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So what's the total amount and number of people who have had their college debt forgiven during Biden's term?
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zoux posted:So what's the total amount and number of people who have had their college debt forgiven during Biden's term? I found this on a site call The19th. I'm not sure if it's a good source, but it got most to the point about things. https://19thnews.org/2024/02/studen...4138%20billion. quote:Although the Supreme Court blocked the administration’s loan forgiveness plan in June that would have canceled up to $20,000 in debt for all borrowers earning under $125,000 annually, the administration has, to date, approved debt relief for 3.9 million people amounting to roughly $138 billion.
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Feb 21, 2024 15:47
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Eric Cantonese posted:I found this on a site call The19th. I'm not sure if it's a good source, but it got most to the point about things. Pretty good. The 19th is legit, it was started by the former EIC for the Texas Tribune and it's a platform that focuses mostly on how political issues are impacting women . (Hence the name, the 19th Amendment)
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Feb 21, 2024 15:49
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:People who signed up for the new Biden IDR student loan plan (now called the SAVE plan) and had previous federal loans that they converted to the new SAVE plan that would have met the requirements for forgiveness are now having the forgiveness trigger automatically instead of having to wait 10 years as if it were a new loan. Yeah. Sign up for Save before April and they pull your entire payment history as qualifying payments. Half my job's as a student loan advisor's been telling people to stop dicking around and get on that. It only applies to federal held loans, but you can consolidate your commercial loans into fed loans and apply for save to get the same credit. Looks like they're doing things a bit before the deadline.
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Feb 21, 2024 15:50
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zoux posted:So what's the total amount and number of people who have had their college debt forgiven during Biden's term? It says in the article: quote:it has now approved loan discharges totaling nearly $138 billion for nearly 3.9 million borrowers through dozens of administrative actions since coming into office. Currently, it is about 1/3 of the original loan forgiveness plan amount.
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Feb 21, 2024 15:50
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On Fox News last night, Trump listed his VP shortlist:quote:VIVEK RAMASWAMY https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2024/02/21/the-biden-impeachments-latest-big-blow-00142385
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Feb 21, 2024 15:55
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:On Fox News last night, Trump listed his VP shortlist: Tulsi loving Gabbard? Wow she really went off the deep end after the 2020 primaries huh? I know she was wrapped up in some eyebrow raising things even back then, but to be even considered as a Trump VP? Your life must have taken a very poor turn.
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Feb 21, 2024 15:59
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Meatball Ron getting a VP slot after all those insults getting traded around would be something else.
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Feb 21, 2024 16:06
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:On Fox News last night, Trump listed his VP shortlist: sorta. the fox lady listed them and he said "yeah sure". i think its some gonna be some weird unknown rando nutjob like mike johnson.
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Feb 21, 2024 16:08
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Dapper_Swindler posted:sorta. the fox lady listed them and he said "yeah sure". i think its some gonna be some weird unknown rando nutjob like mike johnson. He seemed to love Tim Scott last night: quote:Trump on Tuesday evening singled out Scott, who was in the audience, for the most praise. Scott, who dropped out of the Republican primary last year and later endorsed Trump, has been aggressively campaigning for Trump in his home state ahead of South Carolina’s Feb. 24 primary.
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Feb 21, 2024 16:10
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Dapper_Swindler posted:sorta. the fox lady listed them and he said "yeah sure". i think its some gonna be some weird unknown rando nutjob like mike johnson. If I were a betting man I would bet on Ivanka.
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Feb 21, 2024 16:18
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:He seemed to love Tim Scott last night: partly, but i dont think he picks him, i think he likes debasing morons like scott who will debase themselves at a chance at the throne.
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Feb 21, 2024 16:19
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Dull Fork posted:Tulsi loving Gabbard? Wow she really went off the deep end after the 2020 primaries huh? I know she was wrapped up in some eyebrow raising things even back then, but to be even considered as a Trump VP? Your life must have taken a very poor turn. Oh yeah, she went basically full MAGA basically as soon as Trump lost. In 2022, she left the Dems entirely and went independent, proclaiming that the Democratic Party was an "elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms, are hostile to people of faith & spirituality, demonize the police & protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans, believe in open borders, weaponize the national security state to go after political opponents, and above all, dragging us ever closer to nuclear war". Incidentally, she got a paying job at Fox News just over a month after she said that. Which didn't really shock people, given that she was already a frequent guest on Tucker Carlson's show by that point.
