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John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.
I like Geop and Vicas but that LP drove me nuts because at least early on Geop goes at an agonizing crawl expecting instant death around every corner, and obviously Vicas wasn't going to spoil anything, which led to a vicious cycle of "oh boy, I bet something's waiting around this corner to kill me dead :ohdear:" - > "I dunno, maybe? Gonna have to find out..." - > "Phew, there was nothing...uh oh, what about this next corner?? :ohdear: :ohdear:"

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Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Kay Plays Dark Souls is still the gold standard to me, mostly because while it starts a bit slow she really picks up on connecting things like locations and items down the road.
First episode was this one I think, again it starts slow and it's been years since I watched it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaTUtYVcSww

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Zedd posted:

Kay Plays Dark Souls is still the gold standard to me, mostly because while it starts a bit slow she really picks up on connecting things like locations and items down the road.
First episode was this one I think, again it starts slow and it's been years since I watched it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaTUtYVcSww

This is charming. Fun to watch her beat her head against every failsafe in the tutorial level.

E: “oh wait, these guys come back if you sit around, I guess??” Tee hee

The Kingfish fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Apr 10, 2024

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


She just beat asylum demon without rolling knowing how to roll

The Kingfish fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Apr 10, 2024

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Did everything except Gywn on my dex/pyro/balder sword build. Onward to DLC! Artorias is definitely a step up in difficulty. Haven't quite figured out how to consistently stagger his aoe. Ground up my dex to 40 thinking I'll lob fireballs at him faster.

Speaking of fires, wowzers pyromancy owns vs everything not fire themed.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

You can burn down Artorias with one optimized fire tempest and a few fireballs if you want to go easy mode.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



Speaking of blind videos, I wonder if people that started with later From games have an easier or harder time going to this one on average.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

SeANMcBAY posted:

Speaking of blind videos, I wonder if people that started with later From games have an easier or harder time going to this one on average.

I originally bounced off hard when the prepare to die edition came out. Then came back now after Elden Ring.

My take was it made DS1 easier--especially the bosses. Things move way slower than ER (except Gywn/DLC). Attack patterns are simpler and it feels like the parry window is larger. None of that delayed swing motion either. DS1 has more dungeon challenges with nothing like the Anor Londo rooftop or Blighttown descent in ER.

dsf
Jul 1, 2004

Mustached Demon posted:

I originally bounced off hard when the prepare to die edition came out. Then came back now after Elden Ring.

My take was it made DS1 easier--especially the bosses. Things move way slower than ER (except Gywn/DLC). Attack patterns are simpler and it feels like the parry window is larger. None of that delayed swing motion either. DS1 has more dungeon challenges with nothing like the Anor Londo rooftop or Blighttown descent in ER.

my experience was pretty much the same. never could get into any of the souls games until I finally played through ER and 'got it'

Had a pretty easy first playthrough of DS1, died way more to ledges and the environment then any of the bosses at least until I hit the DLC.

Ive beat DS1 4 times since then and its crazy how much shorter it feels once you know how to run through the levels. First time through Sens fortress probably took me a good 2-3 hours, now I can run through it in about 10-15 minutes.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
Got back into Elden Ring a week or two ago, and I remembered I installed DS1Remastered because I never did the DLC when I played through PTDE (didn't want to tackle it on NG+).

I left off in the Catacombs, and managed to beat Gaping Dragon after a few tries. Once you manage to cut the tail off, you can trivialize the boss by just waiting for the slam attack and then circling around to the tail stump and attacking after the charge. Most annoying part is just how long it takes to finish the fight.

Another reason why I picked up DS1R again is to do co-op. With Elden Ring, I'm playing that on PS5, and I'm not currently subscribed to PSPlus, so I don't have access to multiplayer. I've put down a couple summons signs near the Catacombs bonfire and near the the Gaping Dragon, but so far, I've only been summoned once after ten minutes of waiting. Does DS1R have something like the connectivity mod for PTDE that'll show you who's in range?

