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yea ok posted:According to one main roster star, nobody has talked to them about the situation from management, other than to tell them that Vince won’t be back. Instead they were told how successful the Royal Rumble was and how big the new Netflix deal is. “Vince is gone, all the problems are solved. We had a great show beloved by all. Also we are making a ton of money from the Netflix deal, which will make a ton of money for executives and investors, and isn’t that what’s really important?”
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The fedbrains are really going all-in on the idea that the rot stopped at Vince and Laurinitis, and that Triple H is just some smol bean who was completely unaware of what was going on and that both Unnamed-Wrestler-Who-Is-Probably-Mox-or-Jericho and Meltzer are just grinding axes by pointing out the obvious conclusion that HHH, if not Corporate Officer #1, was almost certainly aware of what was going on. After all, it’s not as if Vince was really secretive of the fact he was a serial predator. The amount of “hiding in plain sight” promos and vignettes over the years put the likes of Jimmy Savile to shame.
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Not new news but analysis backing up a core argument of the lawsuit: https://twitter.com/timmarchman/status/1753456402960416779 quote:Carrie Goldberg, a lawyer who represented victims of Harvey Weinstein, called the document “poorly drafted.” (Weinstein used NDAs to silence some of his victims for at least two decades, and hid some of the payments he made to women by having them come from his brother’s bank account.) quote:Goldberg noted other issues with the NDA, among them that the copy Grant filed in federal court in Connecticut wasn’t actually signed by McMahon in either his personal capacity or role as then-chair of WWE; normally, all parties would receive an executed copy of the contract. According to a source familiar with the matter, though, the contract was in fact executed, with McMahon secretly signing on both his behalf and that of WWE after seeking counsel from his longtime attorney, Jerry McDevitt, a seeming conflict of interest Goldberg called “bizarre.” MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Feb 2, 2024 |
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TinTower posted:The fedbrains are really going all-in on the idea that the rot stopped at Vince and Laurinitis, and that Triple H is just some smol bean who was completely unaware of what was going on and that both Unnamed-Wrestler-Who-Is-Probably-Mox-or-Jericho and Meltzer are just grinding axes by pointing out the obvious conclusion that HHH, if not Corporate Officer #1, was almost certainly aware of what was going on. Cool so its exactly like Sandusky and Penn State.
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# ? Feb 2, 2024 18:11 |
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quote:Fightful has spoken with a number of people within the industry, at least one of which claims they know more people involved. They've been contacted by reporters, attorneys and the like already, and have indicated that if the additional names involved aren't identified, they'll do it themselves.
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# ? Feb 2, 2024 18:20 |
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There are mainstream media outlets taking the kind of tips seriously that you would never expect even 2 weeks ago. I was pleasantly surprised to hear how deeply certain things are being investigated.
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THIS. IS. A. MOMENT! 🔥 🔥 🔥 absolutely amazed things could actually Matter
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# ? Feb 2, 2024 18:26 |
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WWE's lifetime policy of "just pretend it didn't happen and look over there!" seems like it might not actually work for once if this gets big enough.
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https://www.patreon.com/posts/97721626 Free Story: More Details Behind Vince McMahon, John Laurinaitis quote:The Vince McMahon, John Laurinaitis situations are not going away any time soon.
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https://twitter.com/wiretaup/status/1753473690447069221
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Dawgstar posted:Lawler apparently copied a lot from Shane, as is only right and proper in wrestling. Did Bobby Shane also sexually assault two kids in his hotel room and get out of statutory rape and sodomy charges by taking a plea deal on a definitely totally not related harassing a witness charge?
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# ? Feb 2, 2024 19:05 |
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Why is "smol bean" being used so much? Is it a reddit thing?
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HamburgerTownUSA posted:Did Bobby Shane also sexually assault two kids in his hotel room and get out of statutory rape and sodomy charges by taking a plea deal on a definitely totally not related harassing a witness charge? No, Lawler added his own spin on things.
