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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

so i watched dreamgirls last night and the ideology is really weird initially the movie correctly identifies that the reason the dreamgirls cant even so much as win an amateur music competition is because the system is rigged against them so jamie foxx first talks them into being backup singers for eddie murphy and then when racism allows white people to steal their music jamie foxx comes up with an elaborate plan to defeat racism with gambling and bribery that works so well and so easily its relegated to a montage

racism having apparently been solved jamie foxx himself becomes the villain first by saying that jennifer hudson is too fat to be the lead singer and then by cheating on jennifer hudson with another one of the dreamgirls although the whole sequence is edited in such a way i wasnt completely sure whether he was actually cheating on her or if she was just being a primadonna since the climax of all that is jamie foxx firing jennifer hudson from the team because shes been a pain in the rear end to work with for several months at that point

now when i say that racism has been solved im only being kind of facetious the thing that turns the rest of the cast against jamie foxx is that he doesnt want to do message songs so bad things are happening but why bad things are happening is kept really vague the detroit riot is summarized as just a bunch of yahoos in the streets with pickup trucks firing guns in the air by contrast jamie foxx is personally responsible for pretty much every bad thing that happens to anyone his crass commercialist attitude drives eddie murphy to commit suicide and sabotages jennifer hudsons attempt at a solo career

in order to finally defeat the evil jamie foxx once and for all the other characters reveal that theyve been keeping the receipts on him this whole time and know that his plan to defeat racism was mostly just payola so they threaten to rat him out to the fbi if he doesnt knock stop crushing their dreams or whatever so basically all of the other conflicts of the movie are completely forgotten at this point the music industry is totally meritocratic and all the material conditions that caused the dreamgirls to sign up with jamie foxx in the first place just dont even exist anymore

the dreamgirls musical (which predates the movie) is a fairly popular standard in south korea and finally seeing this movie again for the first time since it was almost new i can see why its a fairly classic bootstraps story that acknowledges the bare minimum existence of racism without going so far as to imply its structural indeed it pretty much does the opposite of that actually since the means of production are only corrupted by jamie foxx having a weirdly specific cleopatra fetish in some of the most hilariously on the nose retrospective casting ive ever seen good meritocratic hollywood is represented by jim from the office playing a screenwriter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5zted2sMy0

anyway not socialist musics pretty rad tho

Some Guy TT has issued a correction as of 01:59 on Mar 7, 2024

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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

https://twitter.com/nationalpost/status/1765461626734497802

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


lol hell yeah

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
i dont understand this latest culture war fight and it seems to be largely one sided???

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Al! posted:

i dont understand this latest culture war fight and it seems to be largely one sided???

firmly, roundly two-sided, my friend. visible from the back, even

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

just looked at some boobs and I'm a chud now

aw frig aw dang it
Jun 1, 2018



I will not google "Dave Chappelle big naturals". Not again

CaptainBeefart
Mar 28, 2016



I've tits, biatch!

CaptainBeefart has issued a correction as of 02:51 on Mar 7, 2024

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Ah, “what if Michael Vick were white?” for a new generation.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Does "woke" hate breasts now??


Beginning to think these people don't have coherent ideology

brugroffil has issued a correction as of 12:25 on Mar 7, 2024

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Al! posted:

i dont understand this latest culture war fight and it seems to be largely one sided???
most of the time it is

this just seems like the conservative version of the liberals getting frothing mad about lady ghostbusters discourse over non-existent chuds

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002

So Harah got cut, everything about Fremen customs for Jamis death got cut, Denis decides he doesn’t want to deal with child actors so the entirety of the story has to unrealistically take place in 8 months instead of giving birth to Alia. As a result Paul’s first son with Chani and his death are cut, Christopher Walken casting completely wasted.

There is alot more I can complain about choices wise and I did enjoy the movie but I guess it’s just kind of sad realization that as an avid enjoyer of the novel I can never be fully satisfied by a film adaptation

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Scarabrae posted:

sad realization that as an avid enjoyer of the novel I can never be fully satisfied by a film adaptation
simple answer: just dont read books. i havent read dune and i loved dunc

not as good as BR2049 mind you, not even close, but villenueve puts out great late-night visual performance pieces that are great sober or on edibles.

