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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1763607096103428393 yeah. there is alot of weird 40k level "if aliens exist, they are monster goetic demons from hell" poo poo from evangelical right, its really really weird.
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It became Christian canon when the Pope formally defined the Abduction of Mary
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1763607096103428393 The full context is way crazier. I thought they were just talking about some kind of weird supplemental to the already existing UFO bill Congress passed in 2022. They are talking about some kind of Christian conspiracy theory about angels and asking the air force to search for UFOs that might be angels. quote:Rep. Eric Burlison (R-MO), one of Luna's saucer-chasing partners in Congress, thinks UFOs could be "angels... messengers of God."
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Maybe the angels don't want USAF fighter jets shadowing them in the sky, seems risky. zoux fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Mar 1, 2024 |
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gently caress, the lunatics really are running the asylum in the GOP, full stop.
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Maybe she thinks "aliens" is a harmful term because it makes them sound like those filthy illegals.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. there is alot of weird 40k level "if aliens exist, they are monster goetic demons from hell" poo poo from evangelical right, its really really weird. I have a few UFO believer publications from the early 90s, and there are a number of, uh, accounts that talk about there being good and evil aliens. As in, the person says they were in the process of being abducted by shadow people when essentially a classic gray alien (but tall and shining with golden light) brandished a flaming sword and drove away the evil ones. Then the good alien took him up to the starship and showed him the world, and said good is destined to triumph over evil so have faith and courage and do good where you can. I'm at work so I can't check the details, but this is the general idea. As far as I can tell, it's basically C S Lewis logic: Jesus died for everyone's sins everywhere, so of course there are Christians and anti-Christians on other planets. The rest is a reflection of the individual, whether they're bigoted and insane or just insane, etc. As you said really, really weird. There's also the branch of white supremacists who believe Aryans came from another planet, while brown people are from earth. Yes, they explicitly frame themselves as the colonizer.
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There is as much likelihood that UFOs are aliens or angels, probably zero. UFO believers are as self deluding as Christians.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. there is alot of weird 40k level "if aliens exist, they are monster goetic demons from hell" poo poo from evangelical right, its really really weird. Why would anyone who believed that WANT to find aliens? Same as if you thought they were angels. If you truly, honestly thought they were messengers sent from either Heaven or Hell then the objectively correct move would be "leave them alone" not "spend thousands of dollars of tax payer money trying to harass them."
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It's all true, as shown in the documentary film Signs
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The full context is way crazier. yeah, giant eye ringed thing doing fly overs. Space Cadet Omoly posted:Why would anyone who believed that WANT to find aliens? Same as if you thought they were angels. If you truly, honestly thought they were messengers sent from either Heaven or Hell then the objectively correct move would be "leave them alone" not "spend thousands of dollars of tax payer money trying to harass them." i mean id be cool with any of those entities existed because then "we are not alone" but yeah, i wouldnt chase down an angel or demon with a jet.
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Mar 1, 2024 18:51
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Jesus III posted:There is as much likelihood that UFOs are aliens or angels, probably zero. UFO believers are as self deluding as Christians. Thank you for your insight. Space Cadet Omoly posted:Why would anyone who believed that WANT to find aliens? Same as if you thought they were angels. If you truly, honestly thought they were messengers sent from either Heaven or Hell then the objectively correct move would be "leave them alone" not "spend thousands of dollars of tax payer money trying to harass them." Well, if monsters exist and they're dangerous, you want to know about them so you can fight them. If angels exist, you want to know about them to make sure you're on their side. That part seems pretty consistent. I guess. Ultimately, though, most of this stuff is just people using magical thinking to apply pareidolia to a nebulous body of fears and emotional hangups. The shapes they see in their inner shadows are a reflection of the media and culture they were exposed to in their formative years, and/or what kind of environment they were in when the screws came loose. Even the psychopath grifters ime do a weird kind of free association to actually come up with the content. It's like speaking in tongues, but in pictures that are then put in words. They aren't consciously aware of why they came up with the original foundation. Introspecting on that question is an ego threat.
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Some of y'all never read The Salvation War and it shows
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I never thought UFOs - let alone 'UFOs are demons' - would become a partisan issue but here we are.
