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Is there even a central plot in Sinfest anymore? It just seems to jump from reference to reference and depicting the bad guys as people/groups he hates. Because if there was a central plot, that would mean all of these references exist in the same world, which would just raise even further questions.
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JamesBont posted:Is there even a central plot in Sinfest anymore? It just seems to jump from reference to reference and depicting the bad guys as people/groups he hates. The central plot is that trans people are all pedophilic monsters who want to molest your children before and after forcing them to transition, also sex workers are helpless cattle who are coerced into the industry by pimps who also work for the trans people.
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idonotlikepeas posted:
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Feb 19, 2024 00:18
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Never thought I'd live to see Sinfest switching gears to compete with Stonetoss.
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Feb 19, 2024 00:20
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Trapezium Dave posted:
I'm sure this is racist but I can't read it as anything but "Europeans came over and wiped out the Aboriginal population." What's the intended meaning?
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Feb 19, 2024 00:41
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L. Ron DeSantis posted:I'm sure this is racist but I can't read it as anything but "Europeans came over and wiped out the Aboriginal population." What's the intended meaning? * This is the exact wording Dutton is using on repeat, to the point it seems like he's generating ad copy to for the smugglers.
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Feb 19, 2024 01:05
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Trapezium Dave posted:It's "Stop the Boats" politics, the Aussie equivalent to the weak on borders line in the US. The intended meaning is since once again we have a Labor government the people smugglers sense we have a Weak Prime Minister* and the floodgates are opened (don't actually link this to facts or policy). To me it's AGC because it's the same drum they've been banging since 2001. So in summary it's racist. Thanks for the explanation though. Are boats actually arriving en masse on Australian shores or is this just fearmongering?
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Vib Rib posted:You're not even white yourself, why are you sucking up to the neonazis so much remember hapajap
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L. Ron DeSantis posted:So in summary it's racist. Thanks for the explanation though. Are boats actually arriving en masse on Australian shores or is this just fearmongering? But "Stop the Boats" was a key part of the Abbott opposition playbook that Dutton is copying so it won't stop the cartoons arriving en masse.
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Amjad Rasmi Dave Whamond  Drew Sheneman  Drew Sheneman posted:When Democratic Party leadership fell in line behind the U.S. Senate candidacy of Tammy Murphy something tells me this isn’t how they saw things going. The party was on their way to a coronation when a Senate race broke out. Jeff Stahler  Patrick Chappatte  Randall Enos  Yaakov Kirschen (Dry Bones) 
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L. Ron DeSantis posted:So in summary it's racist. Thanks for the explanation though. Are boats actually arriving en masse on Australian shores or is this just fearmongering? Going off mates in the ADF, the absolute most that has ever happened was a handful of people that bought the Liberal propaganda, that Labor would let all the boats come in if they were elected. So something like 2 boats came over shortly after Labor won the 2022, and were stopped in Australian waters by the RAN because, you know, Labor were the ones who started Sovereign Borders and off-shore detention for refugees in the first place, so why would they stop? Otherwise, assume it's a scare campaign from the 'brown people bad' parties of LNP, One Nation, and that one with the guy who tried copying Trump. Like when they announced a boat arrived ON ELECTION DAY, and mass texted people to vote Liberal to stop this from happening (ignoring that the Libs were in power at the time still...) https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-27/scott-morrison-instructed-border-force-election-day-boat/101101464
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I know the title changed just recently but Political Cartoons 2024: So in summary it's racist
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ZZT the Fifth posted:Maybe it's just me, but I feel like these three strips in particular have the stank of AI "art" on 'em. Especially the one with the dude in heaven looking at the back of the map for some reason. I don't see much evidence of this. There are no limbs poking out from the wrong areas, miscolored eyes, extra fingers or inconsistency between the frames that you'd find with AI art and I have no clue what model this would even be using.
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Rall: He's So Senile He Can’t Pretend He's Senile Ted Rall posted:Special Counsel Robert Hur decided not to charge President Biden with mishandling classified documents because he’s too senile to be deemed to have free will and intent for prosecution. Yet Biden immediately called a press conference, at which he claimed to be of sound mind and body—and then conflated the presidents of Mexico and Egypt.
