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Meowywitch posted:I like this arc a lot. I wouldn't call it the worst like a lot of people do but I also think none of one piece (so far, at least) has been bad Honestly, I was surprised to learn that anyone dislikes Davy Back. Like, there are apparently One Piece fans only in it for the fights? They don't like all the silliness and whimsy? Are we reading the same manga???
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Punk Hazard is such a bad arc that its badness bleeds over into the arc before it and the arc after it.
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PuttyKnife posted:The worst arc is Whole Cake and it isn’t even close. The only thing that saves it is just how horrific Big Mom is and Bege who is a dude on vacation in One Piece from Jojos.
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Meme Emulator posted:The worst arc is like syrup village or something, but nowadays everyone considers east blue to be one big ol megaarc so no one even really thinks to say it anymore The plot of it is weak but even Syrup Village has some fairly good jokes in it. Luffy running the wrong way because north = cold, basically everything with Django, Nami kicking Zoro down the cliff and then accidentally spilling caltrops behind her and Usopp. Also this might just be a me thing but I think the little detail of how Kuro pushes up his glasses because of his weird swords is the thing that stuck with me from the horrible 4Kidz anime and got me to try the manga as a teenager. It really sets the bar early for how good at Oda is at coming up with a weird character quirk and capitalizing on it a bit later. Super early Usopp was not nearly as insufferable as I remembered him either. He lies to his kids in the crew to keep them away from the fight and while yes, he is a coward, he still has enough resolve to try to make a last stand against a full ship of pirates. His line about how he's going to make his lie true and it will be another ordinary day for his village after all is great.
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Begemot posted:Honestly, I was surprised to learn that anyone dislikes Davy Back. I don't like Luffy making Chopper cry even if it works out in the end. It felt really mean.
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I like everything about Syrup Village except the fights, which to me felt like they really dragged on
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I have been reading terrible takes for months and wanted to join in with the worst possible take. Though, I think you all could do far worse. Whole Cake was where I got ultra tired during my marathon of one piece. I’ve actually been thinking of going back to it so I could give it a fair shake.
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Begemot posted:Honestly, I was surprised to learn that anyone dislikes Davy Back. Have you seen the people reimagining Gear 5 as some edge lord haki thing lol
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Mar 13, 2024 21:53
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I haven't and I want to see it.
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RuBisCO posted:Have you seen the people reimagining Gear 5 as some edge lord haki thing lol The most edge lord moron in one piece is Pigeon guy though there are very dark things in the world. Why on earth would a god devoted to frivolity be edgy ever?
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ragnarokette posted:Also this might just be a me thing but I think the little detail of how Kuro pushes up his glasses because of his weird swords is the thing that stuck with me from the horrible 4Kidz anime and got me to try the manga as a teenager. It really sets the bar early for how good at Oda is at coming up with a weird character quirk and capitalizing on it a bit later. Kuro was far from the most memorable or interesting villain, but I'll always remember the way he pushes up his glasses, as well as how those glasses act as visual storytelling to represent how little he fits the role he's been playing as a mild-mannered butler. As shallow as the character was, Oda still showed a lot of his strength as a character designer and storyteller with him. He's also kind of the prototype for bigger and badder villains like Crocodile and Doflamingo, the manipulators who slither their way into having power over people and take their freedom from them for their own selfish reasons while propping themselves up as responsible rulers (or in Kuro's case, caretakers). He might just be the first appearance of a thematic through-line that could run all the way to Imu and the Gorosei. Neat, huh?
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Well Manicured Man posted:Kuro was far from the most memorable or interesting villain, but I'll always remember the way he pushes up his glasses, as well as how those glasses act as visual storytelling to represent how little he fits the role he's been playing as a mild-mannered butler. As shallow as the character was, Oda still showed a lot of his strength as a character designer and storyteller with him. He's also kind of the prototype for bigger and badder villains like Crocodile and Doflamingo, the manipulators who slither their way into having power over people and take their freedom from them for their own selfish reasons while propping themselves up as responsible rulers (or in Kuro's case, caretakers). He might just be the first appearance of a thematic through-line that could run all the way to Imu and the Gorosei. also he had poop in his suit so I can never forget him
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Okay I misrembered it was people guessing at Gear 5
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ragnarokette posted:Also this might just be a me thing but I think the little detail of how Kuro pushes up his glasses because of his weird swords is the thing that stuck with me from the horrible 4Kidz anime and got me to try the manga as a teenager. It really sets the bar early for how good at Oda is at coming up with a weird character quirk and capitalizing on it a bit later. I remember the thing that made me first fall for one piece was seeing luffy punch thru krieg's shield without giving a poo poo about the spikes
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the Davy Back fight is neat because it’s basically a dress rehearsal for water 7 where the threat of losing a crew member becomes very serious
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NachtSieger posted:I haven't and I want to see it. Enjoy! https://www.google.com/search?q=gear+5+concept+fan+art&udm=2 The Sun Wokung one is pretty cool tho 
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Well Manicured Man posted:Kuro was far from the most memorable or interesting villain, but I'll always remember the way he pushes up his glasses, as well as how those glasses act as visual storytelling to represent how little he fits the role he's been playing as a mild-mannered butler. As shallow as the character was, Oda still showed a lot of his strength as a character designer and storyteller with him. He's also kind of the prototype for bigger and badder villains like Crocodile and Doflamingo, the manipulators who slither their way into having power over people and take their freedom from them for their own selfish reasons while propping themselves up as responsible rulers (or in Kuro's case, caretakers). He might just be the first appearance of a thematic through-line that could run all the way to Imu and the Gorosei. Kuro also represents a complete lack of ambition compared to Luffy. his whole plan is to give up pirating and live a cozy life with Kaya’s inheritance while killing off anyone who could potentially bug him about his past.