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Jesus III posted:There is as much likelihood that UFOs are aliens or angels, probably zero. UFO believers are as self deluding as Christians. Amazing post / username combo here, thanks
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Not too surprising to see the mix of religious beliefs in UFOs showing up. I read a couple books a few years ago talking about the connection between UFOs as a religion and folklore. American Cosmic by D.W. Pasulka and Passport to Magonia by Jaques Vallee. Seems like there's a strain of UFO belief that is more religious and another that is more material.
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I hope aliens are real and are actually just Asari
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Thank you for your insight. Your welcome. I have to deal with both UFO and religious believers. I wish we would stop wastng government time on this crap. All it does is bring out the loonies.
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Mar 1, 2024 18:59
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I hope aliens blow up earth to build a bypass
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Dapper_Swindler posted:this. this is for alot of the moderates who are for some sort of border control/etc and are open to conservative bullshit. folks like my dad, and yeah just like the poll said, they get pissed when the GOP talks big game and etc but imdietly ducks out of doing something because trump said so. I dont care for the bill though it could be way worse, but tying its death to trump and the GOP and biden telling trump "hey, why dont you help me pass this since you talk so much big poo poo" will probably help biden here That's also specifically the demographic polls keep showing are least enthusiastic about Biden and the issue they're most critical of Biden about vs. Trump, so it makes good sense to sell to the squishy middle how much Republicans don't even care about their own pet issues even if it's not a bill I want to see pass.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah, giant eye ringed thing doing fly overs. Exactly, biblically accurate angels rule and I'd enjoy seeing them floating around on earth because they have a rad as Hell aesthetic, but my first impulse would also be "I should leave that thing alone". Blue Footed Booby posted:Thank you for your insight. I guess in my mind Angels and Demons are different from regular monsters? Like, I can understand wanting to capture Bigfoot or Nessie for science, but the Bible makes it very clear that messing around with Angels is a bad idea.
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God and aliens makes for some almighty out-of this world cope. It's just another story that's more interesting than reality, and gives us a way out. Same as how people will talk about the "illuminati", but when you equate that to global markets and capital they insist its far more insidious. It's not, it's just more fantastical.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Exactly, biblically accurate angels rule and I'd enjoy seeing them floating around on earth because they have a rad as Hell aesthetic, but my first impulse would also be "I should leave that thing alone". Nobody in the GOP has read any part of the Bible in almost 100 years.
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Killer robot posted:That's also specifically the demographic polls keep showing are least enthusiastic about Biden and the issue they're most critical of Biden about vs. Trump, so it makes good sense to sell to the squishy middle how much Republicans don't even care about their own pet issues even if it's not a bill I want to see pass. yeah, it depends, my dad will probably vote biden either way because he wants to gop to "not be trumpists/nuts anymore" but yeah, it sadly helps alot of moderates. mind you i dont think its passing either way at this point, Space Cadet Omoly posted:Exactly, biblically accurate angels rule and I'd enjoy seeing them floating around on earth because they have a rad as Hell aesthetic, but my first impulse would also be "I should leave that thing alone". i mean it kinda depends on your concepts of angels and demons. are we talking like eldrich horrors of unspikable power and cunning that collect souls or are we talking lonely owl twinks and a hell thats basicaly just here but more of crab bucket and everyones some stripe of furry. BRJurgis posted:God and aliens makes for some almighty out-of this world cope. I like to think there is some greater stuff out there thats benifecent but yeah, i dont think its any kinda of religion or whatever.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Exactly, biblically accurate angels rule and I'd enjoy seeing them floating around on earth because they have a rad as Hell aesthetic, but my first impulse would also be "I should leave that thing alone". Has anyone ever made a horror movie where the monster is a biblically accurate angel, and the twist is that the main character is the unknowing second coming of Christ, and the people the monster killed were people that wronged the main character (knowingly or unknowingly)?
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Exactly, biblically accurate angels rule and I'd enjoy seeing them floating around on earth because they have a rad as Hell aesthetic, but my first impulse would also be "I should leave that thing alone". also their isnt really a bibilically accurate angel. its more angels have no form outside "light" or something and then take on the forum they need. some have a general forum they use alot but idk its all bullshit and mostly based on weird jewish folk apocrapha, same as demons.
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Randalor posted:Has anyone ever made a horror movie where the monster is a biblically accurate angel, and the twist is that the main character is the unknowing second coming of Christ, and the people the monster killed were people that wronged the main character (knowingly or unknowingly)? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4ctrYrCfes i believe this sorta.
