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the New Lore that laios basically grabbed shuro off the street and press-ganged him into the party is very good
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Feb 21, 2024 19:23
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Huh, Namari immediately bailing after the dragon wipe is kinda harsher with this new context of her being the first and longest-lasting non-family party member.
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Feb 21, 2024 19:25
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namari bailing immediately is at least somewhat understandable considering she’s got to work hard to dig out of the stigma her father consigned her to but shuro leaving is the real early characterization question mark, considering farlyn was his (in his perception) almost-fiance and the letter of resignation he left said that he had gotten an offer from another party
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panko posted:namari bailing immediately is at least somewhat understandable considering she’s got to work hard to dig out of the stigma her father consigned her to but shuro leaving is the real early characterization question mark, considering farlyn was his (in his perception) almost-fiance and the letter of resignation he left said that he had gotten an offer from another party
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Feb 21, 2024 21:48
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yeah but none of that comes through in chapter 1
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Feb 21, 2024 22:11
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panko posted:yeah but none of that comes through in chapter 1 Shuro doesn't exactly like Laios, trust Laios, or enjoy dealing with Laios. and it doesn't really seem like he particularly got along with any of the others besides Farlyn. seems like he mostly kept to himself, aside from Laios constantly wanting to hang out with him makes sense that he wouldn't stick around to give a proper farewell before running off to go grab a party he felt was far more competent, and also makes sense that he wouldn't offer to take Laios with him
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Feb 21, 2024 22:15
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that’s all fine as backfilled lore but like with namari’s characterization none of that comes through in chapter 1
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Feb 21, 2024 22:19
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panko posted:that’s all fine as backfilled lore but like with namari’s characterization none of that comes through in chapter 1 Why should it? They left abruptly because of personal reasons and we learn about that later. Not talking about it in the first chapter just gives room for the crew to met Senshi and begin their gourmet tour of the dungeon.
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they didn't have a deep bond of friendship. they were coworkers. everyone who went after farlyn did so because they love her. if marcille had access to a party of highly skilled retainers like shuro, she probably would have acted just like he did. the exception was chilchuck, who is a grumpy old dad that couldn't let these idiot kids go get themselves killed.
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Feb 21, 2024 22:55
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panko posted:that’s all fine as backfilled lore but like with namari’s characterization none of that comes through in chapter 1 Not every manga author starts off chapter 1 with every single character idea, worldbuilding concept, story beat, and arc fully conceived. I'm sure some do, but for many others it's a process that is developed over time, starting with a few clear ideas fleshed out, a general plot progression, and the first few chapters written.
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Feb 21, 2024 22:59
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This gives me Stargate vibes and now I'm imagining Ryoko Kui helming a Stargate reboot.
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Feb 21, 2024 22:59
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Can Of Worms posted:This gives me Stargate vibes and now I'm imagining Ryoko Kui helming a Stargate reboot. Oh god I didn't notice that I messed up the transparency there
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Feb 21, 2024 23:05
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DrSunshine posted:Not every manga author starts off chapter 1 with every single character idea, worldbuilding concept, story beat, and arc fully conceived. I'm sure some do, but for many others it's a process that is developed over time, starting with a few clear ideas fleshed out, a general plot progression, and the first few chapters written. this is not a bad thing nor was I criticizing it 
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Feb 22, 2024 00:25
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didn't expect Kabru to dump some Canary Unit 731 lore 
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Laios is the goodest boy and that's why everyone puts up with his poo poo
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Three new comics!  Laios and Kabru   Thistle's sense of humor.  Melini greenification project  
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I hope these post-credits never stop
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I love that Izutsumi was the only remember to remember the poop detail also Laios and Kabru? More like gay gay homosexual gay
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GOD that detail was killing me yes, YES I AM THE NERD WHO THOUGHT THAT ALL THAT SALT MUST BE HELL ON THE SOIL QUALITY, no Ryoko is nerds with me and thought of that too.
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I’m so happy that Laios has a friend
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WAIT IZU HAS AN ADORABLE KITTY BOW edit: WHAT THE gently caress HAS SHE ALWAYS HAD THIS
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Synthbuttrange posted:GOD that detail was killing me yes, YES I AM THE NERD WHO THOUGHT THAT ALL THAT SALT MUST BE HELL ON THE SOIL QUALITY, no Ryoko is nerds with me and thought of that too. It's all a part of the Demons curse that prevents Laios from fulfilling his dreams. "Sorry Laios, no tradition of Monster hunting and Monster cuisine in your kingdom, here, have forests instead."
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DrSunshine posted:Not every manga author starts off chapter 1 with every single character idea, worldbuilding concept, story beat, and arc fully conceived. I'm sure some do, but for many others it's a process that is developed over time, starting with a few clear ideas fleshed out, a general plot progression, and the first few chapters written. SexyBlindfold posted:didn't expect Kabru to dump some Canary Unit 731 lore
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Scholtz posted:Melini greenification project Wow what a lovely kingdom 
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SexyBlindfold posted:didn't expect Kabru to dump some Canary Unit 731 lore The Men Behind The Dun(geon)
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Ok this raised a question I can't remember the answer to: Did the manga ever discuss where people pooped in the dungeon? Maybe it was in an earlier chapter and I just forgot after all these years.
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ZiegeDame posted:Ok this raised a question I can't remember the answer to: Did the manga ever discuss where people pooped in the dungeon? Maybe it was in an earlier chapter and I just forgot after all these years. Yes, in Chapter 8.  
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Wait...why is the poop making forests?
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Feb 23, 2024 17:15
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Artificer posted:Wait...why is the poop making forests? Chapter 90 
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e: ^^^^Artificer posted:Wait...why is the poop making forests? Because Laius wished his monster form would have poop that made forests, and he didn't come all the way back to human instantly.
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VideoWitch posted:I love that Izutsumi was the only remember to remember the poop detail  incredible callback
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I love how stoked she is to remember.
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Schrodinger Izutsumi simultaneously not paying any attention to your dumb dream monster idea and remembering even the tiniest details about it.
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read this, it was very good. it is always refreshing to read a work that is thoughtful about race and gender and culture as elements of character without getting flattening or didactic about it. also the central thematic points about eating (both its pleasures and its necessary pain) held together very well from beginning to end. i also really appreciate that chilchuck's biggest character moment near the finale is ultimately just him telling marcille that he sincerely wants to reconcile with his wife and wants her there to help him. also really respect the hell out of the writing's commitment to mithrun's telefrag-based combat style, which is very cool. good stuff all around. i know people expressed surprise that kui said she didn't get deep into video games until after she got serialized (and i don't know the extent of her knowledge of other forms of fantasy) but i think it actually makes perfect sense. dunmeshi feels like the kind of really good stuff you can get when someone with a strong understanding of writing and storytelling and a sense of the value of consistency (which i would argue is the thread uniting kui's worldbuilding and characterization, which are elements of this work people really praise) approaches a genre milieu they are less familiar with (but, crucially, don't disrespect or devalue).
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Me linking Chapter 90 led to me rereading the ending, and I just realized the end "Thank you for reading!" blurb mentions that there will be supplemental books 
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