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002

Blade Runner 2049 is the perfect film I love everything about that movie

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Scarabrae posted:

Blade Runner 2049 is the perfect film I love everything about that movie

:same:

Dune 2 was great, but I liked 2049 much more. It's my favorite.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

In 2014, Marty O’Donnell was fired from Bungie, which came as a shock given that he was credited as the famed composer behind the iconic Halo theme, and much of the music for Bungie’s new game, Destiny. Now, after ten years and many other controversies later, O’Donnell has just announced that he’s running for congress as a Republican in Nevada, challenging a Democratic incumbent.

If you’re expecting to find a logical throughline from there to here, you won’t, and this comes as kind of a surprise to well, everyone. O’Donnell launched his campaign late on Sunday night with a Twitter Blue-length post about why he was running, which included a lot of traditional Republican language:

“The sad reality is that many children in our country are suffering. Years of ridiculing and demeaning old fashioned “family values” have taken a toll. Our society’s strength, fundamentally linked to the vitality of the family structure, has been eroded. I want to champion the traditional family as critical for a child’s development and success.”

This positioning does not seem to surprise many who have worked with O’Donnell, who again, has a long, rocky history with his ex-employer Bungie, fired in 2014 after many disputes over the use of the game’s music and audio workload on the game. He sued and won back vested shares of stock. Then he and fellow composer Michael Salvatori sued Microsoft in 2020 over unpaid music royalties, which they settled in 2022. In 2021, O’Donnell was found in contempt of court for sharing music from the first Destiny game which was in violation of the original lawsuit after his firing, and he had to pay $100,000 for that. So in short, no, you probably won’t see many cheering on his campaign over at Bungie.

As for his political leanings, following his Twitter account has offered more than enough clues. As his candidacy was announced, some have been recirculating some of his recent, hardline pro-Israel tweets about the war in Gaza:

https://twitter.com/_bluejayyy_/status/1745840677504897129

In 2019 he was part of a right-wing movement to boycott Gillette when they ran a #MeToo-era ad about men pushing back on sexual harassment and bullying.

https://twitter.com/MartyTheElder/status/1085413244548927491

Does O’Donnell actually have a chance to win? It’s not impossible. If he won the Republican primary, he would face incumbent Democrat Susie Lee in a rather competitive district. Lee only won by four points over her Republican rival in 2022.

It’s been a mix of reactions to O’Donnell’s announcement. It feels like a split between those who know all O’Donnell’s backstory with Bungie and public statements and are upset or rolling their eyes about this, and those who just go “oh cool, the Halo composer!”

In an interview with Venturebeat it says “he hopes his own fame in gaming will help him.” Two paragraphs later, he states emphatically that he has voted for Trump twice and will vote for him a third time. The (bizarrely long and fluffy) Venturebeat profile also eventually gets to his stance on some issues which includes a lot of concerns about border control. The entire piece offers no elaboration about what the specifics of his “family values” and “traditional family” statements may imply.

So, for Bungie fans, this is a pretty weird development. But it is a competitive district and much stranger things have happened in politics the last decade in particular. Stay tuned, I suppose.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

brugroffil posted:

Does "woke" hate breasts now??


Beginning to think these people don't have content ideology

*norman Rockwell guy standing up meme* I'm woke and I like big tits

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china

the milk's gone bad

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

[Pop Culture] If Chappelle had Sweeney's buxom bust,

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

Scarabrae posted:

Blade Runner 2049 is the perfect film I love everything about that movie

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
Cramming Harrison Ford in was kind of lame but oh well, that's the fate of all the old popular stuff Ford was in.

Everything about the Joi storyline was basically perfect. That one woman calling in drone strikes while getting her nails done is something I think about a lot as well.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

1stGear posted:

Cramming Harrison Ford in was kind of lame but oh well, that's the fate of all the old popular stuff Ford was in.

Everything about the Joi storyline was basically perfect. That one woman calling in drone strikes while getting her nails done is something I think about a lot as well.

i liked the las vegas setting and everything but yeah ford was the only black mark on an otherwise flawless masterpiece. really shouldn't have brought him back

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
BOOBIES...... ARENT WOKE

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

Some Guy TT posted:

Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos…
I’ve met the dude and it’s impossible to overstate his loving riz level and how it fucks up anything near him. First time was 2012, and I wasn’t close enough to get personal attention but people I respected were, and they loving loved him. This was when everybody in Arrested Development showed up with at a BROADCASTING show, NAB, Netflix was directly trying to end broadcasting and everybody loved him, actors, engineers, station managers now unemployed, everybody.

