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The modern popularity of big comic book movie series hit right as HH was starting or right after. iron man 1 was 2008 . Avengers was 2012 . Guardians was 2014. Guardians was even based on Abnetts work. I think he got a movie credit Anyway i think that showed BL writers that there was an appetite for huge overwrought comic book epics
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I read the Bequin books yesterday, and, uh, wow they really escalate in terms of scale and scope, huh? Don't see how he can possibly stick the landing on that one but I'm looking forward to him trying!
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Jan 29, 2024 14:38
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lines posted:I read the Bequin books yesterday, and, uh, wow they really escalate in terms of scale and scope, huh? Don't see how he can possibly stick the landing on that one but I'm looking forward to him trying! Its just the 2 of them out right now yes? I just finished Penitent yesterday as well, and wondering when this 3rd one is going to see the light of day and wrap things up.
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nesbit37 posted:Its just the 2 of them out right now yes? I just finished Penitent yesterday as well, and wondering when this 3rd one is going to see the light of day and wrap things up. Yep. I've bought the Eisenhorn and Ravenor omnibuses to tide me over in the meantime as it's been years since I read them, but it's going to be very interesting.
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nesbit37 posted:Its just the 2 of them out right now yes? I just finished Penitent yesterday as well, and wondering when this 3rd one is going to see the light of day and wrap things up. In his afterword Dan stated that it took almost exactly two years two write the End and the Death, and, if pushed, he could have knocked out four regular novels in that time. The afterword was dated to January 2021, so he might have made a lot of progress towards whatever's next for him already. Also, everyone check out Dan Abnett's bibliography from 2000 to somewhere like 2006. The man's level of productivity is frankly insane, especially considering how he lost the original manuscript of Honour Guard and had to rewrite the whole loving thing from memory.
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Jan 29, 2024 15:10
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Warden posted:The man's level of productivity is frankly insane, especially considering how he lost the original manuscript of Honour Guard and had to rewrite the whole loving thing from memory. That’s insane, but I bet the text that went to print was a better version than the original, just by the nature of writing.
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Jan 29, 2024 15:53
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Also probably worth mentioning that Dan Abnett nearly died a few years back. He was writing Prospero Burns at the time
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Jan 29, 2024 18:13
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serious gaylord posted:Also probably worth mentioning that Dan Abnett nearly died a few years back. He was writing Prospero Burns at the time Yeah, he had adult onset epilepsy or something. After that GW did a bit of mismanagement with Black Library, and Dan parted ways with them for a few years. Blue Raider posted:That’s insane, but I bet the text that went to print was a better version than the original, just by the nature of writing. Well, by his own admission Lijah Cuu did not exist in the original version at all.
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Jan 29, 2024 18:20
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Chaos Gods stole it to make sure Colm Corbec died.
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Jan 29, 2024 19:03
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Finished The End and the Death 3 last night. My favourite bit was the Yu-Gi-Oh intermission in the Horus vs Emperor showdown, also Garviel Loken died for our sins.
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Jan 29, 2024 19:48
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Emzedoh posted:Finished The End and the Death 3 last night. My favourite bit was the Yu-Gi-Oh intermission in the Horus vs Emperor showdown, also Garviel Loken died for our sins. Literally a bit from TTS Emperor the absolute balls of Abnett for putting that in.
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Jan 29, 2024 19:51
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serious gaylord posted:Also probably worth mentioning that Dan Abnett nearly died a few years back. He was writing Prospero Burns at the time The wet leopards come for us all, in the end 
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Jan 29, 2024 19:56
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Arc Hammer posted:Literally a bit from TTS Emperor the absolute balls of Abnett for putting that in. .... still missed the opportunity for custodes to be just OTT fabulous.
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Jan 29, 2024 19:58
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Got part 3 yesterday and just got to the bit when they meet, absolutely loving it
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Emzedoh posted:Finished The End and the Death 3 last night. My favourite bit was the Yu-Gi-Oh intermission in the Horus vs Emperor showdown, also Garviel Loken died for our sins. Oh my god.
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Looking forward to all the terrible content farm 40k lore videos trying to explain the Yu-Gi-Oh Duel in a way that sounds cool. (It is cool! Because of Abnett's prose!)
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Jan 29, 2024 21:45
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That part was dumb as gently caress.
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Jan 29, 2024 21:50
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It owned, especially when all of Horus' cards were just "Oops, All Daemons!"
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Ahriman getting slowly but steadily more annoyed at his draws while Sindermann asks increasingly banal questions.
