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Whatever new mechanics they add one thing is certain: Someone will figure out a way to handle them that takes 3x the work, fails half the time, and can be explained in one fewer sentences so it gets labeled "Braindead".
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lines posted:Enumeration doesn't explode with too many people I think. E6S had 4 Enumerations at the same time, so someone is going to explode if you do it wrong
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Apr 21, 2024 18:00
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there's definitely enumerations in TEA that require 3 people and fail with 4
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Apr 21, 2024 18:12
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Enumeration itself is also rehashed from T8 Ballistic Missile, except there's actually an indicator that lets you know how many people need to be stacked instead of some vague circle sizes.
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Apr 21, 2024 18:35
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Tamba posted:E6S had 4 Enumerations at the same time, so someone is going to explode if you do it wrong Oh for sure (same in Barb Ex), but if you end up with three people in one enumeration then it's someone else who dies.
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is any of this in normal content or is it all savage and EX?
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Apr 21, 2024 19:04
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enums were in a6n iirc a8n as well
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Vitamean posted:enums were in a6n iirc Specifically Swindler (one of the four little guys, high/low) but I don't think he usually lives long enough to use it.
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Eden normal - Garuda/Ifrit - were another semi recent usage of it. Not typically called Enumeration. In traditional FFXIV style that was one of the earliest usages of it and the name kinda stuck around whenever that mechanic was used again. I'm not sure if the current blue marker has been around the whole time though.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Not typically called Enumeration. In traditional FFXIV style that was one of the earliest usages of it and the name kinda stuck around whenever that mechanic was used again. I'm not sure if the current blue marker has been around the whole time though. That's why I'm not sure if Swindler lives long enough to use it, because I've done those fights a bunch and I'm struggling to remember what it looked like.
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I'm not annoyed by these mechanics appearing in normal content, mostly that it's become so predictable how the mechanic is going to get upgraded in the extreme/savage version. If the boss does one of a left/right combo for example, it's almost guaranteed that you'll have to just dodge the other way right afterwards to the point where it's not even really a gotcha anymore. Halone's Tetrapagos in Euphrosyne is kind of the embodiment of what the mechanic is, while The Twelve's First/Second/Third Form cleaves are a much more interesting take on the mechanic. But there's room for both of those to be actually good extreme/savage level mechanics if they were like 5 times as fast or if they fired at the same time the tell was going off for the next one. At the same time, they've been doing these kinds of show and then resolve mechanics as far back as Alexander (A10S Single/Double/Triple charge) so they need to think of something new.
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We did it    e: (but I'm not replacing my Mahjong Master title) Tamba fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Apr 21, 2024 |
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Apr 21, 2024 20:44
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nice, congrats on that
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I loved femhroth and was all set to fantasia over but man I do not like how they look in profile, like... rat guys.
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Apr 21, 2024 21:05
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Congrats on the ultimate 
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The 2nd boss of ARF always had enumeration but it had a weird marker and no one ever did the mechanic right in my experience. I'm pretty sure it exploded if you stacked more than two people and the wiki says so as well. It now has a proper marker since the dungeon was changed in 6.3 (?) but people don't know what it means at this point in the game, so they keep exploding.
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Is there a fast way to find out which Regional Folklore books I have other than hunting down each vendor? EDIT: found it. You don't need to deal with trading for scrip vouchers and the Splendors Vendor, Rowena's Representative in Foundation/Kugane/Crystarium has a "gathering supplies" section where you can buy them for straight tokens. Bruceski fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Apr 21, 2024 |
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aers posted:ffxiv gear color is rendered by indexing into a color table that is basically just 16 rows of information including the, well, color. when you dye a piece of gear, it just replaces the color in some of the rows based on some flags, which is how only some parts of gear get dyed. I realize the answer might be a little technical for the thread but I am genuinely curious: how can you tell that both bits are for dyes?
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Just finished feast of famine, I am fully fish brained now.
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theironjef posted:I loved femhroth and was all set to fantasia over but man I do not like how they look in profile, like... rat guys. So what you're saying is We need Emet to fantasia to catmom
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theironjef posted:I loved femhroth and was all set to fantasia over but man I do not like how they look in profile, like... rat guys. This is the FF9 expansion...!
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Bruceski posted:Is there a fast way to find out which Regional Folklore books I have other than hunting down each vendor? It'll also say learned in the gathering log over the entry for the items if you've learned it without needing to visit vendor
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gay devil posted:It'll also say learned in the gathering log over the entry for the items if you've learned it without needing to visit vendor Do they even show up in the gathering log if you don't have them? My first clue I didn't was when I tried to search for items that were coming up blank.
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Maybe this just applies to fish? Most info is replaced by question marks but they're still in the list, not 100% sure about others. E: Just logged in to check, this does only show in the fishing log not general gathering log, sorry! gay devil fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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Xerophyte posted:I realize the answer might be a little technical for the thread but I am genuinely curious: how can you tell that both bits are for dyes? the code does code:
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orcane posted:The 2nd boss of ARF always had enumeration but it had a weird marker and no one ever did the mechanic right in my experience. I'm pretty sure it exploded if you stacked more than two people and the wiki says so as well. It's a callback to the same mechanic in T8 of Coil that I mentioned above. On launch I had a friend who powerleveled through the story and was one of the earliest players hitting that dungeon. Since that meant only other hardcore players were also playing it meant that people who had also cleared Coil saw the mechanic with him and actually resolved it properly.
