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I don’t remember dialog well because my brain is stupid and mentally ill
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Denis sounds like a stupid idiot moron who has never seen Blade
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Feb 27, 2024 05:18
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Might be a good idea to re-watch with subtitles. Or read the book. Dune is extremely quotable.
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Feb 27, 2024 06:00
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Mordiceius posted:I know Villeneuve is a visuals guy, so his point comes across a bit extreme, but I think there have been plenty of examples in the last 10-15 years of the TV-ification of filmmaking (see: Disney/MCU) My mate likes this because it means he can get up and go to the kitchen, make himself a snack and come back, sit down, browse the web for five minutes and keep the movie going the entire time he does all of this. I think this is poo poo! But I suspect that's part of the impetus behind the mountains and mountains of verbal exposition these things have.
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Feb 27, 2024 06:06
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just rewatched pan's labyrinth for the first time since it was in theaters. it was pretty ok. i dig the visuals and how brutal it is, but it's overall a pretty thin story and it took me like four nights to finish bc i just got really bored most times i put it on.
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Feb 27, 2024 06:12
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I get what DV is saying, and film is primarily a visual medium, but when that visual medium Is combined with great dialogue then one gets something extraordinary*. However, often that is not the case and dialogue does a lot of the heavy lifting that a director should be doing visually. Probably the first thing that screenwriters are taught (and which many have forgotten or been instructed to ignore) is Show, Don’t Tell. A fantastic example of a film with no dialogue, and which is perfectly comprehensible, funny, and moving, is the first Shaun the Sheep film. Brilliant visual storytelling. (I’m not being facetious; it’s a really excellent film). *for instance , I wouldn’t want to lose “I drink your milkshake!”, or the whole of The Big Lebowski therattle fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Feb 27, 2024 |
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Feb 27, 2024 08:55
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*Paul Muad'Dib having prophetic vision of a galactic Jihad enacted in his name*: So... THAT'S gonna happen!
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Feb 27, 2024 09:10
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Failed Imagineer posted:*Paul Muad'Dib having prophetic vision of a galactic Jihad enacted in his name*: Oh my gawd, it's a galactic Jihad enacted in my name! Script-doctored
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Feb 27, 2024 09:12
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They're Jihading them! And they're doing it in my name! Oh my goooooooooood
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Feb 27, 2024 11:20
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Ghost Leviathan posted:They're Jihading them! And they're doing it in my name! Oh my goooooooooood Lol
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Feb 27, 2024 11:28
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There was a world film premier in Sydney this week (because Mardi Gras, I guess?) and I thought it would be pretty awesome to go because they were doing a Q&A after and I've never really had the opportunity to see one of those or even see a world premier. Train broke down so I literally ran a suburb and a half to make it on time but I dunno why I bothered because the film loving s u c k e d. Awful subtitles, and a tendency to belabour its metaphors into the loving ground. Rosé is the drink of self confidence! My marriage is on the rocks because my husband only takes me on two cruises a year! (this is the exact opposite of what I suspect is true about cruises tbh.) Moral? I dunno, Blue Lights sucks out of space. Honestly, I should have just stayed at the Optus networking event that I accidentally talked my way into because I got confused about where I was meant to be.
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Feb 27, 2024 11:36
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therattle posted:I get what DV is saying, and film is primarily a visual medium, but when that visual medium The easy litmus test for this is simply to imagine how the film would work with every piece of dialogue cut. TWBB doesn't have dialogue for the first what twenty minutes? And you could cut every line and still get across every single emotion and action just on the cinematography, editing, and acting; the dialogue is purely additive, and is generally, like many PTA films, used to add humor instead of drama. Another example is the Omlette scene at the end of Phantom Thread, there are a few lines of dialogue, but PTA knows when to get out of his actors way and let them do their job instead of loading them up with unnecessary exposition.
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Feb 27, 2024 12:05
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2001 has no dialogue for its first 20 minutes or the last 30-40 minutes I'd guess. And that's a perfect movie right there.
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Feb 27, 2024 13:39
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I don’t think 12 Angry Men would be a very satisfying viewing experience if you cut out all the dialogue.
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Feb 27, 2024 14:19
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Gripweed posted:I don’t think 12 Angry Men would be a very satisfying viewing experience if you cut out all the dialogue. It could make an interesting ballet
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Feb 27, 2024 14:21
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No One Will Save You basically pulled the exact trick he's describing and was better than 90% of his filmography so he must be onto something.
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Feb 27, 2024 14:35
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Gripweed posted:I don’t think 12 Angry Men would be a very satisfying viewing experience if you cut out all the dialogue. Which is why we categorize it as a television show.
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Feb 27, 2024 14:35
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No one will save you was so dope. It’s what the grey alien genre needed badly.