I'm also wondering if I should work my way back up to the surface and do some prep before descending to Blighttown. Right now, the most powerful weapon I've got is the Long Sword +4. However, the character I'm playing I'm trying to gear towards using magic & pyromancy. A long term goal is to get the Moonlight Greatsword and rank up in the Warriors of Sunlight covenant (I know those abilities scale off FTH, but I've always wanted to throw lightning bolts).

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー
Not sure if you're aware, but pyromancy in DS1 has no stat scaling at all - it's purely based off your weapon (aka flame) enchantment and so the only interaction with magic is how they compete for attunnement slots. I suppose if you're cranking dex for cast speed there's that too, but that's a lot of stat smearing.

Maybe the Gaping dragon just isn't a popular spot? It's in the middle of nowhere iirc.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Gaping Dragon is an optional boss. I think many seasoned players get the Master key and go to Blighttown through the Valley of Drakes instead.

It’s also one of the easiest bosses in the game, so not a good spot for jolly cooperation.

Best spot to farm Sunlight medals is probably Anor Londo on the way to Ornstein & Smough.

Simply Simon
Nov 6, 2010

📡scanning🛰️ for good game 🎮design🦔🦔🦔
Gaping Dragon already has an enormous HP pool for that stage of the game, I'm definitely not adding more by summoning someone who might die to the first charge attack like a dummy

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
Wrong thread

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.
DS1R isn't necessarily a ghost town, but I would not expect a ton of online activity outside the greatest hits. Which is pretty much just O+S in my experience.

I struggled to get bites during Return to Lordran. Random off-season, good luck.

Elden Lord Godfrey
Mar 4, 2022
Gaping dragon is easy. And I summon for easy bosses like him, or Bell Gargoyles, or Last Giant, or most of the DS2 roster, or any of the various mini dungeon bosses in Elden Ring, specifically to give other people Content.

I will also summon for Midir specifically because it makes the boss more difficult.

Everyone else, I find more fun solo.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Serephina posted:

Not sure if you're aware, but pyromancy in DS1 has no stat scaling at all - it's purely based off your weapon (aka flame) enchantment and so the only interaction with magic is how they compete for attunnement slots. I suppose if you're cranking dex for cast speed there's that too, but that's a lot of stat smearing.

Maybe the Gaping dragon just isn't a popular spot? It's in the middle of nowhere iirc.

I thought Pyromancy scaled with you current humanity stat?


John Murdoch posted:

DS1R isn't necessarily a ghost town, but I would not expect a ton of online activity outside the greatest hits. Which is pretty much just O+S in my experience.

I struggled to get bites during Return to Lordran. Random off-season, good luck.

axolotl farmer posted:

Gaping Dragon is an optional boss. I think many seasoned players get the Master key and go to Blighttown through the Valley of Drakes instead.

It’s also one of the easiest bosses in the game, so not a good spot for jolly cooperation.

Best spot to farm Sunlight medals is probably Anor Londo on the way to Ornstein & Smough.

I got a second match-up after my post, but yeah, bosses like O+S are probably more popular.

O+S is something I'm worried about, because my goal is to get all the achievements, and part of that is defeating both of them separately, since you need both their souls for the rare weapons, and you can't really coordinate that in co-op.

Volte
Oct 4, 2004

woosh woosh

Max Wilco posted:

I thought Pyromancy scaled with you current humanity stat?
That's Chaos damage, and that doesn't apply to the Chaos pyromancies

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

SeANMcBAY posted:

Speaking of blind videos, I wonder if people that started with later From games have an easier or harder time going to this one on average.

I'm playing DS1 now and it's certainly easier. Annoying that I keep getting far, and it's too far, locked door. I like to play them pretty blind, but I've never gotten all red lights before in a castle game.

Simply Simon
Nov 6, 2010

📡scanning🛰️ for good game 🎮design🦔🦔🦔

Mescal posted:

I'm playing DS1 now and it's certainly easier. Annoying that I keep getting far, and it's too far, locked door. I like to play them pretty blind, but I've never gotten all red lights before in a castle game.
Is this what going hollow is

Vavrek
Mar 2, 2013

I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?

