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Oh hey his high pitched scream is in the original language too, neat.
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# ? May 25, 2024 14:13 |
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Am I using the wrong subtitles or something because I only know the new guy (?) as the lunatic magician on the Netflix subtitles, I've never seen or heard mad mage or thistle
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 06:16 |
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may have been in the credits?
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 06:22 |
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Centzon Totochtin posted:Am I using the wrong subtitles or something because I only know the new guy (?) as the lunatic magician on the Netflix subtitles, I've never seen or heard mad mage or thistle Mad Mage is referenced earlier on, Thistle is in the credits
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 06:23 |
It was this chapter that Ryoko kinda retconned orcs into a more pig man look and i am thankfull for that
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 06:30 |
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There's 2 sets of English subtitles availible. The ones that match the English dub script says Mad Mage, and the ones that are supposed to be a stricter translation of the Japanese audio say Lunatic Magician.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 06:30 |
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Hihohe posted:It was this chapter that Ryoko kinda retconned orcs into a more pig man look and i am thankfull for that Orcs in japan have always been pig-like in appearance in Japan.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 06:50 |
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worldbuild question: when chilichuck said "I hope she's not one of those dark elves" is the mad mage a dark elf in that sense? Idk if it's meant as a racial thing or an alignment one they also refer to them as an elf to the orcs after their encounter, and not dark elf (despite mentioning the skin tone)
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 07:01 |
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She's got a lot of emotional intelligence for an orc. :3
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 07:05 |
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Synthbuttrange posted:She's got a lot of emotional intelligence for an orc. :3 casual racism smdh
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 07:34 |
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Digamma-F-Wau posted:Yeah Studio Trigger usually does single-cour series; the only ones longer (all of which being 2 cour) being Kill la Kill, Ninja Slayer (which had half-length episodes), Little Witch Academia, and Darling in the Franxx (which Trigger only produced 6 episodes of). Hell I feel like Dungeon Meshi has a pretty good chance of being the very first Trigger anime to have multiple seasons (given that we are not finishing the manga in 11 episodes) Well, it depends if you count Dynazenon, doesn't it?
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 07:53 |
Zeruel posted:Orcs in japan have always been pig-like in appearance in Japan. In the manga the orcs actually looked less piglike the first time they showed up, but Ryoko Kui thought they looked too boring so she redesigned them when they showed back up in this chapter (This is from Daydream Hour 2, one of the collections of her sketches she put out throughout the run of the manga. 2 is from this point in the manga so it doesn't have any spoilers in it)
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 08:03 |
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Arc Hammer posted:Chuder Empire. Can you explain this part to me as someone who's never watched Trigun?
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 11:58 |
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the orcs are kinda quick to murder but im sad senshi lost his dragon meat to the t-1000 magic and had none to trade to them
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:08 |
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I mean the relationship between adventuring parties and orcs seems to be "kill on sight". It's only Senshi that's an exception.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:36 |
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https://dragon-quest.org/wiki/Orc After Akira Toriyama's passing, I saw someone on Twitter say that since he made his orcs in dragon quest pig-like, more often than not most orcs in Japanese fiction are pig-like rather than "large muscular goblin" because that's how influential Toriyama and DQ were. Not sure how accurate that is but seems plausible and cool
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:47 |
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Centzon Totochtin posted:https://dragon-quest.org/wiki/Orc Earlier editions of DnD had pig-faced orcs, including the first edition ever translated into Japanese. Get a load of them: Apparently a lot of effort was put into localizing that edition in a way no subsequent edition had been in the following years. That may have also influenced Toriyama though but both may have influenced Ryoko Kui independently
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:01 |
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Yeah, early dnd orcs were more pig and boar like. I believe Wizardy orcs were also more animalistic, and Wizardy is also often pointed to being the reason why kobolds tend towards the more dog types in japanese media than the dragon/lizard types. So like the imagery has always been there in the ether, but Toriyama's designs are what really like, locked that style in people's minds.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:01 |
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I can't believe it... I fell for misinformation on social media... Time to apply for my boomer card
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:12 |
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Gruckles posted:There's 2 sets of English subtitles availible. The ones that match the English dub script says Mad Mage, and the ones that are supposed to be a stricter translation of the Japanese audio say Lunatic Magician. As someone who likes alliteration Mad Mage is a better name. Teriyaki Koinku posted:Can you explain this part to me as someone who's never watched Trigun? There's a point in Trigun where the main antagonists appear and the episodes shift in tone from action adventure to action drama. There's still funny moments throughout but a few characters in particular who switch the tone over to outright horror when they appear, particularly a man named Legato. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Mar 29, 2024 |
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Can you explain this part to me as someone who's never watched Trigun? Trigun is a pretty goofball series, and then Legato Bluesummers shows up.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 14:12 |
Id say this series doesnt really change its tone and get "darker" its stakes just get upped as weve seen and i think twitter people are getting that mixed up. Its like thinking dbz got darker when they went from the frieza saga to the Cell saga
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 14:18 |
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I get your point and you’re not wrong, but Cell sucking a man dry into nothingness as he begs for help as his intro after sucking off an entire town, including children, is probably one of the darkest moments in shonen imho
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Last Celebration posted:I get your point and you’re not wrong, but Cell sucking a man dry into nothingness as he begs for help as his intro after sucking off an entire town, including children, is probably one of the darkest moments in shonen imho Except that's just it, a moment. Dark, creepy, absolutely. Not indicative of the tone the remainder of the Cell arc takes, but it does establish stakes.
