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Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




A Sneaker Broker posted:

War, Drama, Action, epicness.

Exordia.

It's a lot of things, and very good, but a solid chunk of it is nerding out about modern (and invented alien) military hardware and combat.

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ringu0
Feb 24, 2013


A Sneaker Broker posted:

War, Drama, Action, epicness.

Adrian Tchaikovsky's The Final Architecture trilogy

GhastlyBizness
Sep 10, 2016

seashells by the sea shorpheus

The Clap posted:

I guess here's where I ask for recommendations along the same vein even though nothing will probably hit quite like Between Two Fires did haha.

Kate Heartfield’s Armed in Her Fashion is quite similar in its Boschian influences and whole “devils invade 14th c. Europe” setting. Possibly also Brian Catling’s Hollow, though I haven’t read it.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Injera posted:

I am sad I couldn't find these volumes, I tried! I ended up going with the one below which I do absolutely adore. I usually go ebook as I've moved across the ocean and various other places since, so lugging around a library is kinda expensive... But having this around has made me laugh many times when I see it. Exordia has taken priority for now, but I think chanur is next.

Magnificent indeed :lovebird:

Be warned! I owned this very volume many years ago. The story is classic and the Micael Whelan cover art is great, but...

There are five novels in the Chanur series. The first and fifth are basically standalone stories; #2 through #4 form a trilogy.

This "omnibus" volume collects books 1 through 3. So, the initial standalone, and 2/3 of the next story. Go figure.

Yeah, so you're either going to want to track down a singleton edition of "Chanur's Homecoming" (book 4), or whatever the other omnibus was called that collected both #4 and #5.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

The Clap posted:

Just finished Between Two Fires last night... I don't have much to say about it that hasn't already been said in this thread other than that I found it very moving. The concept itself was very appealing to me from the jump so I knew I'd like it but I couldn't really prepare myself for how much I'd love it.

I guess here's where I ask for recommendations along the same vein even though nothing will probably hit quite like Between Two Fires did haha.

It doesn't have the same father-and-daughter heart, more of a "god I am hosed up!!!" heart, but ASH A SECRET HISTORY is full of weird cosmic horror stuff in a well researched feudal Europe. CW for sexual assault.

The Clap
Sep 21, 2006

currently training to kill God

General Battuta posted:

It doesn't have the same father-and-daughter heart, more of a "god I am hosed up!!!" heart, but ASH A SECRET HISTORY is full of weird cosmic horror stuff in a well researched feudal Europe. CW for sexual assault.

The cosmic horror elements are very much what I was drawn to in Between Two Fires so this sounds perfect.

GhastlyBizness posted:

Kate Heartfield’s Armed in Her Fashion is quite similar in its Boschian influences and whole “devils invade 14th c. Europe” setting. Possibly also Brian Catling’s Hollow, though I haven’t read it.

And queuing this one up as well for the same reason.

Thanks very much y'all, always appreciate the stellar recommendations you're able to come up with.

A Sneaker Broker
Feb 14, 2020

Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot
Finished Ready Player One. I made the mistake of also buying Ready Player Two. The book did in fact, almost kill my will to read.

DurianGray
Dec 23, 2010

King of Fruits

A Sneaker Broker posted:

Finished Ready Player One. I made the mistake of also buying Ready Player Two. The book did in fact, almost kill my will to read.

At least almost everything else is going to be better in comparison to those!

A Sneaker Broker
Feb 14, 2020

Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot

DurianGray posted:

At least almost everything else is going to be better in comparison to those!

Yeah, I'm thrilled I have some books on the way.

Sidenote: What makes Barnes & Noble so cocky that they can charge double, if not triple, a book's price compared to BAM or Amazon?

CaptainRat
Apr 18, 2003

It seems the secret to your success is a combination of boundless energy and enthusiastic insolence...
They don't have Amazon's massive supply chain advantage or pull with publishers.

buffalo all day
Mar 13, 2019

the misadventures of this indistinguishable band of urchins just keeps on going, huh. I’m a third of the way through the drat book, can we get back to the interesting stuff

fake edit: I’m talking about Nona the ninth

Jimbozig
Sep 30, 2003

I like sharing and ice cream and animals.

buffalo all day posted:

the misadventures of this indistinguishable band of urchins just keeps on going, huh. I’m a third of the way through the drat book, can we get back to the interesting stuff

fake edit: I’m talking about Nona the ninth

It does get better soon. But yeah, that part could have done with some punching up.

