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I do wonder how the Daniel Penny trial will play out in October. A lot of chuds use the outcome of that incident to flippantly claim you Just Can't Defend Yourself Anymore, or you'll get arrested and charged with murder . Second degree manslaughter might be easier to prove than murder in Rittenhouse's trial. Curious how the right wing media will interpret either outcome- If innocent, they'll try to make him into another right wing darling but as with Kyle the results might vary. I presume the antisocial behaviors leading someone to choke or shoot a person to death aren't going to be as media friendly as they'd like. If guilty, I anticipate a big surge in "it's not safe to live in Democrat cities, leave while you still can" and reactionary laws in red counties intended to protect further people from prosecution under the particular circumstances.
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PT6A posted:I think this attorney quite rightly resents his former client for taking an unimaginable boon, a wealth of funds and effort spend first on his defense and then on providing the opportunity to move on with his life, and pissing it away because he's too loving dumb, and I get why he feels that way. I've seen similar things in my line of work, and if you are committed to the job you do, you don't like watching someone treat your efforts and expertise with utter contempt. Yeah it's wild knowing all this, especially considering that everything that comes out that suggests exactly how dumb rittenhouse is makes you have to remember that the prosecution team was dumber
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Staluigi posted:Yeah it's wild knowing all this, especially considering that everything that comes out that suggests exactly how dumb rittenhouse is That, and that the judge had his thumb firmly on the scale throughout the trial.
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Panfilo posted:I do wonder how the Daniel Penny trial will play out in October. A lot of chuds use the outcome of that incident to flippantly claim you Just Can't Defend Yourself Anymore, or you'll get arrested and charged with murder . Second degree manslaughter might be easier to prove than murder in Rittenhouse's trial. Curious how the right wing media will interpret either outcome- There is no possible universe in which putting someone in a chokehold until they die is self-defense.
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# ? Apr 4, 2024 01:40 |
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Xand_Man posted:There is no possible universe in which putting someone in a chokehold until they die is self-defense. Before the Rittenhouse trial, I would agree there's no way something like this is going to be interpreted as self defense. Now, I'm cynical about how exactly the jury will see things. Conservatives see Penny as a hero and a martyr.
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# ? Apr 4, 2024 02:18 |
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PT6A posted:I feel quite bad for him, to be honest. Even the worst assholes in society deserve a zealous defense within the limits of the law, I don't think you can blame a criminal defense attorney for having a client who has legitimately done terrible things, and I don't think you can blame them for taking every available legal avenue to provide a defense. You can, of course, be quite upset that this quality of representation is available on a very unequal basis, but that's a separate issue. yeah that's really true. it sucks a lot to see that much of a sincere effort completely flushed down the drain like that. I don't think the kid was worth going to such lengths beyond the defense itself but it really does sound like the lawyer got taken for a ride here too
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I read through some of the dude's posts, I don't think he's a lawyer. Ex-SEAL brought on as a consultant to whip Rittenhouse into shape, maybe.
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The dude got paid. His mistake was thinking there was some higher calling here, or trying to convince us that's what he was really after. He didn't do this pro bono.
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It's a lot of effort down the drain no matter what way you slice it.
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# ? Apr 4, 2024 02:31 |
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Staluigi posted:makes you have to remember that the prosecution team was dumber I don't know that's the case at all. The prosecution in any case must fight an uphill battle, and I think that's the way it ought to be. They must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime occurred, with reference to what the law defines as a crime, because the result is a person's freedom being taken away. I can and will say that Kyle Rittenhouse is a piece of poo poo and society would benefit from the removal of him from it. I can say that he's a morally repugnant piece of garbage. I can't say beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed a crime as defined by the law. That is probably a problem with the law, as much as anything else. I am nonetheless pleased that karma seems to be accomplishing what the law could not, and I hope he lives a life of guilt and misery.