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Randalor posted:Has anyone ever made a horror movie where the monster is a biblically accurate angel, and the twist is that the main character is the unknowing second coming of Christ, and the people the monster killed were people that wronged the main character (knowingly or unknowingly)? Yes. It was called Legion and Dennis Quaid was in it.
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gurragadon posted:Not too surprising to see the mix of religious beliefs in UFOs showing up. I read a couple books a few years ago talking about the connection between UFOs as a religion and folklore. American Cosmic by D.W. Pasulka and Passport to Magonia by Jaques Vallee. Seems like there's a strain of UFO belief that is more religious and another that is more material. I mean I feel like the religious strain is very simple: "Existence/proof of aliens basically blows up my entire religious identity.... so might as well steal them and try to retcon them into my insanity!"
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USCE 2024: I hope aliens are real and are actually just Asarigurragadon posted:Not too surprising to see the mix of religious beliefs in UFOs showing up. I read a couple books a few years ago talking about the connection between UFOs as a religion and folklore. American Cosmic by D.W. Pasulka and Passport to Magonia by Jaques Vallee. Seems like there's a strain of UFO belief that is more religious and another that is more material. Yeah UFOs/aliens are just the new will-o-the-wisps/faeries.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4ctrYrCfes Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Yes. It was called Legion and Dennis Quaid was in it. Huh, neat! Not quite what I was picturing for a horror film, but close enough on intent. Was it any good? I might check it out if it's not horrible.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:... and everyones some stripe of furry. I was confused by this until I scrolled back up and saw the avatar lol. Jesus III posted:Your welcome. I wish these fuckers would just fund SETI or something. Randalor posted:Huh, neat! Not quite what I was picturing for a horror film, but close enough on intent. Was it any good? I might check it out if it's not horrible. Good is not the word I'd use, but I was entertained
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Randalor posted:Huh, neat! Not quite what I was picturing for a horror film, but close enough on intent. Was it any good? I might check it out if it's not horrible. No, it's terribly paced. It has about 10 minutes of visually interesting horror, then 40 minutes of dialogue inside the diner preceding 5 minutes of interesting horror, followed by 2 minutes of boring horror, and then it ends. There is another hour of completely forgettable filler spaced in between all of that. The twist is that they think it's demons, but God has given up on humanity and they are all actually biblical angels sent down to cull mankind and the second coming. I can't remember much else about the movie except that there is a character named "Jeep" and the angels inexplicably have the power to turn blood into acid. I have saved you two hours. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Mar 1, 2024 |
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Not sure if this was posted here yet or not, but this is pretty funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEtDq7VLQFE
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I was confused by this until I scrolled back up and saw the avatar lol. lol. I mean my view of hell has always been either a Private prison for god or a crab bucket society of humans and presumbly demons all loving each other over. with the devil or whatever. my view was always closer to the muslim/job view, where he is a lovely dickhead prosicutor who tried to nudge in directions without directly doing so he can gently caress you over after your dead and most of his fight with god/whatever is because he thinks humanity is a lovely creation and he wants to prove it. i think its also all bullshit but thats more interesting to think about then the american evangelical psycho poo poo.
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Cimber posted:Not sure if this was posted here yet or not, but this is pretty funny. I think there are alot of folks like that who just keep quiet about politics because they want to make sweet with more right wing people or dont care about politcs in general.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:No, it's terribly paced. It has about 10 minutes of visually interesting horror, then 40 minutes of dialogue inside the diner preceding 5 minutes of interesting horror, followed by 2 minutes of boring horror, and then it ends. I watched it with a few friends back when I was in high school in an empty theater (except for my poor mother who had volunteered to let us see an R-rated movie) and we were constantly riffing on how awful it was. This is the only way I would recommend watching this film.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:the american evangelical psycho poo poo. Patrick Bateman pointing at a Bible and asking Paul if he ever read 2nd Corinthians.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I watched it with a few friends back when I was in high school in an empty theater (except for my poor mother who had volunteered to let us see an R-rated movie) and we were constantly riffing on how awful it was. This is the only way I would recommend watching this film. Oh, yeah, I should have mentioned I watched it with friends and we were all drunk and high. Pretty much any movie recommendation I give should be taken with this caveat.
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A Rick has hit the three Johns, I repeat, a Rick has hit the three Johns. A little weird that members of Florida's congressional delegation are joining him for this announcement, but I can't think of anything it could be other than Rick Scott running for Senate Leadership. https://twitter.com/JacobRubashkin/status/1763587119044309441
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