Speaking of parts of books that could have done with punching up, the first 125 pages of Perhaps the Stars...

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




buffalo all day posted:

the misadventures of this indistinguishable band of urchins just keeps on going, huh. I’m a third of the way through the drat book, can we get back to the interesting stuff

fake edit: I’m talking about Nona the ninth

This part is a lot more fun on the second read when you have an idea of what's actually going on.

But the book definitely does pick up soon!

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




General Battuta posted:

It doesn't have the same father-and-daughter heart, more of a "god I am hosed up!!!" heart, but ASH A SECRET HISTORY is full of weird cosmic horror stuff in a well researched feudal Europe. CW for sexual assault.

That's is indeed a great book, but some dark poo poo goes on, often to the main character.

FPyat
Jan 17, 2020

The Clap posted:


I guess here's where I ask for recommendations along the same vein even though nothing will probably hit quite like Between Two Fires did haha.

Take a look at Jesse Bullington’s books.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

Jimbozig posted:

Speaking of parts of books that could have done with punching up, the first 125 pages of Perhaps the Stars...

Yeah...yeah. The book does improve markedly once it gets past that part but, man.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


The Clap posted:

Just finished Between Two Fires last night... I don't have much to say about it that hasn't already been said in this thread other than that I found it very moving. The concept itself was very appealing to me from the jump so I knew I'd like it but I couldn't really prepare myself for how much I'd love it.

I guess here's where I ask for recommendations along the same vein even though nothing will probably hit quite like Between Two Fires did haha.

The manga Berserk, specifically the Golden Age arc which is volumes 3-14. Thats the story arc that keep getting adapted both in the 1997 anime and the movies and the recently released Memorial Edition tv series that recuts and improves upon the movies.

An added bonus for me to reading Between Two Fires is it has so many elements from Berserk in it but contained in one book. Badass knight ferrying a defenseless yet mystical individual across an unforgiving landscape, brutal and unnerving fights with demons, former comrades who are now enemies, ravaging plagues, literal depictions of hell. And just a very very very similar tone. But where the golden age arc of Berserk is excellent and can be a stand alone tragedy in itself, it also connects to a much larger story that was cut short when the creator died last year. A friend of his and his former assistants are continuing the story based on his outline but it won't be the same. However its so similar to Between Two Fires that I would wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone looking for more of that vibe, plus you get to experience some of the greatest artwork ever in comics.

Like this scene of Thomas vs that lion demon is basically this panel from Berserk

Ccs fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Feb 1, 2024

Injera
Jul 4, 2005


Groke posted:

Be warned! I owned this very volume many years ago. The story is classic and the Micael Whelan cover art is great, but...

There are five novels in the Chanur series. The first and fifth are basically standalone stories; #2 through #4 form a trilogy.

This "omnibus" volume collects books 1 through 3. So, the initial standalone, and 2/3 of the next story. Go figure.

Yeah, so you're either going to want to track down a singleton edition of "Chanur's Homecoming" (book 4), or whatever the other omnibus was called that collected both #4 and #5.

Ahh! That's great to know before I get to the end of the book and then scramble to find the next one, thanks. :cheersbird: Off to see if any have good covers too :3:

Major Ryan
May 11, 2008

Completely blank

StrixNebulosa posted:

man, I have bounced off of that book like three different times. It starts good, the writing is really excellent, then we slam directly into our protagonist hanging out with the least trustworthy guys of all time and I just can't proceed.

I should pick it back up, but phooo.

I've just finished the first half / The Shadow of the Torturer and there's no way I'm carrying on past that.

It's slow, meandering, doesn't really go anywhere at any point. Most of the characters are hateful, especially the main character Severian. I pretty much forced myself to finish the first book only to find that... nothing really happens at the end anyway.

So, nope - onwards to something else for me.

orange sky
May 7, 2007

A Sneaker Broker posted:

War, Drama, Action, epicness.

