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MorningMoon posted:I would not be surprised if Blackbeard knows what the One Piece is to a degree. Like what the nature of it is (a secret of the world, a weapon, a prophecy, a special ship, whatever) and from that knowledge he works backwards to have all the knowledge/spoilers to ease his master plan. Blackbeard ultimately defeated cause he went on a boring adventure like that.
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MorningMoon posted:I would not be surprised if Blackbeard knows what the One Piece is to a degree. Like what the nature of it is (a secret of the world, a weapon, a prophecy, a special ship, whatever) and from that knowledge he works backwards to have all the knowledge/spoilers to ease his master plan. Blackbeard has a degree in One Piece? That's nuts.
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i don't see how he could know what it is. He was too young when the whitebeard/roger pirates fought each other and that was before they reached Laugh Tale anyway. There are only 2 known living members of the Roger pirates and Crocus clearly wasn't well known since he hasn't been hassled by the marines. Of course there are other members around but who they actually are is probably something of a secret. Its different from the superweapons in terms of being available knowledge for sure. I am curious as to whether he'll get access to them because they've been hyped up enough you'd think they would be in the story proper rather than the flash back of the void century and it seems far more likely he gets them than anyone else. Though I'm still on the Big Egg the roger pirates have being uranus
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Mar 2, 2024 19:38
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a very brotherly, lengthy flashback that made me cry
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I think blackbeard just wants power and doesn’t care who he steps on to get it
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Augus posted:I think blackbeard just wants power and doesn’t care who he steps on to get it its stated a couple of times he wants to rule the world and also he named his ship after xebec who also wanted to do that
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Mar 2, 2024 19:56
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like I don’t think anything he’s done indicates he has some deeper knowledge of what the One Piece is, I think he’s just constantly jumping on the next opportunity to expand his strength and influence
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Mar 2, 2024 20:22
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Blackbeard may be an opportunist but he has some kind of plan in the works. He specifically went after the Yami Yami Fruit for a reason.
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Yeah, the fact that he waited for decades as a no-name grunt in Whitebeard's crew on the off-chance that he would one day see that fruit is crazy. His plan seems so specific and calculated that I feel like he must have either inherited it or devised it based on a treasure trove of info he somehow gained access to.
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Mar 2, 2024 21:25
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I've made it to the timeskip and I'm wondering if BB is going to keep instantly losing every fight he tries to pick with somebody
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Meowywitch posted:I've made it to the timeskip and I'm wondering if BB is going to keep instantly losing every fight he tries to pick with somebody Ask whitebeard and Ace
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Mar 2, 2024 21:59
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He kicked Shank’s rear end once so he was at least lord of the coast tier when he was younger
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Yeah for all people talking about Shanks being strong, at one point Blackbeard beat him and left one hell of a mark.
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Mar 2, 2024 22:14
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Blackbeard's won every fight he's been in (eventually (with help))
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Mar 2, 2024 22:19
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We know he wants to create a government aligned nation and be it's king.
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Assume that's a means to an end though. He wants the legitimacy of running a WG aligned nation so he can leverage it towards some kind of takeover.
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MonsterEnvy posted:We know he wants to create a government aligned nation and be it's king. i feel like the real reason he wanted that was so that, as king, he could attend the reverie and from there attempt to approach the gorosei. why he would want to do that is a mystery still, but i think it ties back to his devil fruit see, luffys fruit is considered weird and kinda useless, and was covered up. the yami yami isnt considered nearly so lowly, but its still a strange fruit that requires you to take damage and put yourself in harms way to use effectively, and the initially presented juice of it being able to handle logias isnt really worth that squeeze in a world where haki exists. why bring up luffys fruit? because blackbeards is physically nearly identical to it. of all the fruit we have been shown so far both in story and in sbs responses, no fruit have ever looked anywhere near as close to each other as the nika fruit and the yami fruit. i think this goes beyond just luffy and blackbeard being parallels, i think that basically if luffy has the popeye fruit blackbeard has the bluto fruit. luffy is able to inspire, to bring freedom and liberation. blackbeard locks you down and turns off your powers, powers we have been directly told is the inherited will from a bygone era, the subtext that peoples hopes and dreams and loves and fears somehow became these fruit. and he turns those off entirely. imagine the despair that being limited and diminished like that would bring. one must imagine a moon god to oppose a sun god, right?