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Dango Bango posted:Why is "smol bean" being used so much? Is it a reddit thing? It’s more a tumblr aphorism. Both I and the tweeter in question are using it in the sarcastic way that it’s evolved into (as in, attacking the idea that Triple H has a childlike innocence so you better not make any simple observations about his likely involvement in any sexual misconduct cases.)
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yea ok posted:https://www.patreon.com/posts/97721626 SRS answering Super Chats from the NYT on how to navigate the wrestling landscape.
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Dango Bango posted:Why is "smol bean" being used so much? Is it a reddit thing? feels like a 'people still using twitter' thing
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1glitch0 posted:SRS answering Super Chats from the NYT on how to navigate the wrestling landscape. "Everyone is awful, so you'll have to circle back to those crimes that after doing Vince"
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Shrimpy posted:"Everyone is awful, so you'll have to circle back to those crimes that after doing Vince" "Also, NYT, let me explain to you the difference between a worked plane ticket and a shoot plane ticket. It's more complicated than you might think!"
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That DICK! posted:it was war. and war is raw Well, the first hour is.
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1glitch0 posted:SRS answering Super Chats from the NYT on how to navigate the wrestling landscape. He is by far the most qualified person for a journalist to go to about the current WWE locker room.
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This is a different allegation that is more company related than Vince but I think it belongs here more than the WWE or Podcast thread. https://twitter.com/isobelvthompson/status/1701141626645516637 This is an Audible original podcast so it requires a membership or trial and as I said in the podcast thread a few days ago I'd heard nothing about it before. Like a lot of professional podcasts (vs everyone's favorite dude's chattin' podcasts) it is very highly produced and follows that podcast documentary formula. The first three episodes are fairly redundant for wrestling fans. There's interesting details of how she got into the business, some entertaining Long Island characters, but mostly it's a journalist who is not a wrestling fan trying to explain wrestling, getting some things wrong and being shocked by the Diva Search, and rightly so. The biggest detail early is NYWC confirming Ashley's claim that Stephanie interceded and prevented her from getting proper training. Episode 4 is about her account of being raped during a Middle East trip. I won't go into details but the key to this with regard to WWE is Ashley is eventually told by Vince that she can't talk about it or she will jeopardize their relationship with the military. The podcast does a very good job explaining why a survivor's account might have inconsistencies and then sets out to try to corroborate it. Ashley's cousin and best friend both confirm that Ashley discussed it to some extent with them at the time. She then talks to Dr. Rios who worked there at the time and Ashley mentions. He confirms she discussed it with him but doesn't remember details of the conversation. Most shocking he shares that he heard wrestlers gossiping about it backstage and that he went to Johnny Ace about it. Johnny Ace wouldn't tell him anything more about it.
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# ? Feb 3, 2024 00:36 |
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I remember reading the affidavit, and feeling that Vince McMahon and his cronies deserved to have every word of that document carved on their faces with a rusty knife. I now believe that the 67-page document from the current allegations should also be carved onto their faces. Every single word.
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but Trench is cooler than either of those dinks. Why would dilute the gimmick?? But seriously the Ashely Massaro stuff is seriously egregious. I remember being a poo poo about her too. Ugh. And gently caress the USO too because that's the not the first time that's been a thing on their time.
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It's insane to me there are still so many folks insisting that no way wrestlers like Cody or whomever knew about how heinous WWE and Vince's crimes were when Ashley's suicide and Vince's recent allegations happened only a few years apart. MassRafTer posted:Most shocking he shares that he heard wrestlers gossiping about it backstage and that he went to Johnny Ace about it. Johnny Ace wouldn't tell him anything more about it. ... and of course, just like any of the other poo poo in WWE, people backstage already knew about it before it surfaces outside the company.
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Finished the podcast. Melina and Mick Foley are briefly interviewed at Wrestlecon but there isn't a lot there. Paul London agrees to be interviewed at the end after previously declining (he and others didn't seem to trust the story would be done right, which is easy to understand.) I've seen other interviews with him where he relates that she told him about what happened and that she'd be invited on the corporate jet which made her very uncomfortable but I believe he's told that elsewhere. What I'd never heard before is he said that Vince would come to her hotel room after shows and she would have to hide silently in her room all night pretending she wasn't there in fear of him.