The Vorkosigan Saga might be right up your alley. Very well written and full of page turners.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Major Ryan posted:

I've just finished the first half / The Shadow of the Torturer and there's no way I'm carrying on past that.

It's slow, meandering, doesn't really go anywhere at any point. Most of the characters are hateful, especially the main character Severian. I pretty much forced myself to finish the first book only to find that... nothing really happens at the end anyway.

So, nope - onwards to something else for me.

I found SotT felt like playing a tabletop roleplaying session with a DM who didn't have a set story / plan and was just winging it. I liked the writing well enough, very much a 'Vance Dying Earth but make it Grimmer' for me. I mean, Cugel was no angel either, but the humour at least was more overt in JV's books.

GladRagKraken
Mar 27, 2010

NoneMoreNegative posted:

I found SotT felt like playing a tabletop roleplaying session with a DM who didn't have a set story / plan and was just winging it. I liked the writing well enough, very much a 'Vance Dying Earth but make it Grimmer' for me. I mean, Cugel was no angel either, but the humour at least was more overt in JV's books.

I regret to inform you that it's even worse than you expect. Story structure that mimics a SotT or JV style picaresque is very much the design goal for a whole bunch of OSR tabletop games.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

A Sneaker Broker posted:

Finished Ready Player One. I made the mistake of also buying Ready Player Two. The book did in fact, almost kill my will to read.

I'm sorry, I tried to warn you.

mystes
May 31, 2006

A Sneaker Broker posted:

Finished Ready Player One. I made the mistake of also buying Ready Player Two. The book did in fact, almost kill my will to read.
The only good thing about having read ready player one is that you can now be entertained by the following two youtube videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWPMJwHrWFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMBylNJQEbg

A Sneaker Broker
Feb 14, 2020

Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot

Yngwie Mangosteen posted:

I'm sorry, I tried to warn you.

4 pages into The Way of Kings and it blows RDP out of the water.

mystes posted:

The only good thing about having read ready player one is that you can now be entertained by the following two youtube videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWPMJwHrWFU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMBylNJQEbg

:lol:

GhastlyBizness
Sep 10, 2016

seashells by the sea shorpheus

Demi is so great. I think this is about as mean as he gets.

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran

Ccs posted:

The manga Berserk, specifically the Golden Age arc which is volumes 3-14. Thats the story arc that keep getting adapted both in the 1997 anime and the movies and the recently released Memorial Edition tv series that recuts and improves upon the movies.

An added bonus for me to reading Between Two Fires is it has so many elements from Berserk in it but contained in one book. Badass knight ferrying a defenseless yet mystical individual across an unforgiving landscape, brutal and unnerving fights with demons, former comrades who are now enemies, ravaging plagues, literal depictions of hell. And just a very very very similar tone. But where the golden age arc of Berserk is excellent and can be a stand alone tragedy in itself, it also connects to a much larger story that was cut short when the creator died last year. A friend of his and his former assistants are continuing the story based on his outline but it won't be the same. However its so similar to Between Two Fires that I would wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone looking for more of that vibe, plus you get to experience some of the greatest artwork ever in comics.

Like this scene of Thomas vs that lion demon is basically this panel from Berserk


I did this same Between Two Fires --> Berserk transition, and while the comparison is accurate... Man. Man. That one of the most hosed-up things I've ever read. I got vivid, intrusive flashbacks to some of that imagery for several days after reading it. Absolute nightmare fuel. I can't in good conscience actually recommend people read Berserk, even if it is a masterpiece of horror, because it is just so profoundly awful on so many levels. But if you've got a taste for deeply grotesque and disturbing horror with every possible content warning, plus an unbelievably obnoxious cartoony sidekick for some loving reason, then yeah, Berserk is a natural follow-up to Between Two Fires.

All that said, strongly seconding Ash: A Secret History for people who want something that feels sort of like BTF.

Polikarpov
Jun 1, 2013

Keep it between the buoys
I finished Exordia. What an incredible escalation of violence. I don't think I've ever read an alien invasion or military sci-fi novel that went this hard.

...I'm going to go immanentize my eschaton now.