John Murdoch posted:

I like Geop and Vicas but that LP drove me nuts because at least early on Geop goes at an agonizing crawl expecting instant death around every corner, and obviously Vicas wasn't going to spoil anything, which led to a vicious cycle of "oh boy, I bet something's waiting around this corner to kill me dead :ohdear:" - > "I dunno, maybe? Gonna have to find out..." - > "Phew, there was nothing...uh oh, what about this next corner?? :ohdear: :ohdear:"
I've been rewatching it as I sift through a vast array of archived files I put together over the years, and I'm surprised how many sessions it took before Kuvo showed up as a commentator. The early episodes feel like a PB&J that's missing one of the ingredients.


But, that's not why I came to you today, thread. I'm trying to find a particular Dark Souls video that I can remember and describe pretty clearly, but I have no idea what the name of the video was.

So:
Video follows a male player character. Heavyset or small head body type. At the start, he runs around a bit at the top of the Asylum. Walks through the fog door, looks around a little, doesn't look down at all. Eventually, the Asylum Demon jumps up to slam him off the ledge with some comedic musical sting (it's some standard stock "daant daant daannaa"). Cut to Firelink Shrine. Camera alternates between a closeup on Crestfallen's face and a closeup on the player character's face. Dramatic shot of the player character walking away from Firelink, toward the camera. Montage of the player character getting clowned on by a succession of enemies throughout the game. (But like, progressing forward through the game.) The ending sequence is of riposting each of the Black Knights in the Kiln. Just the riposte, you don't see the parry. After each one, the player character is wearing one more piece of the Giants set. (The editing is tight enough that it looks like they just appear, because you're seeing the riposte repeated without delay.) I don't remember if it includes Gwyn.

This has been bugging me for a while and I have no idea what search terms to use. I realized that the best route, as in many things, was to ask goons.

Cavelcade
Dec 9, 2015

I'm actually a boy!



Vavrek posted:


This has been bugging me for a while and I have no idea what search terms to use. I realized that the best route, as in many things, was to ask goons.

I'm pretty sure it's Welcome to Dark Souls, the music is "Music to Drive By" by Alan Moorhouse and the video's been unlisted, but not deleted.

Your instincts were right about where to go. May they lead you as well in the times to come. Hahahahaha!

Cavelcade fucked around with this message at 23:18 on May 19, 2024

Regy Rusty
Apr 26, 2010

SHISHKABOB posted:

Geop's LP got me into dark souls but 75% because HE NEVER LOOKED AT THE drat SCENERY

John Murdoch posted:

I like Geop and Vicas but that LP drove me nuts because at least early on Geop goes at an agonizing crawl expecting instant death around every corner, and obviously Vicas wasn't going to spoil anything, which led to a vicious cycle of "oh boy, I bet something's waiting around this corner to kill me dead :ohdear:" - > "I dunno, maybe? Gonna have to find out..." - > "Phew, there was nothing...uh oh, what about this next corner?? :ohdear: :ohdear:"

I owe an enormous debt of gratitude to this LP because I didn't even make it through the undead burg section for exactly these two reasons as it infuriated me enough to say gently caress it and just play the game myself. Nothing like watching someone play a game wrong differently than I would to get me over my apprehension.

Vavrek
Mar 2, 2013

I like your style hombre, but this is no laughing matter. Assault on a police officer. Theft of police property. Illegal possession of a firearm. FIVE counts of attempted murder. That comes to... 29 dollars and 40 cents. Cash, cheque, or credit card?

Cavelcade posted:

I'm pretty sure it's Welcome to Dark Souls, the music is "Music to Drive By" by Alan Moorhouse and the video's been unlisted, but not deleted.

Your instincts were right about where to go. May they let you as well in the times to come. Hahahahaha!

Got it in one! Thank you so much, I love that video.

Cavelcade
Dec 9, 2015

I'm actually a boy!



Vavrek posted:

Got it in one! Thank you so much, I love that video.

It's genuinely amazingly well edited, the main challenge was remembering the name of the song. I always think it's "Music to Drive to", not by.

drainpipe
May 17, 2004

AAHHHHHHH!!!!
I got this game two weeks ago and am having a blast. I had asked the DS2 and Elden Rings threads if I should start with DS1 or ER, being someone who's never played a FromSoft game, and am glad I went with the majority opinion and started at the beginning (ignoring Demon's Souls).