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fuckin jet molesters.
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MassRafTer posted:Goldberg noted other issues with the NDA, among them that the copy Grant filed in federal court in Connecticut wasn’t actually signed by McMahon in either his personal capacity or role as then-chair of WWE; normally, all parties would receive an executed copy of the contract. Always knew that Goldberg would be the end of Vince eventually
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MassRafTer posted:Finished the podcast. Melina and Mick Foley are briefly interviewed at Wrestlecon but there isn't a lot there. Paul London agrees to be interviewed at the end after previously declining (he and others didn't seem to trust the story would be done right, which is easy to understand.) I've seen other interviews with him where he relates that she told him about what happened and that she'd be invited on the corporate jet which made her very uncomfortable but I believe he's told that elsewhere. What I'd never heard before is he said that Vince would come to her hotel room after shows and she would have to hide silently in her room all night pretending she wasn't there in fear of him. God I hope he loving rots. What a miserable pile of poo poo disguised as a human being.
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coconono posted:But seriously the Ashely Massaro stuff is seriously egregious. I remember being a poo poo about her too. Ugh. And gently caress the USO too because that's the not the first time that's been a thing on their time. Yeah, I remember wryly it'd be amazing if she learned to wrestle and never knew she... wasn't allowed to.
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Ganso Bomb posted:God I hope he loving rots. What a miserable pile of poo poo disguised as a human being. Pretty harsh on Paul London. Dawgstar posted:Yeah, I remember wryly it'd be amazing if she learned to wrestle and never knew she... wasn't allowed to. I wasn't aware of her attempt to train being sabotaged. I'd just assumed that they just hadn't bothered to do so. I'm just amazed at this company's ability to continuously find ways to take something bad and find ways to make it worse.
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Paul London mentioned the bear skin rug in his shoot with Brian Kendrick like…almost 20 years ago. Open secret about sexual favours for a push
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MassRafTer posted:Finished the podcast. Melina and Mick Foley are briefly interviewed at Wrestlecon but there isn't a lot there. Paul London agrees to be interviewed at the end after previously declining (he and others didn't seem to trust the story would be done right, which is easy to understand.) I've seen other interviews with him where he relates that she told him about what happened and that she'd be invited on the corporate jet which made her very uncomfortable but I believe he's told that elsewhere. What I'd never heard before is he said that Vince would come to her hotel room after shows and she would have to hide silently in her room all night pretending she wasn't there in fear of him. Mick knew. Also Cane Dewey. For real, this time.
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SirPhoebos posted:Also Cane Dewey. For real, this time. Why?
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I've had a hard time following any wrestling since the wave of Me Too came out in 2020. This seems worse, in that it exposes that probably everyone I liked in wrestling from childhood until now was aware and did nothing about it. At best. And how many of them were complicit or participated in it. It just sickens me, and I hope the company gets destroyed because of it. You can't reform something like that. This thread is really well done, and PSP is full of cool and good posters. Thank you.
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Cause Dewey worked for WWE until last year
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# ? Feb 3, 2024 04:19 |
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cause we deserve long-term storytelling that leads somewhere for once!!
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stab posted:Cause Dewey worked for WWE until last year The way the original poster framed his comment, it implies it's in relation to Mick's alleged knowledge of what happened to Ashley Massaro. Dewey Foley was 14 at the time it happened.
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https://voca.ro/1ggAEJFjSIg0
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^very dark lolMassRafTer posted:Finished the podcast. Melina and Mick Foley are briefly interviewed at Wrestlecon but there isn't a lot there. Paul London agrees to be interviewed at the end after previously declining (he and others didn't seem to trust the story would be done right, which is easy to understand.) I've seen other interviews with him where he relates that she told him about what happened and that she'd be invited on the corporate jet which made her very uncomfortable but I believe he's told that elsewhere. What I'd never heard before is he said that Vince would come to her hotel room after shows and she would have to hide silently in her room all night pretending she wasn't there in fear of him. i posted that itt brother, he talked about Ashley with Rene on his podcast last year (Renes).
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