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[mysterious old space marine flips tarot card revealing a dude who looks exactly like me being consumed eternally by a billion howling daemons] Me: is that good
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Kylaer posted:It owned, especially when all of Horus' cards were just "Oops, All Daemons!" Ok that part was good. I'm pretty sure if you look back, the order of revelations parallels the events of the EatD books.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:[mysterious old space marine flips tarot card revealing a dude who looks exactly like me being consumed eternally by a billion howling daemons] Don’t worry it’s all metaphorical and surely isn’t literal at all. Surely. e: where you’re going there is no distinction between the former and the latter
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LashLightning posted:Haven't read any of it, but surely it's within the power of all the Chaos gods working together that they can stamp on one guy and make it stick, even if it's the Emperor? Presumably that's what Horus would think if he knows about the Perpetual-ism of the Emperor. I thought there was something about Horus having a knife made from like, sand fused into glass by force lightning that stripped away Space Dads immortality.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:[mysterious old space marine flips tarot card revealing a dude who looks exactly like me being consumed eternally by a billion howling daemons] 
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:[mysterious old space marine flips tarot card revealing a dude who looks exactly like me being consumed eternally by a billion howling daemons] MariusLecter posted:Don’t worry it’s all metaphorical and surely isn’t literal at all. Right after this, the fortune teller turns over another card revealing the Kitten with String arcana, screams and jumps out the window.
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moths posted:EatD hell yeah, so it WAS an extended homosexual allegory all along this was the best possible outcome poop chute posted:I thought there was something about Horus having a knife made from like, sand fused into glass by force lightning that stripped away Space Dads immortality. The Athames themselves probably could use their own character timeline trackers; like the Perpetuals, they sure proliferated during this entire two decade long narrative spree. Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Jan 30, 2024 |
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Potato Salad posted:hell yeah, so it WAS an extended homosexual allegory all along The weird thing is that the one that kills Horus isn't even one of the ones Erebus made.
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I liked the scene of big E becoming a big black orb in his transcendence to godhood amidst the city of dust so I attempted to make a few AI generated images of it. (TEATD 2) 
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Mikojan posted:I liked the scene of big E becoming a big black orb in his transcendence to godhood amidst the city of dust so I attempted to make a few AI generated images of it. (TEATD 2) I am not really an AI art fan in general but I have to admit these have come out quite nice.
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Echoing the thoughts that the book was a bit bloated, I felt like vol 1. was the right kind of ott, but 2 and 3 had some repetition that could have been cut (3 is better than 2 though).
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Mikojan posted:I liked the scene of big E becoming a big black orb in his transcendence to godhood amidst the city of dust so I attempted to make a few AI generated images of it. (TEATD 2)  P obvious where the AI ripped off its source material for this
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Echoing the thoughts that the book was a bit bloated, I felt like vol 1. was the right kind of ott, but 2 and 3 had some repetition that could have been cut (3 is better than 2 though). The afterword is an interesting read, especially as Abnett seems to say that he wrote it as one continuous book before then splitting it into three, which makes it harder to understand how it got so bloated vs if he wrote it as three separate books from the start.
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kim jong-illin posted:The afterword is an interesting read, especially as Abnett seems to say that he wrote it as one continuous book before then splitting it into three, which makes it harder to understand how it got so bloated vs if he wrote it as three separate books from the start. In some ways for me it makes it easier, because at the end of 3 I think all the plot threads come together? So I can see why he felt he needed them all.
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kim jong-illin posted:The afterword is an interesting read, especially as Abnett seems to say that he wrote it as one continuous book before then splitting it into three, which makes it harder to understand how it got so bloated vs if he wrote it as three separate books from the start. if you let them, fantasy and sci-fi authors will write absolute doorstops, and it's the job of an editor to reign this impulse in. it's when they're not inclined to do this for whatever reason that books dip in quality. I still really enjoyed tEatD, but I think it would have been better served as a more tightly edited two books rather than a sprawling three. Gravitas Shortfall fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Jan 30, 2024 |
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:if you let them, fantasy and sci-fi authors will write absolute doorstops. it's the job of an editor to reign this impulse in. it's when they're not inclined to do this for whatever reason that books dip in quality. I still really enjoyed tEatD, but I think it would have been better served as a more tightly edited two books rather than a sprawling three. I see where you're coming from, but I wanted the sprawl. The grandiose tragedy of it all should be explored in every facet.
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On the last bit of duel, spoilers for the ending. When the Emperor says "I wait for you and forgive you" what is Abnett signifying here? Are they scrapping the soul obliteration and possibly bringing him back in the new timeline? It seems very significant that despite having jettisoned his emotional core, the Emperor still hesitates to kill his son.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:if you let them, fantasy and sci-fi authors will write absolute doorstops, and it's the job of an editor to reign this impulse in. it's when they're not inclined to do this for whatever reason that books dip in quality. I still really enjoyed tEatD, but I think it would have been better served as a more tightly edited two books rather than a sprawling three. Abnett has whipped his editors into submission, probably with a huge thesaurus. They let him run wild in this series and it shows, for the good and bad.
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I like the sprawl in this particular instance, Abnett deserved the chance to go hog wild. Two axe-shaped tears ran down his cheeks. In the end (and the death), he loved Fafnir Rann.
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