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yea ok posted:wrong Ah poo poo
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I get the instinct to just enjoy an awesome product and stop bringing up ratings / ticket sale / growth but a bigger part of me doesn't get how some.peoole have a complete and total aversion to wanting the thing they love to be loved by as many people as possible so it can continue to grow and be more awesome. When every single Dynamite seems to lose 250,000 people and crowds are dwindling, relying on hardcore loyal fans geeking out over every Dream Match Tony puts together isn't a sustainable business model for AEW.
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Mar 15, 2024 23:58
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fawning deference posted:I get the instinct to just enjoy an awesome product and stop bringing up ratings / ticket sale / growth but a bigger part of me doesn't get how some.peoole have a complete and total aversion to wanting the thing they love to be loved by as many people as possible so it can continue to grow and be more awesome. It’s a good thing we know exactly what everything costs and exactly how much they’re taking in revenues to be able to make sustainability assessments, imo
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Mar 16, 2024 00:00
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fawning deference posted:I get the instinct to just enjoy an awesome product and stop bringing up ratings / ticket sale / growth but a bigger part of me doesn't get how some.peoole have a complete and total aversion to wanting the thing they love to be loved by as many people as possible so it can continue to grow and be more awesome. Why do I give a gently caress what other people watch?
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Mar 16, 2024 00:01
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crowds are slowly picking up from the nadir of 2023 and the ratings follow a regular wrestling show's rating patterns. it'd be cool if they improved faster but if you take into account the # of cable homes they're holding steady if not improving. ticket sales is the only metric that they are visibly below average (ppvs as an exception, of course) and when the other company is as white hot as it is it's going to be tough to see any massive positive changes immediately
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Mar 16, 2024 00:02
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oh ill admit my eyes glazed over before i even got to 'sustainable business model'. shad khan is one of the richest people in the world. there's your sustainability.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:02
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The_Rob posted:Why do I give a gently caress what other people watch? i like when the crowds are fuller because it makes for a more entertaining experience as a whole on my end. a great match is a great match, and boy do i enjoy a great match, but with a big hot juicy crowd it "takes it up a notch" to quote a master chef, and i don't mean TK
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Mar 16, 2024 00:04
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The_Rob posted:I’m so mad that Tony Khan is giving me a badass match I want to see. If only he would have done it a week later!!!! Agghhhh there is nothing wrong with saying Tony should promote matches more in advance. That has typically increased interest in shows and helped it become more popular.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:04
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fawning deference posted:I get the instinct to just enjoy an awesome product and stop bringing up ratings / ticket sale / growth but a bigger part of me doesn't get how some.peoole have a complete and total aversion to wanting the thing they love to be loved by as many people as possible so it can continue to grow and be more awesome. Weird way to frame it.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:04
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Glad all the WWE freaks hate the product and don't watch. The best movie ever made is not the one that sold the most.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:05
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yea ok posted:i like when the crowds are fuller because it makes for a more entertaining experience as a whole on my end. a great match is a great match, and boy do i enjoy a great match, but with a big hot juicy crowd it "takes it up a notch" to quote a master chef, and i don't mean TK I mean I’ve heard smaller crowds be insanely loud and giant crowds be insanely quiet.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:05
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fawning deference posted:I get the instinct to just enjoy an awesome product and stop bringing up ratings / ticket sale / growth but a bigger part of me doesn't get how some.peoole have a complete and total aversion to wanting the thing they love to be loved by as many people as possible so it can continue to grow and be more awesome. once again, some people don't understand exactly how much a billion dollars is
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Mar 16, 2024 00:06
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"Maybe for them to succeed long term and live they might to do a cou-" "Shut up! Just enjoy wrestling" Fraglie mind, fragile ego
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Mar 16, 2024 00:06
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yea ok posted:i like when the crowds are fuller because it makes for a more entertaining experience as a whole on my end. a great match is a great match, and boy do i enjoy a great match, but with a big hot juicy crowd it "takes it up a notch" to quote a master chef, and i don't mean TK They've added chants to all the entrance songs so you still get this feeling
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Mar 16, 2024 00:08
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The_Rob posted:I mean I’ve heard smaller crowds be insanely loud and giant crowds be insanely quiet. me too there are obviously exceptions to everything
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Mar 16, 2024 00:15
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i turn on the tv every wednesday and have a great time for two hours, and three or four times a year i go in a big cavernous building and do it with a bunch of other wrestling fans
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Mar 16, 2024 00:15
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I watched Jericho vs. Andretti the other day and that crowd was so loving insanely loud. And that's one of the hypest moments in Dynamite history so maybe that's a little unfair but the crowd energy they have now just isn't what they used to have and that used to be one of the most fun parts of Dynamite. Trying to spin that into some indictment of their business is goofy as gently caress though because he's about to sign a billion dollar check from Warner Bros. Sustain these!!!!!!! *grabs junk*
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Mar 16, 2024 00:22
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STING 64 posted:i turn on the tv every wednesday and have a great time for two hours, and three or four times a year i go in a big cavernous building and do it with a bunch of other wrestling fans Exactly.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:24
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MJeff posted:I watched Jericho vs. Andretti the other day and that crowd was so loving insanely loud. And that's one of the hypest moments in Dynamite history so maybe that's a little unfair but the crowd energy they have now just isn't what they used to have and that used to be one of the most fun parts of Dynamite. The real answer is to go back to smaller arenas because 5000ish in an arena sized to that looks and sounds better than 9000 in a building designed for 20000. Or pipe in noise so you're not beholden to the whims of stadium acoustics and wrestling fans.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:33
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Isn't there the problem that like, venues are probably booked months in advance and you can't just call them up the week of and go "NVM we changed our mind" without paying massive fines? Also there's basically a minimum venue size they can do given all the equipment/staff/etc needed for a live production that size?