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If imu is the inverse of Luffy, I still wonder if Blackbeard is a character from a different person who wanted to rule the world. I still think it’s Rocks but what if it was something like a different incarnation of Joy Boy?
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Meowywitch posted:I've made it to the timeskip and I'm wondering if BB is going to keep instantly losing every fight he tries to pick with somebody BB getting completely wrecked in every fight he picks is what makes him awesome.
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Terper posted:Blackbeard's won every fight he's been in (eventually (with help))
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Eiba posted:Magellan? Unfair reference as only the toilet can defeat him.
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U-DO Burger posted:BB getting completely wrecked in every fight he picks is what makes him awesome. Yeah, I legit think it's great that he's not some seemingly impervious force like Big Mom and Kaido were, even if he (almost) always comes out on top of his fights he takes a severe beating in the process and has no compunctions about squealing in pain because getting hurt sucks!
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PuttyKnife posted:Unfair reference as only the toilet can defeat him. Even better, only Magellan can defeat Magellan.
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Meowywitch posted:I've made it to the timeskip and I'm wondering if BB is going to keep instantly losing every fight he tries to pick with somebody Its his charm point.
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Meowywitch posted:I've made it to the timeskip and I'm wondering if BB is going to keep instantly losing every fight he tries to pick with somebody PuttyKnife posted:If imu is the inverse of Luffy, I still wonder if Blackbeard is a character from a different person who wanted to rule the world.
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Eiba posted:Magellan?  utterly trounced by blackbeard (eventually (with help))
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I do wonder if Luffy grabbing Blackbeard would let Blackbeard negate His fruit or if it requires his hands like a lot of fruits clearly do
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Most other villains are essentially a static target that Luffy has to reach, and thus will generally win every fight we see them take to hype them up. I'd argue Blackbeard is treated more like Luffy, where he is (or at least was, previously) a scrappy and ambitious underdog who takes difficult fights to advance towards his goal. The reason Blackbeard works as a threat to me is less that he's a seemingly invincible wall like Kaido and more that every time we see him he's grown stronger and has more powerful allies - who knows where he'll be when Luffy finally takes him on? Makes me wonder if there are 2 D clans and we just haven’t learned it yet. Dawn and Dusk.
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https://x.com/bkub_comic/status/1764076730099319226?s=20
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Okay so last week someone definitely linked a tweet which was Luffy pushing together Kizaru and Saturn and saying “now kiss” and it’s hilariously close to what happened. EDIT: Found it: https://twitter.com/peixeaquatico/status/1761078919518712068?t=JdxhCggWHVJ4j3cih0hOjA&s=19 Real Cool Catfish fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Mar 3, 2024 |
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Terper posted:
This was just code for "He is in the shitter again" I really hope that whatever the broadcast is, that the second half is somehow accidently hijacked of Buggy declaring that the Cross Guild is going after the One Piece for most of the world. So the people in the immediate area get some more lore, but the majority of the world is pissed that it's the same guy that kept cutting to himself during Marineford.
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Paper Lion posted:i feel like the real reason he wanted that was so that, as king, he could attend the reverie and from there attempt to approach the gorosei. why he would want to do that is a mystery still, but i think it ties back to his devil fruit 
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MorningMoon posted:I would not be surprised if Blackbeard knows what the One Piece is to a degree. Like what the nature of it is (a secret of the world, a weapon, a prophecy, a special ship, whatever) and from that knowledge he works backwards to have all the knowledge/spoilers to ease his master plan. blackbeard absolutely has a tankobon of one piece in his pocket and its the one that explains devil fruit rules in too mich detail
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so much that doesnt make sense in one piece starts making a lot of sense with this theory, especially in egghead
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a guy who completely randomly intuitionally stumbles upon the exact personality to have in this version of reality to essentially be god vs. the guy who cannot do any of that stuff by accident but has the very very specific script in his pocket
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Blackbeard is Gary Oak to Luffy's Ash Ketchum
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scary ghost dog posted:a guy who completely randomly intuitionally stumbles upon the exact personality to have in this version of reality to essentially be god vs. the guy who cannot do any of that stuff by accident but has the very very specific script in his pocket Blackbeard is a big believer in fate.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Blackbeard is a big believer in fate. yeah cuz thats what it says in the script. you ask him, hes just reading his lines
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