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Feb 27, 2024 14:51
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feedmyleg posted:Which is why we categorize it as a television show. Some would even say it's a stage play
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Feb 27, 2024 14:58
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12 angry men is based off a play. So of course it needed that crutch we call dialogue
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Feb 27, 2024 14:59
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Mckenna Grace might have her names in inverse order but she's spectacular and I'm counting down the days she turns an age where she can be cast as something other than precocious child or student. She's been called a nepo baby and it's like 1/10th true in that her dad is an orthopaedic surgeon but there are tons of people with better connections and and loads more money who don't make it. It's 100% a talent thing. Plus unless her dad was quite old to become a father he would have still been a medical student (making a large negative salary) or a resident (basically making the same as a waiter in LA).
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Feb 27, 2024 15:01
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Big braining ourselves back to the silent era
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Feb 27, 2024 15:08
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Why didn't Craig Sheffer ever break through? In the early 90's it looked like he was going to be a genuine movie star but apparently it wasn't in the cards. i love Nightbreed more than almost anyone but he is not a very good actor lol
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Feb 27, 2024 15:46
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ShoogaSlim posted:these all look like what i'm looking for. thanks! Said this a bunch before but man Peter MacNichol is just trying his little rear end off in DRACULA, DEAD AND LOVING IT. Uncle Boogeyman posted:i love Nightbreed more than almost anyone but he is not a very good actor lol NIGHTBREED is one of those movies like SCANNERS where it helps and not hurts that the lead is a blandly handsome guy who doesn't seem like an actor.
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Feb 27, 2024 15:54
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:NIGHTBREED is one of those movies like SCANNERS where it helps and not hurts that the lead is a blandly handsome guy who doesn't seem like an actor. he's clearly a dude Clive Barker cast because he thought he was hot and that rules
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Feb 27, 2024 16:17
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Ghost Leviathan posted:They're Jihading them! And they're doing it in my name! Oh my goooooooooood The Kwisatz Haderach took 1500 years to breed!
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Feb 27, 2024 16:21
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:NIGHTBREED is one of those movies like SCANNERS where it helps and not hurts that the lead is a blandly handsome guy who doesn't seem like an actor. I disagree I think it hurts both movies. Particularly Scanners.
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Feb 27, 2024 16:25
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it's def intentional in Scanners. plus i can't get over the fun irony of a guy with zero affect played by a guy named Stephen Lack
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Feb 27, 2024 16:32
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regulargonzalez posted:Some would even say it's a stage play yeah and i love me a good filmed stageplay, i'll gobble up old bbc productions of that poo poo. 12 angry men is directed by lumet and shot by dziga vertov's little brother, they knew what they were doing and what they did was the bare minimum. it's just barely a movie.
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Feb 27, 2024 16:41
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DeimosRising posted:yeah and i love me a good filmed stageplay, i'll gobble up old bbc productions of that poo poo. 12 angry men is directed by lumet and shot by dziga vertov's little brother, they knew what they were doing and what they did was the bare minimum. it's just barely a movie. And yet, it’s one of the greatest movies ever made.
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Feb 27, 2024 16:50
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It’s a movie: the images move. This idea that dialogue-heavy movies somehow aren’t Pure Cinema is based on an arbitrarily restrictive idea of what cinema is. It’s not a visual medium, it’s an audio-visual medium! With the caveat that silence is audio too. Anyway I’d much rather watch great actors perform a great script than look at a bunch of beautifully crafted images that don’t add up to much. Like Dune Part One for example. I know what Denis means, but this kind of absolutist thinking does explain some of the shortcomings of his filmography.
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Feb 27, 2024 16:56
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actually they're called movies because they move you
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Feb 27, 2024 17:10
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:he's clearly a dude Clive Barker cast because he thought he was hot and that rules Basically yeah. Ideally he'd be played by George Michael. Basebf555 posted:I disagree I think it hurts both movies. Particularly Scanners. The whole point of Lack's character in SCANNERS is that he's in over his head, it's great.
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Feb 27, 2024 17:12
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The whole point of Lack's character in SCANNERS is that he's in over his head, it's great. I feel like there are actors with some talent who could portray that quality while also bringing a bit more screen presence. Let's call them, the Keanu Reeves of the world, there are always a few of them kicking around.
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Feb 27, 2024 17:13
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Actors are overrated.
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Feb 27, 2024 17:22
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Lobster Henry posted:I know what Denis means, but this kind of absolutist thinking does explain some of the shortcomings of his filmography.
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Feb 27, 2024 17:23
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I've never really been wowed by his filmography myself tbh, some solid movies I guess. Dune finally just blew me away with sheer spectacle. Kudos for adapting one of my favorite Saramago novels even if I don't really think it was that good.
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Feb 27, 2024 17:30
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Also does In the Mood For Love also exist in a universe where there are only three songs or so?? Because a friend told me that music repetition is pretty onbrand for WKW and it just feels like I'm watching a Noé/Haneke film and the dude is trying to psychologically torture me.
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Feb 27, 2024 17:34
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I can only focus on three or four songs at a time, so WKW's soundtracks are right in line with my sensibilities now i'm gonna listen to the adagio from 2046 for the next half hour or so
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I've never really been wowed by his filmography myself tbh, some solid movies I guess. Dune finally just blew me away with sheer spectacle. Kudos for adapting one of my favorite Saramago novels even if I don't really think it was that good. I bloody love Sicario and I loved Arrival
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