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Mar 16, 2024 00:37
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Yeah they went bigger venues because I believe he got a discount and it was easier on the equipment
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Mar 16, 2024 00:47
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Gumball Gumption posted:Glad all the WWE freaks hate the product and don't watch. The best movie ever made is not the one that sold the most. Wrong, Avatar is in act the best movie ever made
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Mar 16, 2024 00:56
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NienNunb posted:Wrong, Avatar is in act the best movie ever made Crazy to say that Avengers: Endgame is the second best but by your logic it's just true. You believe that.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:59
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Also everyone is crazy hyped during that match and it looks cooler because the arena is packed to the ceiling. Is the ceiling not very high? Yeah but still looks cooler than a stadium with the entire upper decks empty even if the crowd is a few thousand more.
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Mar 16, 2024 00:59
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Gumball Gumption posted:Crazy to say that Avengers: Endgame is the second best but by your logic it's just true. You believe that. It’s not as good as the Thanos one that came before it but it’s fine.
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Mar 16, 2024 01:01
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PWG had some insanely hot crowds because it was 120 degrees inside the building, everyone was losing their minds standing so close to the ring that even the back rows were at risk of getting wheel kicked by Chuck Taylor. Even if there's more total people at an AEW show it's hard to get that much energy in a crowd they should start running entire shows in the hallways of the arena like when they have those big arena brawl matches it's always cool to see 200 people(the maximum attendance at a 2024 AEW show) crowding around the wrestlers while they're squirting mustard at each other. CHaKKaWaKka fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Mar 16, 2024 |
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Mar 16, 2024 01:06
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I’ll never enjoy wrestling again the way I did watching 2014 PWG shows on psp.tv
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Mar 16, 2024 01:18
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NienNunb posted:I’ll never enjoy wrestling again the way I did watching 2014 PWG shows live at the american legion
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Mar 16, 2024 01:21
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Good to know you’ve also been in the same room as Oatgan at some point
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Mar 16, 2024 01:24
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thinking back on it, did we even bother talking about ratings for Lucha Underground? I remember posting about it in the gdt and just loving it for the first two seasons but I never remember ratings coming up.
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Mar 16, 2024 01:42
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NienNunb posted:Good to know you’ve also been in the same room as Oatgan at some point a few times
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Mar 16, 2024 01:49
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Shard posted:thinking back on it, did we even bother talking about ratings for Lucha Underground? I remember posting about it in the gdt and just loving it for the first two seasons but I never remember ratings coming up. i think it didnt have a regular timeslot which didnt help and the network it was on was so small it wasnt tracked initially
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Mar 16, 2024 01:50
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CHaKKaWaKka posted:they should start running entire shows in the hallways of the arena like when they have those big arena brawl matches it's always cool to see 200 people(the maximum attendance at a 2024 AEW show) crowding around the wrestlers while they're squirting mustard at each other. aew should book the big buildings and then just run in the parking lots every fan will have a front row seat and they'll be able to save tons of money i bet papa shao kahn has a house, tiny should run out of the backyard like it's a big budget tournament of death
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Mar 16, 2024 02:32
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All of his dad's cars lighting the ring with the headlights
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Mar 16, 2024 02:38
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Oh my god that tag tournament fuckin' sucks.
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Mar 16, 2024 03:29
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MJeff posted:Oh my god that tag tournament fuckin' sucks. i think its neat
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Mar 16, 2024 03:41
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MJeff posted:Oh my god that tag tournament fuckin' sucks. Setting up ftr bucks in the most boring and predictable way possible
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Mar 16, 2024 03:41
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Putting the belts back on Dax and Cash will go a long way in healing this company
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Mar 16, 2024 03:44
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I was promised bracket madness! Where's the fuckin' madness?! There's like 9 fuckin' matches in this thing!
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It feels to me like they're gonna swerve away from FTR/Bucks. It's pretty underwhelming though.
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