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Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Re that floor, I have much the same stuff. I put a thin underlay under it, it's supposed to also give a bit more spring which is kinder to your feet, but I don't think it's strictly necessary. I did it as a floating floor and despite being engineered, the instructions still said 10mm expansion gap all round.

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UCS Hellmaker
Mar 29, 2008
Toilet Rascal

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I've said before that the optimal house would have no visible storage but an ocado warehouse robot in the loft that would fetch whatever item and drop it through the ceiling to which ever grid square of the house needs it.

Legit there's that dude in California I think? The one physics dude that made a run of klien bottles that dude to run requirements decided to sell the surplus. He turned his crawlspace into the storage area and has thousands of the things stored under his house, and collects them via a remote controlled car that picks up the boxes and brings them back. Everything labeled and in sections. Absolutely insane and awesome

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


We've got very similar flooring (great choice imo, looks fantastic and is very practical). It does expand/contract a bit, it isn't really like plywood. We did one room ourselves floating, the pros did the big room and glued it down, both worked fine. I'd recommend an underlay for the floor feel but I think some types of glue are also meant to achieve a similar effect. If you mess up the joints a bit you can get this wood filler paste to put in small gaps and it's practically invisible.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
We got engineered oak throughout our open-plan downstairs, glued down. It's great, however our kitchen did flood which has caused a couple of bumpy expansion spots. Theyve pretty much gone down over the last few months by themselves though so hopefully it's all good with time.

So uhh try not to flood your house?

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


Lol, we did the same, figuring it was cheaper to do the same floor in the kitchen (making it just one job) than put tiles in, and we'll just replace that part with tiles if we ever need to. Haven't flooded it yet!

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Oh, and if you do tile on top of your UFH screed, make sure to use a decoupling mesh or whatever it’s called. Prevents the expansion and contraction of the screed from messing with your tiles.

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib
Really pleased you've got the heating to work. Well done.

Coupla things:
You need to use a special inhibitor in UFH systems with a biocide in it or something. Because it runs at lower temps than normal CH systems, there's a greater risk of mould growth blocking your pipes.
I had bamboo floor in the flat on an underlay. Because the pirate that did it couldn't use levelling screed to get a level surface, it had a poo poo load of bouncy points. We went for glued down in the new house. There's less cushioning, but also no patches that feel like a loving diving board. We splashed out for the posh manufacturer's recommended adhesives too, rather than a screwfix special. Definitely worth the money.
If your UFH screed is a calcium sulphate screed, some tile adhesives don't like it.

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Yeah. Not like to chuck out excuses or anything cos there really arent any big enough but yeah The initial foundation setback and covid basically shifted the entire build from quick and easy into long and laborious. The more time I had to stew, the more internet holes I could fall down and the more obnoxious I could make the whole build. There have been some other work/life/death issues that have also impacted things I guess. Also like I was just totally naïve about how long poo poo would take. Like I have spent the last almost full week just sellotaping. There was no week of sellotaping on the original Gannt chart and yet in reality this has been like the probably fourth full week of just sellotaping.

In life, as in software development, you take the engineering estimates and quadruple them. And then you're maybe getting decently close to how long it actually takes.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

This si for the bedroom wing. the great room wing will be the tiles or stone or whatever. What I havent figured out is if I should use an underlay or what? Like forums seem to suggest the underlay is about sound transmission which isnt really an issue on the ground floor. But I kind of think a slightly squishy underlay might be a useful thing to have to average out the imperfections in the screeded slab rather than trying to lay directly on it?

Also they seem to be suggesting you should glue this stuff down? I thought thse things were pretty uch exclusively done as floating floors? Hmmm.

Having recently done some flooring, I would highly recommend at least some underlay. Having no flex at all when walking around on wood is actually quite hard on your feet/legs over a long time.
I would also never glue plank floor down. I don't care what the manufacturer says. If you ever need to replace pieces or even just decide to change the floor you'll have a grand time scraping that up. Also we'll probably find out in 20 years that whatever adhesive you use gives you 5 kinds of cancer.

stoopiduk
Nov 11, 2021

NotJustANumber99 posted:

yeah its engineered oak

as in plywood sandwich with 3mm of oak glued on top.

I have the same but with a thicker top layer. Mine is nailed to the wooden floor beneath with 50mm flooring nails, so maybe you'll need to drive 5m piles through each length of yours. Best call the engineer.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


I’m gonna go on a big Husqvana rant in about an hour

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
the robot!

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

Jaded Burnout posted:

I’m gonna go on a big Husqvana rant in about an hour

:f5:

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


I meant to post that in my thread sorry, it is not relevant to proceedings here

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Unless something's gone seriously wrong with the geo fencing

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Hey who took my car, and why's there grass cuttings in the driveway

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Jaded Burnout posted:

I meant to post that in my thread sorry, it is not relevant to proceedings here

I'd like to read said rant, link plz..

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Trainee PornStar posted:

I'd like to read said rant, link plz..

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3824923&pagenumber=103#post538260334

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

nice one :)

Granite Octopus
Jun 24, 2008

I think i'm weird but i hate the hollow clacky sound of floating boards on concrete. i got the our floor glued down purely because of that. the special adhesive they want you to use is crazy expensive though.

devicenull
May 30, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Granite Octopus posted:

I think i'm weird but i hate the hollow clacky sound of floating boards on concrete. i got the our floor glued down purely because of that. the special adhesive they want you to use is crazy expensive though.