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Arc Hammer posted:As someone who likes alliteration Mad Mage is a better name. More specifically, trigun is a largely comedic series with a lead that acts like a cartoon character with a lot of episodes that revolve around straight up gags, and then halfway through the series the main antagonists show up and brutally massacre a whole village
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 14:43 |
I'd say this episode was a tonal shift, but not a huge or jarring one. It's not even that it got a whole lot darker, just a bit more mysterious. Like the first half was pretty straightforward, Falin got eaten by a dragon and now we gotta cut her out of its gullet poste haste. Yeah there was weird fantasy poo poo, but none of it was totally foreign or inexplicable to the characters in-universe. Now things have gotten a touch more foreboding, we have an intelligent adversary, there's vague portentous dialogue alluding to... stuff. And something happened to Falin that we don't know precisely what, but is implied to be kinda hosed up in a way that's different from just being eaten by something. Like I said, it's not a huge Red Wedding style tonal shift, stuff is still mostly goofy fantasy adventure. But now we've hit a point where there's bigger things going on that nobody, not even our seasoned adventurer main characters, totally grasps.
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Hihohe posted:Ill be honest, i dont know what a cour is and i thought they meant to say course because they were making a food joke Here's some anime viewing vocab 101 for the youngins who aren't aware of these terms Series: Refers to the American sense of the entire story. Most anime are only one season so they're often synonymous. Season: Synonymous with the UK use of "Series." A complete production unit that is at least one Cour/calendar season and may be more. Shows like One Piece, Dragon Ball Super and Detective Conan do not have these and are largely separated by arcs or calendar year. They are the exceptions rather than the rule. Cour: Japanese broadcasting term based on the French word. Calendar season production unit. Most anime are 1 cour. Some, like this one, are 2 cour. Sentai and Kamen Rider are 4 cour technically. 3 is very rare, but happens. 1 cour is 12-13 episodes. The variation is largely based on individual series and preference of the creators. Split cour: Uncommon. Refers to series whose cours are not aired continuously. Reasons for this vary.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 14:54 |
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I'm not a youngin', I just haven't watched anime since before Americans started using 'cours' (thanks!)
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 14:59 |
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The tonal shift is that there are now stakes instead of steaks.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 15:32 |
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YggiDee posted:I'm not a youngin', I just haven't watched anime since before Americans started using 'cours' (thanks!) And Americans only used cour because the Japanese used it because weebs. https://twitter.com/gaurichan/status/1773481982791401962
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Marcille just wants a burger Marsupial Ape posted:The tonal shift is that there are now stakes instead of steaks. They went from a surplus of dragon meat to no meat. Things are getting serious
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 15:49 |
Senshis runnin out of spices. Things are gettin bleak
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 15:53 |
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they managed to get away from the Lunatic Magician relatively unharmed, but entirely unhammed. this affront cannot be forgiven. oh also Falyn's been turned into some kind of abomination i guess. that's bad too
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 15:55 |
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Arguably no tonal shift because the Senshi eating a beholder is the same Senshi witnessing a massacre
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 15:55 |
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I've been having Senshi moments in the kitchen lately. I had some milk that was starting to clot and instead of throwing it out, I poured it into a bowl, added some acids and collected all the nice curd and pressed it. I added a bit of salt. It was very fresh and sweet cheese! It tasted amazing spread on toasted bread with jam or mixed into some cold beans for a nice salad.
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Plant MONSTER. posted:I've been having Senshi moments in the kitchen lately. I had some milk that was starting to clot and instead of throwing it out, I poured it into a bowl, added some acids and collected all the nice curd and pressed it. I added a bit of salt. It was very fresh and sweet cheese! You seem like a very nice person, but your posting history has me convinced you are going to die from misadventure induced diarrhea.
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Marsupial Ape posted:You seem like a very nice person, but your posting history has me convinced you are going to die from misadventure induced diarrhea. You're right. You're saying I should use the pan seared liver flukes as wrappers for the fresh cheese, like cannoli!
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 16:54 |
Step aside babbies with your "Spicey" food. Real refined and expiremental palettes are coming through.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 17:13 |
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i thought watching falin's skin bubble towards the end there was a bit more graphic than even stuff like the undine, and the sudden rug pull of falin not being saved but instead enslaved to the mad mage with an unknown level of autonomy and sanity (or if she will even continue to exist after the mad mage is done reforming her flesh) is pretty dark the story has gone from fairly straightforward with some brutal but still relatively clean moments (the undine headshot was over in like half a second and the brutality of it mostly came from how sudden it was) to having quite a bit more gore by screentime with an uncertain future (there's not as clear a solution to their core problem now than when it was "find the dragon and stab it hard"). also like, chilchuck just had to talk laois into abandoning his sister after they jsut saved her. i can see why people would call this a bit of a tone shift. i'm very here for it, for the record
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Alan Smithee posted:worldbuild question: when chilichuck said "I hope she's not one of those dark elves" is the mad mage a dark elf in that sense? Idk if it's meant as a racial thing or an alignment one Minor spoilers from some supplemental material (this never comes up in the main story): Dark Elves are an alignment thing, not a racial/skin tone thing. Dark Elves also aren't even real - it's literally a myth made up by the short-lived races. The basic gist is - the elves first encountered by short-lived races were nice and actively gave the shorties knowledge and technology. Later elves encountered were less nice. The short-lived races decided this was due to some corruptive force, rather than individuals/groups within a race having different goals or belief systems.
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