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Feb 21, 2024 16:22
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:If I were a betting man I would bet on Ivanka. I'd bet it's going to be none of those people on the list. https://twitter.com/ArthurDelaneyHP/status/1760320272740081741 
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Feb 21, 2024 16:25
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Dull Fork posted:Tulsi loving Gabbard? Wow she really went off the deep end after the 2020 primaries huh? I know she was wrapped up in some eyebrow raising things even back then, but to be even considered as a Trump VP? Your life must have taken a very poor turn. After her campaign fizzled and she left the party, she just fell extra hard into the pro-Russia side of politics and the rest of her politics dropped her closer to the Trumpist side than the "leftist" side. She gets the "former Dem showing how the party has Gone Too Far" cred there.
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Feb 21, 2024 16:31
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Killer robot posted:After her campaign fizzled and she left the party, she just fell extra hard into the pro-Russia side of politics and the rest of her politics dropped her closer to the Trumpist side than the "leftist" side. She gets the "former Dem showing how the party has Gone Too Far" cred there. Wasn't she always pretty much a republican anyway?
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Feb 21, 2024 16:45
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zoux posted:I'd bet it's going to be none of those people on the list. Comer says they may no longer try to impeach Biden because the House margins are too small and some Republicans in blue seats want to sell themselves as independent and think they need some evidence to justify a vote for impeachment. Other Republicans also think just keeping an open impeachment investigation for the next year without ever having a vote will be more useful. quote:Rep. James Comer: Biden impeachment vote may not happen https://spectrumnews1.com/ky/louisville/news/2024/02/15/comer--biden-impeachment-vote-may-not-happen-?cid=share_twitter
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Feb 21, 2024 16:48
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Eric Cantonese posted:Meatball Ron getting a VP slot after all those insults getting traded around would be something else. isn't trump's official residence florida now, and wouldn't that in turn mean that a Trump-Desantis ticket couldn't get Florida's electoral votes?
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Feb 21, 2024 16:49
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Wasn't she always pretty much a republican anyway? This is a recurring problem with Democrats who are former troops. And yet, they just can't seem to resist nominating them. "This person can win some Republican votes" obviously carries with it the corollary "because they have some Republican positions." But that doesn't seem to deter them.
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Feb 21, 2024 16:52
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Was it a mistake for the Biden administration to use the words "final solution"?
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Feb 21, 2024 16:54
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Comer says they may no longer try to impeach Biden because the House margins are too small and some Republicans in blue seats want to sell themselves as independent and think they need some evidence to justify a vote for impeachment. Other Republicans also think just keeping an open impeachment investigation for the next year without ever having a vote will be more useful. I imagine they are just going to quietly let it fade away, even Jim Jordan is flailing https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1760320971544641912 Also, Bloomberg opinion columnist accidentally reveals that the DC press corps isn't actually interested in news related to governing; government. https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1760049024457957592 This is why they want Trump to win, they are bored and scared that they are going to get laid off. This is the Faustian bargain they are making, and in 2016 it resulted in the largest revenues for print and cable media since they industry started collapsing at the turn of the century. They are doing it again.
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Feb 21, 2024 16:55
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Wasn't she always pretty much a republican anyway? More or less. One of those "Had to be on the Democratic ticket to win in Hawaii" deals. She backed some progressive stuff, both in Congress and the primary, but nothing you wouldn't expect from a Democratic representative from Hawaii and definitely left of some of what she backed before she ran for Congress. But her big visibility was always foreign policy where she was sharply criticizing of Obama in a way that was absolute catnip to some left and libertarian types who wanted to frame him as the great warmonger of our time. Thing is, in anything past the most surface analysis, she just thought he didn't buddy up to authoritarian dictators enough and we could bomb way more Muslims if we worked with Assad rather than against him.
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Feb 21, 2024 17:10
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Jimbozig posted:This is a recurring problem with Democrats who are former troops. And yet, they just can't seem to resist nominating them. There are plenty of "hold your nose and vote" type Democrats who are former troops. Usually they're the "economic conservative social liberal" types though. Gabbard was all the way out there in my-church-hates-the-gays land all along, right? Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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Feb 21, 2024 17:15
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zoux posted:I imagine they are just going to quietly let it fade away, even Jim Jordan is flailing I mean the Hunter Biden situation is pretty frustrating in a way, because there is evidence that Bill Barr, David Weiss and others were involved in pushing the investigation despite doubts about Smirnov and others, but now David Weiss is in charge of prosecuting Smirnov despite being a witness. One would thing that a justice department scandal with regards to Hunter Biden would drive traffic to the media, but clearly the DC media has other priorities. For example, as Marcy Wheeler points out, Scott Brady claimed to have verified travel records for the Smirnov tip, but the DC press corps is playing possum about this: https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1760322901977293262
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plogo posted:I mean the Hunter Biden situation is pretty frustrating in a way, because there is evidence that Bill Barr, David Weiss and others were involved in pushing the investigation despite doubts about Smirnov and others, but now David Weiss is in charge of prosecuting Smirnov despite being a witness. One would thing that a justice department scandal with regards to Hunter Biden would drive traffic to the media, but clearly the DC media has other priorities. Ryan Lizza has, uh, motivated reasoning 
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Feb 21, 2024 17:18
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I agree that Ryan Lizza sucks. I also wouldn't expect journalists who have been involved in reporting on Hunter Biden like Devlin Barrett or Matt Viser to start writing stories contradicting their prior narratives because they don't want to look bad. But my overall point is that I do not think the DC press as a WHOLE will delve into the origins of the Hunter Biden indictments as much as they should.