We have a floating wood floor on concrete with a 1/4 inch underlay and it's silent.

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.

Granite Octopus posted:

I think i'm weird but i hate the hollow clacky sound of floating boards on concrete. i got the our floor glued down purely because of that. the special adhesive they want you to use is crazy expensive though.

This is why underlay exists.

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak
I've got floorboards like that, installed by (not literally by, she hired someone) the previous owner. They're glued down and the floor feels great but there is a major downside. I've got a floorboard badly dinged up by furniture and replacing it would be a messy, time consuming pain in the rear end. If they weren't glued down I assume it would be a lot easier.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Splode posted:

I've got floorboards like that, installed by (not literally by, she hired someone) the previous owner. They're glued down and the floor feels great but there is a major downside. I've got a floorboard badly dinged up by furniture and replacing it would be a messy, time consuming pain in the rear end. If they weren't glued down I assume it would be a lot easier.

Still a huge PITA depending on where the board is in the room.

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

VelociBacon posted:

Still a huge PITA depending on where the board is in the room.

It's in the middle. I'm just going to leave it there forever.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


[Speedy Gonzales voice] Underlay! Underlay!

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Such a fuckin dad joke

TheMightyHandful
Dec 8, 2008

sebzilla posted:

[Speedy Gonzales voice] Underlay! Underlay!

Cancelled

Sagacity
May 2, 2003
Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.
Y'all just jealous

Rapulum_Dei
Sep 7, 2009

sebzilla posted:

[Speedy Gonzales voice] Underlay! Underlay!

I understood that reference!

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Jaded Burnout posted:

Such a fuckin dad joke

9 years of this poo poo finally paying off

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

sebzilla posted:

9 years of this poo poo finally paying off

I didnt initially get the context here and was about to aggressively defend myself against this taking 9 years but the time it took me to make sure counting on my fingers allowed me to realise what was actually being said.

So I've had to leave the cocoon like warmth and safety of the pant room to deal with the rest of this loving disaster.

bathrooms. but before that an easy win. Install a google smoke alarm and a few more downlights where painting has been done





Havent pulled the battery tab on it as theres still no internet and I dunno what it would do without? BT have again extended the deadline without hitting it. It was 15th march, this friday. They've now pushed it to 22nd. So another week. Who knows?

Can't remember if I already shared this? think I did? But having the heat on is defo causing some drying out. Got the MVHR running full blast, which you can defo hear. Weirdly it is still reading the internal humidity really high even though it feels a lot better. So like every doorway the wooden doorframe has split away from the plasterwork. It won't matter as it will be covered by the architrave but a definite sign that the heating has made a difference



Anyway yeah about that and bathrooms. All the cheap oak worktops I chopped up previously have warped to poo poo and actually snapped apart at the glue joints in pretty much every piece. The second worktop that had been left wrapped and untouched doesnt seem to have suffered the same fate so I've opened that and chopped it up with a slightly less ambitious plan to make the bathroom vanities. I'll hide the joint at the top with an overlap which is less cool but maybe more achievable.



Also bought a couple of big clamps. Using an old piece of packing oak from the oak beam lot as the back piece as its substantially skinnier than the worktops. Means I can attach it with hidden screws but is demountable to get back to gently caress with the plumbing.



Turn upside down to cut out slot for waste pipe



test in situ with made up front leg



hmm didnt really photo it but bought some oak dowel from b&q that was extortionate to cap the screw joints. you can't really see it too much which I guess means it was successful. Whacked in some stopper pieces of wood either side to hold the unit in place for proper bolting in.



It already feels pretty good.

I've got an absolute hotch potch of bolts and rods and whatever and start smashing them all in wherever



I cannot find the right socket so lol gotta do all the slightly bigger ones by hand with a loving spanner. Takes ages



And is a massive ballache on the inside of the unit. Lol I've made things really complicated with the 15 goes at the woodwork



But...



kick the temporary leg away and smashed it

Cantilevered the gently caress out of this



I am a god of carpentry, bow before me naysayers

Yes it's a bit random



Lol and heres the taps. Lol I've got the hot and cold on the wrong sides. they will need to figure out crossing over but thats doable



be something like that



waste







sink!





pretty sure I could stand on it

But I wont.

I'm basically a success story

edit. also forgot to say page 99 posting!

NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Mar 13, 2024

devicenull
May 30, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Did you leave that much extra on every cable? If so you probably bought 2x more cable then you need

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

That's kind of a lot of turds on the floor.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
you google it. theres no normal number

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
I will admit that I didn't do any research.

Starbucks
Jul 7, 2002

Your daily cup of fuck you.
As someone who lives in a new build I can tell you the standard is sweet gently caress all

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Towards L shape architecture:

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Lol I've made things really complicated

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
L
O
LOL

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

NotJustANumber99 posted:

pretty sure I could stand on it

you should



i don't know gently caress all about building or bathrooms or wood, but will you need to seal it protect that thing somehow? it's gonna get a lot of water on it, which i think is bad for wood??

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Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

So I've had to leave the cocoon like warmth and safety of the pant room to deal with the rest of this loving disaster.

You get used to it. The best part of my day is leaving the pant room.

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