it's easy (RAW is on Hulu and papes are on Peacock) Your post was fine, I wouldn’t take it personally.
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:Okay, a dedicated thread has been made, with an excellently collected and laid out OP by MRT. There's nothing wrong with still discussing it in this thread, but I felt that a place with everything clearly available and used for discussion would overall be for the best, mostly so people aren't crawling through a 600 page thread full of conflicting info. Tread carefully, it's very thank you. now  this thread because this dogshit company doesnt deserve it
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Pillowpants posted:I got one line wrong and the plaintiff pounced on that keeping me locked up in defamation lawsuits for 3 years. I'm curious what industry this person is in because I feel like I've read this story before involving locally-grown wealthy curmudgeons. We had a billionaire bankrupt a journalist in legal bills for calling him short. A guy who gets rich taking the short position on companies and then funding fear research involving them has done that sort of thing, too.
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Count Thrashula posted:Is there an easy way I can watch these thirteen different promotions from my couch on my Roku without paying like $70 a month for a live television service like Hulu Live TV or SlingTV or whatever Off the top of my head, ROH is on Roku through Honor Club, tons of classic and new shows for about ten bucks. If you get a Chromecast With Google TV, Wrestle Universe is around $10 as well (it's in yen) and you get four good-to-great federations putting out shows every month (DDT, TJPW, NOAH, and Ganbare Pro). AEW is available on Fite TV if you sign up for AEW+ through a VPN. Using a modern Chromecast/Google TV it's also very easy. And there's even tons of fantastic stuff on YouTube - TNA is available on YouTube for a dollar or two a month and has tons of classic shows available on their YT channel for free, and if you don't want to pay there are a lot of independent federations, classic NWA and All Japan, and more all easily searchable. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Lots of easy ways to watch great wrestling!
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