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Feb 21, 2024 17:27
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I don't disagree, I'll just never miss an opportunity to bag on Ryan Lizza The unskewing guy from 2012 kind of hosed us on this because you sound like a nut anytime you dig into the cross tabs but do we really think an outright majority of Americans aged 18-29 supports a 16 week abortion ban? And is in fact the demo most pro abortion ban? zoux fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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Feb 21, 2024 17:29
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According to Dave Wasserman, New York Democrats are considering overruling the bipartisan redistricting commission to submit their own map that is slightly more gerrymandered in their favor, but still keeps some of the court-ordered competitive districts that gave Republicans 9 more competitive seats in New York. This would turn 3 lean R seats into lean D seats and keep several "competitive" districts in Long Island (one of which they just won back). This is to get a little gerrymandering in, but avoid a court case over it. https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1760338496835801349
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Feb 21, 2024 17:30
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A little gerrymandering, as a treat
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Feb 21, 2024 17:34
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haveblue posted:A little gerrymandering, as a treat *shrug* It's the only way available that even has the slim possibility of fixing some things. Gotta stick it to the red team until they squeal and then agree that the thing that sucks, sucks because it's hurting them so now it needs changed. You can't do decorum games and try to fair-play your way out of a fight with fascists.
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Feb 21, 2024 17:37
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Some people dug up a public appearance from one of the people writing Trump's policy platform for 2024 and that "Christian Nationalism" document. What kind of sad sack piece of poo poo wants to eliminate recreational sex? Who is voting for this?
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Feb 21, 2024 17:39
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Christians.
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tigersklaw posted:What kind of sad sack piece of poo poo wants to eliminate recreational sex? Who is voting for this? weird trad and evangelical nuts and weird /pol/ type trad incel types, no one in any real majority. also lots of weird self hatred poo poo. not in the "lol they are secret gays" but just in the "feeling any kind of pleasure is a sin as is holding hands" type poo poo. its the duggar/moral orel type poo poo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS27S3mspjU its the religious equivalent of this. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 21, 2024 |
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Feb 21, 2024 17:41
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koolkal posted:Christians. Yeah I mean, they think it's a sin. I've always maintained that the pro-life movement was more about ensuring that women face consequences for sex rather than sincere concern for the fetal lives, but I didn't expect them to start admitting it.
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zoux posted:Yeah I mean, they think it's a sin. I've always maintained that the pro-life movement was more about ensuring that women face consequences for sex rather than sincere concern for the fetal lives, but I didn't expect them to start admitting it. i mean, why pretend anymore. they have purged anyone who would fight back and the GOP follows their bullshit. they got roe dead and are gonna run for everything on trump because they know if they lose and lose badly enough, they wont get into power again nationally for long time possibly.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:weird trad and evangelical nuts and weird /pol/ type trad incel types That's what they said, Christians.
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They've also captured the Supreme Court and their only opposition is a Democratic Party that will bow down to whatever the law preists say, while refusing to pack it because doing so would "politicize" the institution. If there's a time for the Christofascist freaks to shoot their shot, it's now.
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Feb 21, 2024 17:53
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B B posted:They've also captured the Supreme Court and their only opposition is a Democratic Party that will bow down to whatever the law preists say, while refusing to pack it because doing so would "politicize" the institution. If there's a time for the Christofascist freaks to shoot their shot, it's now. I'm not sure that this is true, do you have any evidence for this or what they should do differently?
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B B posted:They've also captured the Supreme Court and their only opposition is a Democratic Party that will bow down to whatever the law preists say, while refusing to pack it because doing so would "politicize" the institution. If there's a time for the Christofascist freaks to shoot their shot, it's now. It's crazy how everything bad that happens is somehow the Democrats' fault. I do agree they should've used their 60-vote Senate supermajority to pass a SCOTUS reform bill in 2021, but I guess they are just too decorum poisoned. Kari Lake is trying to pivot to the middle and, lol https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/1760346193630990352
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zoux posted:Yeah I mean, they think it's a sin. I've always maintained that the pro-life movement was more about ensuring that women face consequences for sex rather than sincere concern for the fetal lives, but I didn't expect them to start admitting it. A lot of the anti abortion movement will straight up admit that they want women to have consequences to sex. It’s not a new or uncommon reasoning.
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