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King Carnivore
Dec 17, 2007

Graveyard Disciple
Looks like there’s some forward momentum on the Hillcoat Blood Meridian project.

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Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
Maybe now people will stop making endless internet threads to speculate on who would be the best person to play The Judge.

Anyway. I love The Proposition but I just don't think this movie should ever be made. Leave it be.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

Jewmanji posted:

Maybe now people will stop making endless internet threads to speculate on who would be the best person to play The Judge.

Anyway. I love The Proposition but I just don't think this movie should ever be made. Leave it be.

Yeah. It's just a better book than a film and an adaptation would require so much editing that it would be something different.

I mean unless they went full Killers and made 3 and a half hours.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
If anything I feel like All The Pretty Horses is due for another attempt. That seems like a slam dunk but what do I know?

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca

Jewmanji posted:

If anything I feel like All The Pretty Horses is due for another attempt. That seems like a slam dunk but what do I know?
They don't even have to do any work. Just release the Billy Bob cut with the original music.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang




im ok with it. hillcoat is a good choice but if it sucks i just wont watch it. cant ruin my idea of the book

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Finally reading The Crossing.

Have you always been crazy?
I don't know. I never was much put to the test before today.
Hoe old are you?
Sixteen.
Sixteen.
Yessir.
Well you ain't got the sense God gave a goose. Did you know that?
You may be right
How do you expect your horse to tolerate bunch of nonsense such as this.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Having read the Border trilogy I really wonder whst McCarthy's deal with Mexico and Mexicans was. Like according to his books Mexico's population consists of 99,99% villains and 0,01% hot women that wants to gently caress John Grady Cole.

Alhazred fucked around with this message at 11:04 on May 3, 2024

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
Uhhhh maybe you should read the books again. Every time one of the characters stops in a town someone is there to give them a plate of beans and tortillas, and another person is there to give them the lecture of a lifetime

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

I think there’s an essay to be written somewhere about our boy Cormac’s relationship to cafes. Our detached masculine characters off in the wilderness always seem to find one.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Proust Malone posted:

I think there’s an essay to be written somewhere about our boy Cormac’s relationship to cafes. Our detached masculine characters off in the wilderness always seem to find one.

ive never thought about it, but yeah they do hang out in cafes a lot

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Proust Malone posted:

I think there’s an essay to be written somewhere about our boy Cormac’s relationship to cafes. Our detached masculine characters off in the wilderness always seem to find one.

The bit in the crossing where the get chicken and its terrible and they should of gotten the goat

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
All these cowboys are drinking coffee at night I don't understand how they sleep.

This isn't a bit I literally don't understand.

bengy81
May 8, 2010

algebra testes posted:

All these cowboys are drinking coffee at night I don't understand how they sleep.

This isn't a bit I literally don't understand.

Maybe they all have untreated ADHD?

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

algebra testes posted:

All these cowboys are drinking coffee at night I don't understand how they sleep.

This isn't a bit I literally don't understand.

Long days, lots of physical activity, relatively weak coffee. It’s really hard to overstate how much stronger we brew our coffee then they did before European brewing methods started popping up in the 70s/80s

Flournival Dixon
Jan 29, 2024
My dad used to drink two liters of green tea every night in the three or four hours before he went to bed. I think having a physically demanding job helps you go to sleep rather than having a job where you're On The Computer for 8 hours (also i bet oldschool coffee was being brewed many times from the same grounds and weak as hell besides).

I just finished the first two border books and can't see him as writing Mexico as being anything other than a hard place to live in in the shadow of severe conflict and oppression in which many people still manage to be charitable and good even though they and the main characters are subject to the whims of random violence at the hands of the minority who are powerful and corrupt or just opportunist bandits. Basically everyone the characters run into has a different opinion on what's going on with the world and why so many people are useless or evil and but everyone's always written as very human and real (except I dunno how many huge soliloquys people give to strangers in real life but maybe that was more common before electronic entertainment) . It's also fun when someone has a big story about how god's creation exists in darkness and light only exists in the eyes of humanity or a guy who thinks god is unarguably real and also a dickhead who personally hosed him over and he lives in a broken building for a decade to try and prove it to everyone.

It borders on being a little bit too into the idea that the oppressed and exploited can weather anything and still maintain a nobility and goodness no matter what but I guess he wrote these before cultural neoliberalism really kicked in and brought true inhumanity to humanity.

I guess that's mostly the second book though, the first one is a bit more villainous but it's still mostly just evil rich people who can't tolerate transgression of the class system in which their fortune and power are entrenched paying off abused prisoners with nothing to lose along with corrupt police officials, none of the villains in the book really represent the common mexican person as much as they represent the systems of power in a country without strong cybernetic legal control over the identity and legal position of foreigners without a lot of social power to throw around and protect themselves with.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

I guess I’m almost to the end of my reread of the border trilogy and they really do hit different at this age than they did when I was young

I don’t know if I even noticed this passage as remarkable when I was 22 but it’s just been rolling around in my head all morning

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003
Cormac has written that same passage in so many different ways across his whole oeuvre. I don’t mean this as a criticism. That’s like the apotheosis of his whole work, imo.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Larry Cum Free posted:

Ken Jeong legitimately might make a good Judge Holden in the film adaptation that will never happen .

Was watching clips of John Goodman in Barton Fink and it really is a shame HBO didn't pounce on this poo poo 20 years ago. Still think a movie is a bad idea, just make it a mini-series, you'll never beat the mpaa.

Anyway why I really came here: I haven't read them and don't have the means to in the short term, but is there any way to read the epilogue to cities on the plain? I have no clue how long it is (BM's was super short) or I'd just ask someone to type it out but I can't find it anywhere in its whole

Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 03:26 on May 19, 2024

Flutch
Jun 26, 2008

Sounds straight out of the Hermit scene in BM.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Milo and POTUS posted:

Was watching clips of John Goodman in Barton Fink and it really is a shame HBO didn't pounce on this poo poo 20 years ago. Still think a movie is a bad idea, just make it a mini-series, you'll never beat the mpaa.

Anyway why I really came here: I haven't read them and don't have the means to in the short term, but is there any way to read the epilogue to cities on the plain? I have no clue how long it is (BM's was super short) or I'd just ask someone to type it out but I can't find it anywhere in its whole

It’s about 30 pages give or take, not super long but more than anyone is going to want to transcribe for you, yeah

Jewmanji posted:

Cormac has written that same passage in so many different ways across his whole oeuvre. I don’t mean this as a criticism. That’s like the apotheosis of his whole work, imo.

I agree that it’s something that permeates his work throughout but I was just taken by the directness and succinctness of that line especially already knowing where everything was going

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Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca

Milo and POTUS posted:

Anyway why I really came here: I haven't read them and don't have the means to in the short term, but is there any way to read the epilogue to cities on the plain? I have no clue how long it is (BM's was super short) or I'd just ask someone to type it out but I can't find it anywhere in its whole
Grabbed an epub, converted to rtf, pasted it in Pastebin.

Didn't check against the book for accuracy, but it seems to be the right thing.

https://pastebin.com/m6hanGqF

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