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# ? Apr 4, 2024 04:32 |
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PT6A posted:I am nonetheless pleased that karma seems to be accomplishing what the law could not, and I hope he lives a life of guilt and misery. He lives in misery because he feels no guilt. It's downright poetic
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I was wondering briefly what I'd do with that kind of media attention and opportunity. The answer is probably "get myself whacked" because I've discovered I'm really, really good at annoying the poo poo out of media companies by pointing out their role in running cover for the evils of capitalism
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The Islamic Shock posted:I was wondering briefly what I'd do with that kind of media attention and opportunity. The answer is probably "get myself whacked" because I've discovered I'm really, really good at annoying the poo poo out of media companies by pointing out their role in running cover for the evils of capitalism Yeah you'd be a super martyr because of your virtue
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I didn't realize it was just one can, I knew it was a promotional thing but figured it was a very limited run collector thing or something. drat. https://twitter.com/AriDrennen/status/1775622214639079603?t=n10Mh0R2n6vh_muo5raF1Q&s=19
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ContinuityNewTimes posted:Yeah you'd be a super martyr because of your virtue Panfilo posted:I didn't realize it was just one can, I knew it was a promotional thing but figured it was a very limited run collector thing or something. drat.
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PT6A posted:I don't know that's the case at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2l1fcLxfOg Prosecution was inept to an almost clinical degree, leading up slowly and patiently to disaster cross testimony theatre. The defense team for rittenhouse included the prosecution imo
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PT6A posted:I don't know that's the case at all. The prosecution in any case must fight an uphill battle, and I think that's the way it ought to be. They must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime occurred, with reference to what the law defines as a crime, because the result is a person's freedom being taken away. I can and will say that Kyle Rittenhouse is a piece of poo poo and society would benefit from the removal of him from it. I can say that he's a morally repugnant piece of garbage. I can't say beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed a crime as defined by the law. That is probably a problem with the law, as much as anything else. Yeah. the dudes rightfully hosed now and it "might" get worse for him. https://twitter.com/DaveHan06/status/1776203211885441046 i wouldnt be shocked if stuff got dumped eventually.
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Panfilo posted:Chaya Raichik making an rear end of herself once again. this. but also you have to remember sacks of poo poo like Chaya are just hyped up kiwi farms trolls, hell she basicaly was one until the chuds blew smoke up her rear end and made her a "moral paragon" this is all a weird psycho game to her and she is also dumb as hell. most terminally online chuds are dumb as hell and dont know how to intereact with anyone outside their little sphere. the chuds and apperently the GOP are making the mistake that their echo chamber is the "silent majority". its why you have all the talking heads screaming insane religious trad poo poo.
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Panfilo posted:Before the Rittenhouse trial, I would agree there's no way something like this is going to be interpreted as self defense. Now, I'm cynical about how exactly the jury will see things. Conservatives see Penny as a hero and a martyr. yeah, i think he walks probably, maybe one of the lesser charges. he is white and conventually normal looking and was in the military and apperently did it in defence of others mixed with the victim being a mentally ill black guy with history of violence and mental outbursts and poo poo. like i am pretty sure the dude shattered a ladies face plus other stuff. like yeah its clear the victim was failed by our hosed mental health system and then got killed by some moron who tried to do solid snake poo poo but hosed up and kept doubling down even when people were telling him to stop. Like sure he should be found guilty but his past and the victims past actions are gonna save him Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Apr 5, 2024 |
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Wokeness is when you, um, when you critical race theory a ... uh, a DEI, i know what all these things mean of course... i just watched a liberal do it yesterday, wokenessc got everywhere
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she woke on my DEI until i critical race theory
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There is absolutely wild poo poo going down the internet-y right wing grifter world. Candice Owens got fired from the Daily Wire over disagreements with Ben Shapiro over with him being severely biased towards Israel. She claims he's being a bully and censoring her. That has turned into a "debate me" challenge. The kicker is that she is trying poach his audience, make her own platform similar to the Daily Wire and teamed with another right wing star Patrick Bet David. https://x.com/benshapiro/status/1776382501914579218 https://x.com/patrickbetdavid/status/1776399687584514085
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I thought the reason she got fired is because she was being very openly anti-Semitic and reposting/liking really heinous anti-Jewish memes
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FlamingLiberal posted:I thought the reason she got fired is because she was being very openly anti-Semitic and reposting/liking really heinous anti-Jewish memes Yep. Love how they continue to be suprised when people who make a career out of being biggots turn out to be be biggots. You'd think a smart boy like ben would of seen that one comming
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I'm sure he knew what she was like. It doesn't sound like she has ever tried to really hide any of her opinions. At some point her being the token black conservative on his network just wasn't worth the trouble.
