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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1764721423178682641 Lord of Light. Or Isle of the Dead. Night in the Lonesome October.
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Imagine the message boards and tines of A Fire Upon the Deep
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zoux posted:Film studios always chase trends, so what unfilmable scif/fantasy epics would you like to see Hollywood drop $250m on? Gene Wolfe estate's phone is blowing up. My mind does boggle that good adaptations of Dune and Shogun are both coming out right now. I want a good adaptation of Neuromancer. Apple TV are working on one but it might disappoint. Sanderson stuff is ripe for adaptation, Mistborn era 1 is a completed trilogy. Any Robin Hobb trilogy.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Lord of Light. Or Isle of the Dead. Night in the Lonesome October. Lord of Light would rule, but I will support this only if they do the Jack Kirby designs. I refuse to support the Dune Movie-ification of one of the most stylish sci-fi novels ever, where in TYOOL 2024 they're somehow making the far future look boring. Kestral fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Mar 5, 2024 |
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Kestral posted:Lord of Light would rule, but I will support this only if they do the Jack Kirby designs. I refuse to support the Dune Movie-ification of one of the most stylish sci-fi novels ever, where in TYOOL 2024 they're somehow making the far future look boring. "Jack Kirby Lord of Light" is one of the pro-est image searches you can do.
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mllaneza posted:"Jack Kirby Lord of Light" is one of the pro-est image searches you can do. It really, really is. I would also accept Jubjubjedi's versions.   
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mewse posted:I want a good adaptation of Neuromancer. Apple TV are working on one but it might disappoint. I really love that stuff, the Sprawl shorts, I'm in the middle of Neuromancer right now. I was just thinking the other day how I think maybe it wouldn't be great on film. Like when he describes that guy Angelo on page 59, who looks a bit like a shark, and lots of talk of grafts and these wild faces etc. To me it's almost written like we're not supposed to see it. How cheesy might it be if we did see everything described? By that I mean, the writing sells it like a pulpy world where this is commonplace. An effects heavy movie rendering these characters might have a very different vibe. Also, kind of like with Chandler, the tight narration and the writing in general, that hard boiled stuff and the beauty of the language. It would all be left out of an adaptation right? So, I'm sure there could be a cool movie/show that happens to be a loose adaptation of Neuromancer, but it doesn't seem like one that jumps out as a great candidate artistically to me. It's in the medium that best suits it I think. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Mar 5, 2024 |
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zoux posted:Film studios always chase trends, so what unfilmable scif/fantasy epics would you like to see Hollywood drop $250m on? Gene Wolfe estate's phone is blowing up. I'd pay good money to see a studio gently caress up Startide Rising.
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Heavy Metal posted:I really love that stuff, the Sprawl shorts, I'm in the middle of Neuromancer right now. I was just thinking the other day how I think maybe it wouldn't be great on film. Like when he describes that guy Angelo on page 59, who looks a bit like a shark, and lots of talk of grafts and these wild faces etc. To me it's almost written like we're not supposed to see it. How cheesy might it be if it we did see everything described? By that I mean, the writing sells it like a pulpy world where this is commonplace. An effects heavy movie rendering these characters might have a very different vibe. So I never saw Johnny Mnemonic until recently and I had a really weird feeling because I could see in the writing that there was a story I would really enjoy, it was just surrounded by so much total garbage acting and set design, and costume design, and everything else that goes into a film. I was sort of stunned at how completely they could take a good story and ruin it. And that's what we saw repeatedly with the Dune adaptations before Villeneuve took it on - either the production team lacked skill, or they lacked the budget, or they were just missing something to bring the story faithfully to the screen in a way that would resonate with the viewer. And there's so much stuff in the Dune universe that can look goofy, the ornithopters are helicopters with dragonfly wings but Villeneuve was able to get them looking plausible. The stillsuits were comically bad in the Lynch adaptation. Etc etc etc. So like the argument that something is "unfilmable" has been fairly conclusively proven wrong by this Dune adaptation destroying the box office. It needs the right production team and budget etc but anything is possible. Neuromancer is really a heist story at its bones, just with a healthy serving of noir techno dystopia. All this being said I already have the feeling that the upcoming Murderbot adaptation is going to be dogshit.
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I know it's all subjective, and for sure a loose adaptation losing a lot of details might be a cool thing as its own work. I was just sharing how I kinda feel these characters looks might be better in imagination, for the tone intended, I dunno. That said, I think the aesthetics of David Lynch's Dune are great, and I agree with that other poster, I find the look of the new Dune (pt 1) to be pretty uninteresting. But that's all just taste of course. To me this Dune feels very I guess Nolan-y, what is currently considered cool. But I just don't happen to find this current cool to be cool, oh well for me, but I'll still give part 2 a try. Very "bweeeeeeow" trailer sound kind of movie, y'know post Inception kind of trying to be cool thing. Well hey the people dig it, just not my thing I guess. Luck of the draw what director and what vibe a thing will go for.
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Even as much as I've enjoyed the Villeneuve Dune movies, I'm still skeptical about the upcoming HBO Max series about the origin of the Bene Gesserit. But I'd absolutely love Villeneuve doing Messiah and Children, give us the god emperor!!
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Villeneuve being a huge Dune fan is cool, he was apparently storyboarding the movie in the 80s as a personal project. Don't know if that was before or after the Lynch adaption. Probably never expected to be able to actually make one of his own.
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zoux posted:Film studios always chase trends, so what unfilmable scif/fantasy epics would you like to see Hollywood drop $250m on? Gene Wolfe estate's phone is blowing up.