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Begemot posted:Honestly, I was surprised to learn that anyone dislikes Davy Back. People dislike Davey Back because the anime padded it with filler matches that weren't good. It was before the pacing and care fell through the floor so most people either watched the anime primarily or concurrently and mixed the two in their brains.
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Would Luffy even go Gear 6, or would he transition to Variable Transmission?
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Tcb save this thread please...
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Reverse Gear, and he resets the world back to before the Void Century
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Meowywitch posted:I remember the thing that made me first fall for one piece was seeing luffy punch thru krieg's shield without giving a poo poo about the spikes for me it was luffy stabbing himself in the face in chapter 1
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Meowywitch posted:I remember the thing that made me first fall for one piece was seeing luffy punch thru krieg's shield without giving a poo poo about the spikes It was Zoro eating the riceball for me. Was also a good scene in the live action.
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Infinitum posted:Enjoy! I think its interesting that even during the leadup to gear 5 when it was apparent with Who's Who that Luffy's fruit was special/had a different name, and we also got Nika name dropped in the same chapter, people were still guessing stuff like this. There was an unspoken rule that everyone in the fandom assumed that all zoan devil fruits were based on animals or myths that exist in *our* world, so this made more sense than imaginging a "nika" devil fruit. Despite being the obvious answer not a lot of people hedged their bets on it because it was unprecedented.
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you all will never convince me Kurina wasnt a misogynist honor killing
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:you all will never convince me Kurina wasnt a misogynist honor killing
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:you all will never convince me Kurina wasnt a misogynist honor killing weird belief
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:you all will never convince me Kurina wasnt a misogynist honor killing if it were then it would be portrayed, like all of the other tragic backstories
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:you all will never convince me Kurina wasnt a misogynist honor killing
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scary ghost dog posted:if it were then it would be portrayed, like all of the other tragic backstories it was early on and Oda was still perfecting the formula
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:you all will never convince me Kurina wasnt a misogynist honor killing she fell and broke her neck, which is an extremely common cause of death ThatBasqueGuy posted:it was early on and Oda was still perfecting the formula it was early on and Oda hadn’t established that children can survive an atom bomb being dropped directly on their head yet
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Well Manicured Man posted:Kuro was far from the most memorable or interesting villain, but I'll always remember the way he pushes up his glasses, as well as how those glasses act as visual storytelling to represent how little he fits the role he's been playing as a mild-mannered butler. As shallow as the character was, Oda still showed a lot of his strength as a character designer and storyteller with him. He's also kind of the prototype for bigger and badder villains like Crocodile and Doflamingo, the manipulators who slither their way into having power over people and take their freedom from them for their own selfish reasons while propping themselves up as responsible rulers (or in Kuro's case, caretakers). He might just be the first appearance of a thematic through-line that could run all the way to Imu and the Gorosei. My problem with Kuro is that he's not as smart as Oda intended him to be. The SBS claims he's the second-most-intelligent character introduced in One Piece as of Volume 8 (with Beckmann being the smartest), and I just don't buy it. Krieg was the smart one.
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Silver2195 posted:Krieg was the smart one. krieg was extremely dumb
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he's kuro of a thousand plans, but they dont have to be good plans
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No break next week
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the problem with being a man of a thousand plans is that all plans dissolve instantly on contact with monkey d luffy
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CatstropheWaitress posted:No break next week https://streamable.com/vllcsh
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this is why it's dangerous for us to not have chapter...
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Augus posted:krieg was extremely dumb Krieg fights using technology and underhanded tactics (and managed to get a draw against Luffy by doing so; Luffy would have drowned afterwards if Sanji hadn't fished him out). Kuro fights by running around really fast, swinging his blades wildly, and hoping he hits his opponent.
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