rotor posted:

check out this dude who cant cope with multithreading

Share Bear posted:

i thought this was like a new linux thread but theres another one with way more convos in it

close this one or the other one plz

Poopernickel posted:

if you're a laptophaver, macos is still the way to go. Windows is next-best. Put your Linux in a VM (WSL is fine). Don't waste your life loving around with graphics drivers, wi-fi drivers, "oh, btw your camera won't work", bad battery life, etc

git apologist posted:

beefy you are suspiciously effusive about linux

rotor posted:

this thread inspired me to get compiz goin again with the wobbly windows and its great

Beeftweeter posted:

just try kde man, i have a feeling you'll really like it. all of that poo poo is built into kwin (on x11 or wayland)

it's just overall a much more refined experience imo

rotor posted:

yeah im not disagreeing i just dont have the patience for fuckin around with that stuff right now. I looked at a howto and it seems like fairly major surgery.

post hole digger posted:

i want to look at kde but probably wont until fedora 40 drops with plasma 6

post hole digger posted:

i want to look at kde but probably wont until fedora 40 drops with plasma 6

Beeftweeter posted:

not at all, you can literally do all of that through the control panel, which is imo better designed than windows 10/11 control panels

like yeah there's a lot of settings, but you don't need to go edit esoteric text files or hunt down where some setting is or whatever you're envisioning. it's all in the control panel, including functionality to download new stuff (themes, login screens, sounds, icons, kwin effects, etc.)

it's really pretty easy, idk where you got that idea

rotor posted:

idk what control panel you're talkin about and between this conversation and installing and reverting compiz I'm already at the limit of how much time I'm willing to invest in this.

Beeftweeter posted:

it's called "system settings"

https://userbase.kde.org/System_Settings

e.g. changing a theme:



downloading more:



all of the other settings look pretty similar

rotor posted:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Beeftweeter posted:

Poopernickel posted:

the best linux desktop environment is Mac OS with some SSH windows to whatever linux you're trying to use

post hole digger posted:

me.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Beeftweeter posted:

e.g. changing a theme:

Nobody Interesting posted:

it's eff-stab

The_Franz posted:

they still ship the kde4 oxygen theme? that thing looked like what you would get if you gave a warezed copy of photoshop to a kid who sits in the dark all day

breeze is probably the nicest desktop theme on any os right now though. it's legitimately pleasant to look at

ryanrs posted:

I think I'm going to need the serial console to see wtf is going on with PCIe on this Pine64 RockPro64 board. It happens very early in the boot process.

Poking around my lab, I found a Baofeng programming cable that looks suspiciously like a USB-to-TTL Serial cable. Signal level appears to be 5V, so I guess I'll add an inline 1k resistor when hooking up to my motherboard's 3.3V serial header.

quote:

The FT232R supports all standard baud rates and non-standard baud rates from 183 Baud up to 3
Mbaud. Achievable non-standard baud rates are calculated as follows -

Baud Rate = 3000000 / (n + x)

Where ‘n’ can be any integer between 2 and 16,384 ( = 2^14 ) and ‘x’ can be a sub-integer of the value 0,
0.125, 0.25, 0.375, 0.5, 0.625, 0.75, or 0.875. When n = 1, x = 0, i.e. baud rate divisors with values
between 1 and 2 are not possible.

ryanrs posted:

Setting my serial adapter to the RK3399's weird default baud rate of 1,500,000.

code:

560 ~$ stty -f /dev/tty.usbserial-AB0KNDIJ 115200
561 ~$ stty -f /dev/tty.usbserial-AB0KNDIJ 230400
562 ~$ stty -f /dev/tty.usbserial-AB0KNDIJ 1500000
stty: tcsetattr: Invalid argument
563 ~$ stty -f /dev/tty.usbserial-AB0KNDIJ 1843200
564 ~$ stty -f /dev/tty.usbserial-AB0KNDIJ 3686400
stty: tcsetattr: Invalid argument

gently caress, it doesn't like the non-standard 1.5M baud rate. But 1.5M is not actually that weird. USB controllers have an internal 48 MHz clock to do USB stuff. That is usually generated from a 12 MHz crystal. Generally the serial port baud rate generator is fed from the 48 MHz USB clock, perhaps divided down a bit.

Cracking open the Baofeng adapter, the only chip inside is a FTDI FT232RL which does indeed feed a 48 MHz clock to its baud rate generator.

So 1.5M baud should be possible. Maybe it's Mac OS that doesn't like setting the weird baud rate? Time to tag in the Rock Pi S from page 1, the one with the wifi driver problems. Under Linux, 1.5M baud works fine.

code:

rock@rockpis:/dev$ sudo stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
rock@rockpis:/dev$ sudo stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 1500000
rock@rockpis:/dev$ sudo stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 1500001
stty: invalid argument ‘1500001’
Try 'stty --help' for more information.

So that worked. Here's the full boot log from the RockPro64. No obvious PCIe errors, though.

Hmmmm. Any ideas?

rotor posted:

ok its great but you have to use an older version of gnome and its not worth the tradeoff. Maybe someday i'll try it with xfce or whatever when i have the patience or requirement to move off what i have but until then ima just go back to the way it was. If you use KDE it seems like a no-brainer to use it.