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





TRP Post of the Month October 2021

A Sneaker Broker posted:

4 pages into The Way of Kings and it blows RDP out of the water.

:lol:

Are you just starting on the Cosmere? If so you are welcome to the Sanderson thread, we're very good about spoilers and love first time readers

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3334571&pagenumber=1

A Sneaker Broker
Feb 14, 2020

Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot

pik_d posted:

Are you just starting on the Cosmere? If so you are welcome to the Sanderson thread, we're very good about spoilers and love first time readers

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3334571&pagenumber=1

Bookmarked. Thank you!

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Mar 31, 2009

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silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




wait wait wait, someone *else* put traitor and tyrant into separate book titles in the same series? How dare they!

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

A Sneaker Broker posted:

4 pages into The Way of Kings and it blows RDP out of the water.


hell yeah, a lot of goons (and other regular nerds) think sanderson is incredibly mid-tier too, so there's a long way up to go in terms of really cool sf/f stuff depending on what you end up liking. And the Cosmere thread mentioned is cool and good.

branedotorg
Jun 19, 2009

silvergoose posted:

wait wait wait, someone *else* put traitor and tyrant into separate book titles in the same series? How dare they publish them one year before!

Thranguy
Apr 21, 2010


Deceitful and black-hearted, perhaps we are. But we would never go against the Code. Well, perhaps for good reasons. But mostly never.

silvergoose posted:

wait wait wait, someone *else* put traitor and tyrant into separate book titles in the same series? How dare they!

I'm glad I'm not the only.one to read "The Traitor Anthony Ryan" as the full title.

Although honestly this makes the UK retitiling thing make even less sense.

Awkward Davies
Sep 3, 2009
Grimey Drawer

A Sneaker Broker posted:

Yeah, I'm thrilled I have some books on the way.

Sidenote: What makes Barnes & Noble so cocky that they can charge double, if not triple, a book's price compared to BAM or Amazon?

Skimmed the last few pages so maybe someone else said this, but good lord, get a library card. Shits free. And through Libby you can get ebooks.

Unrelated book chat: I took a book recommendation from Emily Axford and started The Blacktongue Thief and I’m really enjoying it. It’s funny, I haven’t been vibing with fantasy for a while now but this is really doing it for me.

A Sneaker Broker
Feb 14, 2020

Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot

Awkward Davies posted:

Skimmed the last few pages so maybe someone else said this, but good lord, get a library card. Shits free. And through Libby you can get ebooks.

Unrelated book chat: I took a book recommendation from Emily Axford and started The Blacktongue Thief and I’m really enjoying it. It’s funny, I haven’t been vibing with fantasy for a while now but this is really doing it for me.

The Hawaii Public Library system is extremely depressing, and one of my 2024 resolutions was to get back to reading, so I might as well start building my collection of books.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

A Sneaker Broker posted:

The Hawaii Public Library system is extremely depressing, and one of my 2024 resolutions was to get back to reading, so I might as well start building my collection of books.

https://hawaii.overdrive.com/

You can check books out and read them on your phone. Definitely do what you want, but ebooks have massively changed the nature of libraries. When I worked in one, it was one of the main ways we checked out material.

A Sneaker Broker
Feb 14, 2020

Daily Dose of Internet Brain Rot

Yngwie Mangosteen posted:

https://hawaii.overdrive.com/

You can check books out and read them on your phone. Definitely do what you want, but ebooks have massively changed the nature of libraries. When I worked in one, it was one of the main ways we checked out material.

https://hawaii.overdrive.com/media/515229

"Wait time: About 11 weeks"

:lol:

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Major Ryan
May 11, 2008

Completely blank

NoneMoreNegative posted:

I found SotT felt like playing a tabletop roleplaying session with a DM who didn't have a set story / plan and was just winging it. I liked the writing well enough, very much a 'Vance Dying Earth but make it Grimmer' for me. I mean, Cugel was no angel either, but the humour at least was more overt in JV's books.

That feels like a good comp, yes - it felt like each chapter was written independently from the last. Obviously that's unfair and there is an overall plot, but with short chapters that basically all end and then... nothing seems to get time to breath before you're off into the next, potentially entirely different thing. And yet even with that flipping, it feels so slow to actually get anywhere!

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