I've been getting back into gaming recently after taking a 15-20 year break, so I'm definitely not acclimated to this difficulty, but the game clicked for me at some point during Undead Parish (although I did still have to summon Lautrec for the Gargoyles). Just made it to Anor Londo this morning, and am really glad for the change of scenery. Looking forward to the rest of the game and hopefully the trilogy.

drainpipe fucked around with this message at 19:17 on May 28, 2024

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
Nice, this is an excellent game to get back into gaming with imo. Keep us updated!

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



drainpipe posted:

I got this game two weeks ago and am having a blast. I had asked the DS2 and Elden Rings threads if I should start with DS1 or ER, being someone who's never played a FromSoft game, and am glad I went with the majority opinion and started at the beginning (ignoring Demon's Souls).

I've been getting back into gaming recently after taking a 15-20 year break, so I'm definitely not acclimated to this difficulty, but the game clicked for me at some point during Undead Parish (although I did still have to summon Lautrec for the Gargoyles). Just made it to Anor Londo this morning, and am really glad for the change of scenery. Looking forward to the rest of the game and hopefully the trilogy.

That’s very impressive for not playing games for so long. Glad you’re having fun.

Minotaurus Rex
Feb 25, 2007

if this accounts a rockin'
don't come a knockin'
Yeah only two weeks? Had the game for months before getting that far

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

drainpipe posted:

I got this game two weeks ago and am having a blast. I had asked the DS2 and Elden Rings threads if I should start with DS1 or ER, being someone who's never played a FromSoft game, and am glad I went with the majority opinion and started at the beginning (ignoring Demon's Souls).

I've been getting back into gaming recently after taking a 15-20 year break, so I'm definitely not acclimated to this difficulty, but the game clicked for me at some point during Undead Parish (although I did still have to summon Lautrec for the Gargoyles). Just made it to Anor Londo this morning, and am really glad for the change of scenery. Looking forward to the rest of the game and hopefully the trilogy.

Summoning allies isn't a failure to "get good" or anything. It's a tool the game gives you to help, and there are a bunch of different ways it works for different purposes. Grabbing a friend (PC or NPC) for a boss is just as important to getting the game as learning your weapons, getting good at dodging boss attack patterns, etc.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

Arivia posted:

Summoning allies isn't a failure to "get good" or anything. It's a tool the game gives you to help, and there are a bunch of different ways it works for different purposes. Grabbing a friend (PC or NPC) for a boss is just as important to getting the game as learning your weapons, getting good at dodging boss attack patterns, etc.

Yeah. If it's in the game, it's meant to be used. Do all the challenge runs you like after your first (hopefully blind for maximum enjoyment!) run.

drainpipe
May 17, 2004

AAHHHHHHH!!!!
Thanks, yeah, for some reason I had set an initial goal of completing the game "solo", but I should probably give myself leeway, especially on a first run.

I've been trying to keep it blind, but I really like the game so I want to read more about stuff I just got past in the game, and of course some upcoming stuff ends up getting spoiled as well. I'm still mostly in the dark about future stuff besides some names that have been repeated but without much context.

Minotaurus Rex posted:

Yeah only two weeks? Had the game for months before getting that far

I'm on my summer break, so I've had more time on my hand recently (still not too much with a toddler around).

I am thinking of slowing down a little. One thing people raved about DS1 was the world design, and I completely see what they mean. It's so intricate and impressive, and I just want to live in the world longer, so I don't think I'm gonna try to get to the endgame as quick as possible.

Horace Kinch
Aug 15, 2007

There are sunbros out there just waiting for you to summon them for bosses. They need those medals, and you get a dead boss. Everyone wins!

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Gargoyles are probably one of the harder bosses in the game for a first timer. You're just probably starting to get the hang of combat and the systems then they toss you onto a roof to fight two pretty tough enemies at the same time.

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John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.
And there's a decent chance you're facing them down with a crappy weapon.

They are nice enough to give you some lightning resin if you poke around though.

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