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Feb 19, 2024 10:48
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idonotlikepeas posted:Anyway, just thought that might be worth mentioning as we get into more antisemitic Tolkien stuff. That's not to say there wasn't an element of (possibly unconscious) antisemitism in his depiction of dwarves (whom he definitely thought of as being Jewish), but he would be absolutely appalled at what Tatsuya is doing with his work here, and not just for artistic reasons.
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Feb 19, 2024 11:50
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so tats started a plot about the Woke Demons invading heaven with assistance from the evil Tolkien counselor giving dodgy advice to God, then I guess veered off from there into a story about the Woke Orcs invading middle earth while *still doing the heaven story,* am I following this poo poo properly
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Skios posted:A.F. Branco
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Gnome de plume posted:so tats started a plot about the Woke Demons invading heaven with assistance from the evil Tolkien counselor giving dodgy advice to God, then I guess veered off from there into a story about the Woke Orcs invading middle earth while *still doing the heaven story,* am I following this poo poo properly Kinda weird he started with God. I mean how do you top Yahweh getting tricked?
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Feb 19, 2024 13:22
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The obvious next move would be to do the whole Schopenhauer/Wagner shtick of claiming that he's 'just' the Jewish god and therefore inherently flawed, but I think the current version of the American alt-right that Tats takes all of his cues from is far too culturally Protestant to go along with that. That giant Jewish robot literally invading heaven and killing God is still a possibility in his garbage brain world though.
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Feb 19, 2024 13:30
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Is there like, talk of actually passing the ERA again, or is Branco's brain going soft(er)?
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I long for the day that Prickly City is finished and we can all forget it.
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"how can we be forgotten, what about our memorable adventures??" *floats in a void talking about how both sides are the same so there's no point*
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I don't think I've ever seen a Prickly City where he made an interesting or even unambiguous point. It's just nothing. This pill joke is still better than the usual interminable waffling. A sad example of someone who does appear to have some artistic talent (although I assume much of it is copy-paste by now) but is either extremely lazy or just doesn't know what to do with it.
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Feb 19, 2024 17:10
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I mean yeah every step forward made since the neolithic revolution has reduced some social inequalities and exacerbated others, what's your point? (Obviously that we should celebrate uncritically all progress that benefits Fishman and vehemently oppose any progress that benefits anyone else, but he's already saying that.)
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Mordaedil posted:I don't see much evidence of this. There are no limbs poking out from the wrong areas, miscolored eyes, extra fingers or inconsistency between the frames that you'd find with AI art and I have no clue what model this would even be using. Vib Rib posted:He's done like 5 different versions of "awful immigrants come in and ruin everything". He's going to do a dozen more, just flipping through various settings and pop media franchises, where the deceived well meaning ruler is led astray by some overtly Jewish figure to let in the ravenous hordes and despoil paradise.
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Skios posted:Michael Ramirez Wake up, babe! New Ramirez fetish just dropped!
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Phlegmish posted:A sad example of someone who does appear to have some artistic talent (although I assume much of it is copy-paste by now) but is either extremely lazy or just doesn't know what to do with it. The really sad part is Stantis gets the byline, but he only writes the strip. The art is done by Eric Allie. The strips he drew before hiring a ghost artist looks like scribbled dog poo poo. InsertPotPun posted:"how can we be forgotten, what about our memorable adventures??" My favorite was the time traveler storyline. Where they said things like, "Here we are in the Renaissance, look at all the beautiful art." While still just standing in a featureless void.
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I dont know posted:The really sad part is Stantis gets the byline, but he only writes the strip. The art is done by Eric Allie. The strips he drew before hiring a ghost artist looks like scribbled dog poo poo. It's a collaborative effort? The only thing Stantis has to do is the writing? With a handful of exceptions, I have never seen a single Prickly City that had anything interesting to say. drat, that really is sad.
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Phlegmish posted:It's a collaborative effort? The only thing Stantis has to do is the writing? With a handful of exceptions, I have never seen a single Prickly City that had anything interesting to say. drat, that really is sad. I'm not even sure the creators give a drat about it at this point. It's just a steady job for them (important for someone with as little societal value as a political cartoonist) creating something no one reads so why put any effort beyond the minimum in?
