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Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.
No joke, this is really impressive.

Is there any insight into how much all this has saved you vs. paying some people to do it all with new stuff?
Let's presume you value your time at 0.

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vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

njan99 values his time negatively

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I couldn't find the right combination of words to type into ebay to find one

sums up the thread p. nicely that the first and only alternative to using the one on hand is ebay

anyway congrats NJAN99 despite all the water everywhere in the plant room it must feel pretty good (or terrifying) to turn that thing on and have it actually start to warm up and work and not set the place on fire or immediately hear the thundering crack of a giant fissure opening up in the whole foundation or perhaps a comical geyser of water shooting straight up the chimney somehow

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

OP it's wild you can do this stuff. This is getting very close to disproving the "no one man can make a pencil" type of argument.

Fidelitious posted:

Let's presume you value your time at 0.

Fantastic

VelociBacon fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Feb 27, 2024

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

I was sort of hoping it would somehow start spraying red dye you forgot you left in there, but drat that's impressive.

Dysgenesis
Jul 12, 2012

HAVE AT THEE!


Every time 99 shows a picture of anything my immediate thought is "I wonder if that needs to be that complicated."

I presume the answer is always no.

SpeedFreek
Jan 10, 2008
And Im Lobster Jesus!

Leperflesh posted:

sums up the thread p. nicely that the first and only alternative to using the one on hand is ebay

anyway congrats NJAN99 despite all the water everywhere in the plant room it must feel pretty good (or terrifying) to turn that thing on and have it actually start to warm up and work and not set the place on fire or immediately hear the thundering crack of a giant fissure opening up in the whole foundation or perhaps a comical geyser of water shooting straight up the chimney somehow

I'm waiting until it gets the place up to temperature. I wouldn't feel relief until I saw it turn on and regulate properly.

How fast does it warm the house up? There is a lot of thermal mass/floor to warm up first, right?

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy

Dysgenesis posted:

Every time 99 shows a picture of anything my immediate thought is "I wonder if that needs to be that complicated."

I presume the answer is always no.

See, I always think "I wonder if overcomplicating things to this degree has any value" and I estimate the answer similarly.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Fidelitious posted:

Is there any insight into how much all this has saved you vs. paying some people to do it all with new stuff?
Let's presume you value your time at 0.

I have a pal currently doing a major extension to his already big house. The extension is probably half the size of my house and essentially a new build. Its not a one to one situation but hes having heatpump underfloor heating in it and the quotes are 22k to 30k for the heatpump/heating and installation.

So my whole house installation heating is like...

second hand heatpunp 1.2k
buffer tank 600 quid
all the loving other poo poo 1k

so around £3k

Versus as much as 30k

So a ten times saving.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Please engrave the URL to this thread on a few bronze plates and leave them in the walls. Our descendants deserve to hear what the next homeowner thinks when they open up the walls in 70 years.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

make it more mysterious
"Thread ID 3999215" with no other context. Let them go nuts trying to figure out what the gently caress that means, but also have the incredibly glorious feeling of revelation if someone ever figures it out (and this site is still here somehow, which, lol).

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Only 1k for all that assorted hellmaze of copper and the kms of tube in the slab? drat

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
lol no i was being cheeky. the underfloor stuff is extra. But still

like still thousands, rather than tens of thousands.

TheMightyHandful
Dec 8, 2008

Not saying it won’t, but I wouldn’t count the cost savings until it is confirmed to work.

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Leperflesh posted:

a giant fissure opening up in the whole foundation

if this happens, he'll have bigger problems to worry about, like the rogue planet that just collided with the earth

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy

TheMightyHandful posted:

Not saying it won’t, but I wouldn’t count the cost savings until it is confirmed to work.

No no, we need these posts

To look back on when he brings the system to actual pressure.

Epitope
Nov 27, 2006

Grimey Drawer

Leperflesh posted:

make it more mysterious
"Thread ID 3999215" with no other context. Let them go nuts trying to figure out what the gently caress that means, but also have the incredibly glorious feeling of revelation if someone ever figures it out (and this site is still here somehow, which, lol).

I did this, because I enjoy jokes that no one gets but me

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!
I'm entirely willing to take potshots at him, but it's absolutely worth mentioning this has been a largely impressive venture.

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Slugworth posted:

I'm entirely willing to take potshots at him, but it's absolutely worth mentioning this has been a largely impressive venture.

This, entirely.
But, of course:
https://imgur.com/gallery/5KgEoYL

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

Slugworth posted:

I'm entirely willing to take potshots at him, but it's absolutely worth mentioning this has been a largely impressive venture.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

You can still install these on your windows 10 or 11 or what have you. I put in the flying windows screensaver to run after 5 minutes at work. Several people have stopped and commented when they noticed.

Rapulum_Dei
Sep 7, 2009
Imagine the look on the face of the first real plumber to do a service on it.


I realise that might never happen. But, imagine!

Sagacity
May 2, 2003
Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

Rapulum_Dei posted:

Imagine the look on the face of the first real plumber to do a service on it.


I realise that might never happen. But, imagine!
I also enjoy the show Black Mirror

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

Rapulum_Dei posted:

Imagine the look on the face of the first real plumber to do a service on it.


I realise that might never happen. But, imagine!

I'm thinking more like the plumber from Money Pit:
"Quick, write me a cheque before I come to my senses!"