Last year I shook his hand, looked him in the eye, and didn’t know why it took so long to meet m best friend. Thank God I had nothing to offer worth a follow-up.

1stGear posted:

Cramming Harrison Ford in was kind of lame but oh well, that's the fate of all the old popular stuff Ford was in.
2049 shared a weakness with Dunc2, the bad guys are just too bad, just too callous with human life. To me there are so many more chilling places to go, like a shrug, or an eye roll and a ‘help these days amirite?’, that would have been so much more chilling. or even an explicit ‘who cares?’.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

skooma512 posted:

Is that because of a contract/access journalism thing where he can't write a negative review?

It's just that I usually see that kind of thing from authoritarian countries, they can't say anything negative so they write perfunctory statements like that, or like anti-war protestors in Russia holding blank signs.

Kojima simply does not waste words on lesser experiences except to note their existence

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

I have a friend who kept going “I have this weird crush on a lady who isn’t like super conventionally pretty it’s weird” and that lady was Sydney Sweeney, leading all of us to go ????

but now it makes sense: he thought we were woke

DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019


Lol. Not going to read a loving National Post article so I jave no idea what this and the Chappelle comparison mean. Is Sweeney like super transphobic but nobody talks about it becauae she's got a badass rack?? Whatever

Telluric Whistler
Sep 14, 2008


DaysBefore posted:

Lol. Not going to read a loving National Post article so I jave no idea what this and the Chappelle comparison mean. Is Sweeney like super transphobic but nobody talks about it becauae she's got a badass rack?? Whatever

She wore a low cut dress and a Hooters uniform, which is how we destroy wokeness.

Cookie Cutter
Nov 29, 2020

Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

DaysBefore posted:

Lol. Not going to read a loving National Post article so I jave no idea what this and the Chappelle comparison mean. Is Sweeney like super transphobic but nobody talks about it becauae she's got a badass rack?? Whatever

The right is projecting what they want onto her, casting her as the new Marilyn Monroe to return to traditional beauty standards. In reality, she hasn't done anything other than just generally going about her business and crushing lots of varied roles, so so far it's a classic case of hot woman drives a bunch of idiots crazy simply by existing. Not to deny her actual burgeoning star power which I think she does have btw

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

Al! posted:

i dont understand this latest culture war fight and it seems to be largely one sided???

guys who like big tits vs guys who like all tits

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
None of this matters

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Aids cultural war poo poo

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Mr Hootington posted:

Aids cultural war poo poo

as soon as you start rebutting the argument you've accepted the terms of the framing. "The Left Doesn't Like Big Tits Vs Actually Yes We Do"

the only winning move is not to play. anyone who actually enjoys big naturals would be enjoying them, not arguing about it online.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Cookie Cutter posted:

The right is projecting what they want onto her, casting her as the new Marilyn Monroe to return to traditional beauty standards. In reality, she hasn't done anything other than just generally going about her business and crushing lots of varied roles, so so far it's a classic case of hot woman drives a bunch of idiots crazy simply by existing. Not to deny her actual burgeoning star power which I think she does have btw

Marilyn Monroe was famously woke, a woke pioneer.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Cookie Cutter posted:

The right is projecting what they want onto her, casting her as the new Marilyn Monroe to return to traditional beauty standards. In reality, she hasn't done anything other than just generally going about her business and crushing lots of varied roles, so so far it's a classic case of hot woman drives a bunch of idiots crazy simply by existing. Not to deny her actual burgeoning star power which I think she does have btw

Marilyn Monroe was famously woke, a woke pioneer. One of the wokest ladies of the era.

???

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Mr Hootington posted:

Aids cultural war poo poo

Yes that's the point of posting it. It's dumb. This is a website for making fun of dumb Internet stuff

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

KirbyKhan posted:

Marilyn Monroe was famously woke, a woke pioneer. One of the wokest ladies of the era.

???

Yes, but also Terry Pratchett hated trans people.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

PriorMarcus posted:

Yes, but also Terry Pratchett hated trans people.

You can say whatever you want about dead people, it owns

I've seen "JFK would have been a tea party guy"

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Cookie Cutter
Nov 29, 2020

Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

KirbyKhan posted:

Marilyn Monroe was famously woke, a woke pioneer. One of the wokest ladies of the era.

???

Hey its not me you need to convince

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