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RDM posted:If you think there isn't a starship troopers remake in the works you're crazy. the funniest starship troopers remake would be one that adapts the source material non-ironically and bombs like morbius, then gets re-released and bombs again like morbius
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I remember how pained I felt when I found out that the Culture adaptation had fallen through.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:This is one of the two reasons why the only people I've seen write good steampunk (present company excepted to the extent such terms may apply) have been China mieville and Michael swanwyck. They both realize it should be fantasy not science fiction. (The other reason is they both realize you can't write Victorian fiction without tackling issues of social class, capitalism, and imperialism head on). Can you throw in a recommend? i remember reading vacuum flowers years ago but no steampunk, like you i haven't found much steampunk that is satisfying and am keen try something better
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Doktor Avalanche posted:robert jackson bennett's new book (first in a series) is out trip report: i really liked it. bit of murder mystery, bit of body horror, bit of widescale corruption in an empire falling apart. i liked it more the city of stairs
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zoux posted:Film studios always chase trends, so what unfilmable scif/fantasy epics would you like to see Hollywood drop $250m on? Gene Wolfe estate's phone is blowing up. blindsight, but the script is written by joss whedon
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zoux posted:Film studios always chase trends, so what unfilmable scif/fantasy epics would you like to see Hollywood drop $250m on? Gene Wolfe estate's phone is blowing up. The Night Land.
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A Neuromancer adaptation would require a leading man that looked like a short speedfreak to work, good luck, Iggy Pop aged out and never had the chops. Although after Dunc2 and the preview for that tennis movie I’m starting to think that Zendaya could work as Molly. Any Hollywood insiders know if Jordan Peele’s adaptation went anyplace? I know (read or was told or made up) that the Get Out character was named Wintermute in tribute. Stainless Steel Rat is just about a perfect series that could go on forever on a constantly diminishing budget, just like the books kept going with less effort and attention by the author. This is not a joke I really believe it. redleader posted:blindsight, but the script is written by joss whedon Because you won at posting.
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If we're doing steampunk, Tim Powers would own. Maybe The Anubis Gates? And whichever James Blaylock had the itinerant squid-seller. Both Powers and Blaylock were weird, in a way that a lot of modern steampunk doesn't achieve.
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zoux posted:Film studios always chase trends, so what unfilmable scif/fantasy epics would you like to see Hollywood drop $250m on? Gene Wolfe estate's phone is blowing up. Culture series. Player of the Games could be almost filmable.
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redleader posted:blindsight, but the script is written by joss whedon
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branedotorg posted:trip report: i really liked it. bit of murder mystery, bit of body horror, bit of widescale corruption in an empire falling apart. i liked it more the city of stairs If you fancy an alternate history version of this, I just finished Francis Spufford's Cahokia Jazz and it's excellent. The basic plot is a murder investigation set in 1922 in an America where smallpox didn't devastate the indigenous people before the Europeans started to arrive in large numbers, in a majority indigenous city on the Mississippi. I won't give you any plot spoilers, but there's a brief appearance from Ursula le Guin's father in his role as an anthropologist, too.
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branedotorg posted:Can you throw in a recommend? i remember reading vacuum flowers years ago but no steampunk, like you i haven't found much steampunk that is satisfying and am keen try something better Iron Dragon's Daughter. Only parts of the book are good, but those parts are good enough.
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If we’re talking unfilmable, let David Lynch make God-Emperor of Dune. It’s the Dune movie he was supposed to make.
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Kalman posted:The Night Land. But only the frame narrative, everything else is shot but then shitcanned by zaslav as a tax write off.
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The stars my destination is the correct answer for sf novels that are ripe for movie adaptation. Everything else seems more doable in a series format, especially The Culture books. Lord of light would be bonkers, I just don’t think movie cgi could do the visuals justice, needs to be animation.get the guys who did season one of one punch man.
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I don't think Dune part two was as good as part one. It feels like more of an action movie, it's a lot messier, and it's too long. Zendaya is terrible; I don't get her deal, is she a singer or something?
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:But only the frame narrative, everything else is shot but then shitcanned by zaslav as a tax write off. Don’t you put a cursed idea like this out into the world, Hieronymous 
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The Villeneuve Dune films are good but let's not pretend they didn't get around the books being "unfilmable" by cutting out anything that could be called "unfilmable".
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PriorMarcus posted:The Villeneuve Dune films are good but let's not pretend they didn't get around the books being "unfilmable" by cutting out anything that could be called "unfilmable". That's true but then the achievement is in doing this and still producing a coherent film while still conveying the feel of the things that were cut. I think they do a good job of the former but they do smooth off the edges a bit too much
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People gave the original Dune endless poo poo for having a rushed ending, but when this movie does the exact same thing it's suddenly fine?
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thotsky posted:People gave the original Dune endless poo poo for having a rushed ending, but when this movie does the exact same thing it's suddenly fine? og dune movie was extremely bad i feel like i'm being gaslit
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Hell, I would have said the Foundation trilogy was unfilmable given how much of Asimov's work is just people standing around talking.
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Selachian posted:Hell, I would have said the Foundation trilogy was unfilmable given how much of Asimov's work is just people standing around talking. I've not watched it but I get the impression they solved the unfilmability problem by making a nearly unrelated series with some shared names and calling it Foundation
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sebmojo posted:og dune movie was extremely bad i feel like i'm being gaslit unironically one of my favorite movies
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Qwertycoatl posted:I've not watched it but I get the impression they solved the unfilmability problem by making a nearly unrelated series with some shared names and calling it Foundation This is broadly true, Lee pace carries the whole thing on his back, with a little help from Jared Harris and Laura Birn, who are both good.season one is a bit of a mess but you can see every dollar on screen, season 2 is more focused but still a slog in parts.still a better show than halo!
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