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:

No no, we need these posts

To look back on when he brings the system to actual pressure.

Look at these nonsense posts. Lol i'm able to sit back and relax in my position as basically a heating and plumbing engineer at this point and just lol at this. Its up to pressure what can go wrong now?



So when I arrive the next morning (which to be honest is one of those afternoon mornings) pressures at zero, puddle on the floor... bollocks. I guess the temp increase has pumped up the pressure and lol one of my half arsed solder joints has failed. Not like a lot but enough.

It takes ages to fix it. Even though its accessible. But got it fixed

Frustrating that I had to dump all the het up water and start again but here we are.

Now the heating side is sorted out. Time to sort out the domestic hot water side. So need to open taps into that and all goes fine.



The domestic water tank is sitting at the 8 degrees of the water coming into the house.

Need to convince the heatpump to switch to that and get heating

It doesnt really seem to play quite how it should but we are at least away



Using the hive thing to try and bring up the house temp as its my only thermostat right now



I'm fudging the timelines a bit here but yeah overnight it has brought up the domestic water heat to 44 out of a target 50. But this was actually the same original night where the leak developed. So probably it would have hit the target but fell down after.



I bought a bunch of cheap extra thermostats to see whats happening.



And yeah after a proper day of heating the whole house is up to the target temp, over shot slightly of 20degrees. Its a bit colder in the loft, only made 17degrees but theres reasons for that. Its boiling in the plant room like 26 degrees. Also the domestic hot watr is now up at 50



I want to test the mixer temp valve on the top of the domestic how water vessel as I'm told it can gimp the hot water. So water in there is up to 50 now lets see what it actually is at the tap. So I need a tap.

If I go in the loft I can turn on the hot water manifold way for the bathroom basin hot tap





If I can figure out which one



then I can piss hot water directly into the toilet



and measure the temp



woah. fully 50degrees. So mixer valve isnt doing anything. interesting.

So I'm using my cooking meat thermometer to measure that which I can also stick in my three buffer tank locations to measure the temps in there and see what the stratification is like.

Bottom



middle



top



Which makes sense. When running the heating loop the heatpump is being told to only go to 40 degrees as shown on the screen. and its running through a mixer valve on the underfloor heating limiting it to 35 degres in the floor. SO the heat store is 35 at the bottom wher the underfloor heating is limiting it and is 40ish at the top where I am.

Cool its all making sense.

Lol. Heres the energu money graph



All those bars last month are my parents campervan. Then they left for a few days and it fell to nowt and then I turned on the heatpump, hosed about for a day then ran it all day to bring the unheated house and hot water up to too warm in a single day. That day cost 13quid.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

so is the mixer valve not doing anything but it should be? Or is it not doing anything, as expected

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad

Leperflesh posted:

so is the mixer valve not doing anything but it should be? Or is it not doing anything, as expected

Could easily be both in this thread

devicenull
May 30, 2007

Grimey Drawer
How is 20C too hot? Don't you need some heat for the plaster to cure?

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
yo, nice one. must be a relief finally having some heat in the winter

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme
Is 50 degrees your test temperature, because it should be at least 55 when you've figured out the pipe maze hell

bred
Oct 24, 2008
It's 50 degrees meat indicated, some conversion required.

sirbeefalot
Aug 24, 2004
Fast Learner.
Fun Shoe
I like my toilet medium rare, personally.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme
I would also like to say that even though I'm shitposting I'm actually really impressed how good everything is looking

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener
Now the heating is kinda working doesn't that mean things are down to 'snagging' ?
A building at work went up & had about 10 folders full of 'snagging'.

i assume 'snagging' mean poo poo thats currently not working/has issues & needs sorting coz thats exactly what it looked like.

Lord Awkward
Feb 16, 2012

Darkest Auer posted:

I would also like to say that even though I'm shitposting I'm actually really impressed how good everything is looking

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Trainee PornStar posted:

Now the heating is kinda working doesn't that mean things are down to 'snagging' ?
A building at work went up & had about 10 folders full of 'snagging'.

i assume 'snagging' mean poo poo thats currently not working/has issues & needs sorting coz thats exactly what it looked like.

Sounds like what we'd call the punchlist in my industry. When we say "we're done!", then the client inspects things and says "the gently caress you are, this list of issues isn't per design/contract. Fix them and we'll check again"

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

and the contractor has already moved on to their next project and has most of your money so getting those last dozen small fixes done takes 2x longer than the entire project took up to that point

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Trainee PornStar posted:

Now the heating is kinda working doesn't that mean things are down to 'snagging' ?
A building at work went up & had about 10 folders full of 'snagging'.

i assume 'snagging' mean poo poo thats currently not working/has issues & needs sorting coz thats exactly what it looked like.

Yep, that's what a snag list is. Little stuff that's not quite right.

Leperflesh posted:

and the contractor has already moved on to their next project and has most of your money so getting those last dozen small fixes done takes 2x longer than the entire project took up to that point

Oh if only they waited until *after* the end before doing that rather than 2/3rds through.

Muir
Sep 27, 2005

that's Doctor Brain to you

Jaded Burnout posted:

Yep, that's what a snag list is. Little stuff that's not quite right.

Here in the US I've heard it called a punch list.

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Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


"Snagging" also prevents the building being considered complete, which can be important as there's some differences in tax treatment between work on a new building that's not yet finished and repairs / maintenance on a completed build.

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