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Kith posted:she woke on my DEI until i critical race theory When you DEI but she still woking.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I'm sure he knew what she was like. It doesn't sound like she has ever tried to really hide any of her opinions. At some point her being the token black conservative on his network just wasn't worth the trouble. There's plenty of dyed in the wool antisemites still at the Daily Wire or at least in Benji's orbit, they just hate black and brown people more and have the good sense to achieve those goals by supporting Israel on right wing media
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FlamingLiberal posted:I thought the reason she got fired is because she was being very openly anti-Semitic and reposting/liking really heinous anti-Jewish memes I think the breaking point was when she pointed out somewhere that maybe Israel didn’t need to murder so many Palestinian civilians in cold blood.
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Subjunctive posted:I think the breaking point was when she pointed out somewhere that maybe Israel didn’t need to murder so many Palestinian civilians in cold blood.
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I thought we were calling it "gock"
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FlamingLiberal posted:I thought the reason she got fired is because she was being very openly anti-Semitic and reposting/liking really heinous anti-Jewish memes Basically. She's playing at Ben's angle of free speech and that he wouldn't de-platform anyone even if they had awful opinions. But then he did, lol. FlamingLiberal posted:I'm sure he knew what she was like. It doesn't sound like she has ever tried to really hide any of her opinions. At some point her being the token black conservative on his network just wasn't worth the trouble. Yup, she was brought on because she's a rising right wing star and he wanted to grow the Daily Wire.
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 05:29 |
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First impression of this guy is holy poo poo does he have the talent for the grift
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 17:35 |
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Ben Shapiro: 1v1 me nub
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Neito posted:Ben Shapiro: 1v1 me nub Because that always goes great when it's not a random college student without any debate/interview experience
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DarklyDreaming posted:Because that always goes great when it's not a random college student without any debate/interview experience Ben is, to extend my little League joke, a Silver-Tier player; against a Bronze-Tier player, like a college student or a trash-tier lib or whomever he goes after, he feels like he's running rings around you, like he's mastered some hidden tech that makes you a god. In reality, all he's mastered is the debate version of last-hitting and chain-ulting; he's learned a few things that are astonishingly basic in higher tiers, but aren't things that new players think of, understand, or consider in their play.
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Nothing like making a little chaos for minutes of darkness. Wonder where that $100k goes if theres no emergency to take care of. https://twitter.com/KARK4News/status/1776675350606389390 "LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (KNWA/KFTA) — Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders declared a state of emergency on Friday ahead of the solar eclipse, according to a news release. Sanders said in the release that she released funds from the Response and Recovery Fund to help commercial carriers transport essentials to customers in the state during the eclipse. The essential items listed in the order include groceries, pharmacy items, medical equipment, goods, commodities, fuel, poultry, livestock and feed. The release said the decision was made out of caution due to the expected increase of visitors to Arkansas “potentially causing hardships.” “We want to make sure Arkansans and all visitors have an enjoyable experience and come back again and again,” Sanders said in a statement. The order will allocate $100,000 from the fund to address program and administrative costs and will be managed by the director of the Arkansas Division of Emergency Management.. The state emergency will remain in effect until April 10."
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That's actually a pretty normal response when you expect a big influx of tourists gathering all over the place in areas where tourists don't typically gather all over the place - and a big spectacle in the sky that will naturally cause distracted driving. A lot of governments are doing it. quote:Nearly a week before the 2017 eclipse, Oregon Gov. Kate Brown (D-OR) declared a state of emergency in anticipation of “a rapid influx of visitors” to the state “and substantial movement of Oregonians from one part of this state to another,” according to the declaration’s text. Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Apr 8, 2024 |
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OgNar posted:Nothing like making a little chaos for minutes of darkness. Preemptively call a state of emergency when the sun goes away. Smart. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightfall_(Asimov_novelette_and_novel)
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OgNar posted:Nothing like making a little chaos for minutes of darkness. She sucks, full stop. This is not a really weird thing to do, though. I was up in Hot Springs Arkansas on Friday night from my town in Louisiana and traffic was BONKERS. They already have a huge influx of visitors to the state for the eclipse acting crazy, getting drunk and crashing cars. The locals are more worried about people parking in strange places on the interstates and causing accidents because everyone is looking up. That, and everyone is treating it like a giant party. I'm sure people being weird about the eclipse is on the list, but not near the top. On the list of dumb, weird poo poo she does, this isn't really on it.
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