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orcane posted:It now has a proper marker since the dungeon was changed in 6.3 (?) but people don't know what it means at this point in the game, so they keep exploding. (seriously they have to either give you a raise role action, a reraise status, or make those paired circle aoes hit way less hard, because a sprout healer will absolutely eat poo poo on the first mechanic of Ascian Prime ten times)
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prine numbers can be intimidating and ascian prime numbers are no exception
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I sometimes wonder how there are still tanks in expert roulette who approach a trash pack, stop, start moving again, and then agro the trash with their face before pausing to drop five AoEs and only then moving on to the next.
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I always drop two aoes because inevitably the BLM will have cast thunder or something or the monk will use his gap closer and both invariably will not target the lead mob that I just hit with a tomahawk god drat it. So I need the second aoe to pick up the spares.
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let them run the mobs into the pack. they've got manaward/second wind.
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There's are so many who I wish would just be consistent about it because there are so many who get to the final pack, I'm on Ninja and I'm like okay so I can start doing poo poo he'll yeah okay ten chi jin doton... then 2 gcds later they pull the final trash pack all the way to the wall away from me
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I mean, I'm gonna be dropping my full dancer raid opener on that trash pack as soon as you hit it (unless it's gonna be less than two minutes to reach the next boss even without it). I can take a punch or two on the way to the second pack if some of them aren't pissed enough at the tank though. Maybe it's pubbie tank PTSD from grouping with black mages who can't take that punch. To which I'd advise the BLM to work on their gear so they can alpha strike and also live through it.
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After running dungeons as a Tank while using Duty Support/Trusts, I now have a special keybind on my Logitech G3 key that will select the first DPS in the party list, and target their target. The dumbass AI seems to just target whomthefuckever it wants, and I never know who to focus on. Hell, sometimes, the first DPS will be the ONLY one on a target, and the other DPS and Healer will be on a different one, but I won't know until I see that one's health drop waaay below the one I have targeted. I HATE the targeting system the AI uses. The good news is, because of how I have the Party List displayed, when I'm playing DPS, that key will target the Tank's target, so if nothing else, I'm always on your target.
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Thundarr posted:I sometimes wonder how there are still tanks in expert roulette who approach a trash pack, stop, start moving again, and then agro the trash with their face before pausing to drop five AoEs and only then moving on to the next. That's how Trust/Duty Support train them to do it. You must have aggro+ on a whole pack before continuing or they will peel off one mob and stand there to fight it. They will not follow and bring it to you.
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FuturePastNow posted:That's how Trust/Duty Support train them to do it. You must have aggro+ on a whole pack before continuing or they will peel off one mob and stand there to fight it. They will not follow and bring it to you. Yeah, that pisses me off, too. I'll hit the entire group with an AOE, and ONE fucker will ignore me, so I have to focus on that one while still using AOE on the rest to keep them on me. The AI still needs work.
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Kheldarn posted:Yeah, that pisses me off, too. I'll hit the entire group with an AOE, and ONE fucker will ignore me, so I have to focus on that one while still using AOE on the rest to keep them on me. Meh, cycling through the target list and spamming Shield Lobs while running to the next pack is good enough. I do that in non-Trust runs, too. Always Be Casting, after all. Sometimes I'll throw two at my first target before cycling if things gets squirrelly, since that's usually the one the NPCs go for first, but it's usually not a problem. FuturePastNow posted:That's how Trust/Duty Support train them to do it. You must have aggro+ on a whole pack before continuing or they will peel off one mob and stand there to fight it. They will not follow and bring it to you. Also, the healer will break off and run to you, but if you popped Sprint there's a good chance you're too far ahead and they left too late, so unless you immediately turned around and ran back after grabbing the second pack or saved your invuln, you're going back to the entrance. Onean fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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limp dick calvin posted:Just finished feast of famine, I am fully fish brained now. I have less than 100 fish total still left to get, but Namitaro is one of them 
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Onean posted:Meh, cycling through the target list and spamming Shield Lobs while running to the next pack is good enough. I do that in non-Trust runs, too. Always Be Casting, after all. Sometimes I'll throw two at my first target before cycling if things gets squirrelly, since that's usually the one the NPCs go for first, but it's usually not a problem. Since the Trusts will just single-target focus one enemy at first, you can also spot that enemy (the one with health dropping faster than the others) and range attack it while running. I'm not sure how you cycle through the enemy list though, I just click on them
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One pull in the Aitiascope has two packs so far apart the trust NPCs will "reset" and teleport to you if you run ahead all the way. If you're not tanking that's pretty funny because you will have all the aggro of the initial pack until your tank friend will pick them up anew. The first time I ran back to where I thought the group was, oh wait there's no group but there are four or five very angry red dots on the enemy list trying to murder me, where the hell is Urianger  I hate how the EW leveling dungeons have so many forced single pulls though.
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