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Skios posted:Tom Stiglich Also it's okay when our guy Edit: remember when we clowned on them for Trump saying he actually can kill people as President by pointing out Biden can do that by the same logic and they mysteriously completely did not give a poo poo about Biden having the exact same kind of power to abuse that they say he wants to and will use for evil? Gee it sure is like they know out of the two of them, only one might try The Edit Strikes Back: when I went to Tea Parties at the local courthouse, Obama destroying the Constitution was a pretty common claim. When asked how he's doing that, I was typically met with "taking are guns" or something he very obviously had the authority to do The Islamic Shock fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Feb 19, 2024 |
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Guavanaut posted:I mean yeah every step forward made since the neolithic revolution has reduced some social inequalities and exacerbated others, what's your point? it's great that society advances so much that deplorable people have to pretend they NEVER would have been such old fashioned assholes. you know drat well tinsely is only 50 years off of making "women wearing pants????" comics
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Gnome de plume posted:so tats started a plot about the Woke Demons invading heaven with assistance from the evil Tolkien counselor giving dodgy advice to God, then I guess veered off from there into a story about the Woke Orcs invading middle earth while *still doing the heaven story,* am I following this poo poo properly "Properly"? That depends. How much are you drinking as you read? Guavanaut posted:Yeah British 1930s philosemitism is very weird and uncomfortable in a "could you not" sort of way, but it did arise as a reaction against the English, French, and German antisemitism of the earlier decades, and any of Tolkien's "hey I invented a whole Hebrew/Aramaic language for the dwarves isn't that cool?" stuff is vastly preferable to anything that Tats is doing, which is just turning whatever pop culture he last saw a poster of into a bad copy of antidreyfusard propaganda. Tolkien in particular went out of his way to talk about how awesome he thought Jewish people were on a number of occasions. (I remember another letter where he talked about how hanging out with his Jewish friend was like a glimpse of an unfallen world.) But he also made the cultural flaw of the dwarves greed and specifically hoarding of wealth. (At least Gimli never really fell into that.) People are complicated, and bias and prejudices can arise from a number of sources, some without being acknowledged or understood even by the people holding them. And then you have Ishida just writing a strip where he straight-up says Jews run the world and murder whoever they like. Mordaedil posted:I don't see much evidence of this. There are no limbs poking out from the wrong areas, miscolored eyes, extra fingers or inconsistency between the frames that you'd find with AI art and I have no clue what model this would even be using. I got a little curious about this, so I tried a couple of things in freely-available AI image generators. Prompt: "A cartoonist realizing that he's wrong in the style of Tatsuya Ishida." DALL-E 3 via Bing.  Prompt: "A cartoonist quitting his job in the style of Tatsuya Ishida." DALL-E 3 via Bing.  Prompt: "A cartoonist realizing how terrible he is in the style of Tatsuya Ishida." DALL-E 2.  (Midjourney's free trial seems to be offline at the moment, so I can't try that one.) I wouldn't be surprised if Ishida was taking shortcuts of some kind with his art as he gets older, but I doubt it's just full-on AI generation.
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If it was AI generated he'd feed it his entire strip library to teach it the style, as I roughly understand things. I don't think it is though. Some people hit that stride where they can art in their style at high speed, especially if it's part of their day to day income. Sinfest is 23 years old, he's likely got a robotic process about it and likely a sizeable backlog of strips. Oh yes, that's right. This is racism and pop culture mindrot so deeply entrenched that it has brewed for months at a time! Then again Sinfest has such a lovely, spotty narrative that he can freely insert dank memes and headlines as they happen with a fresh drawn bit of trash.
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The link between dragons, dwarves, and gold lust goes back to Fafnir in Norse mythology. Of course, dwarves in mythology were earth spirits, not a people. Tolkien decided to make dwarves an deliverate analog to Jewish people at some point during the writing (exiles from their homeland, a population dominated by craftsmen). It's possible he combined these two separate inspirations without considering what they looked like together, but I can't believe it wouldn't occur to him given how prominent antijewish propaganda was at the time.
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Rowe:  Albanese signs WA GST pledge on reporter’s arm and signals possible support for state’s nickel miners (Guardian). "PM says federal government will make ‘no changes’ to Western Australia GST payments, which could hit $50bn over a decade". At the door is Liberal WA senator Michaelia Cash who slammed the stunt with "but u lied". Pope:  Lethbridge:  Wilcox:  Spooner: 
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