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If ai is so smart why do I need to press a button on my mouse. It reminds me of that ai fridge that starts beeping if you leave the door open instead of just closing the door.
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# ? Apr 19, 2024 15:11 |
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 12:32 |
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Nolgthorn posted:If ai is so smart why do I need to press a button on my mouse. It reminds me of that ai fridge that starts beeping if you leave the door open instead of just closing the door. Fridges' doors will never close automatically until they can detect with 100% confidence that there isn't a toddler or a pet inside.
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# ? Apr 20, 2024 18:40 |
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Thanks Ants posted:No no no no no no no no Oh my God
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# ? Apr 20, 2024 19:10 |
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I know this is not a tech support focused thread but I figure there are a lot of nerds who know about mice in here. I've had my razer deathadder v2 mini for about a year and a half and it's worked peachy. Two days ago I noticed a weird blip while I was sitting nearby where I could hear the windows USB device "unplug" chime, and a moment later the "plug-in" chime. I figured it was nothing and forgot about it, and It only happened once while I was present. A few hours later while playing helldivers the unplug chime plays again and the mouse goes unresponsive. After unplugging it and switching it around to a different USB port it seemed to fix itself. Today, the same thing happened and this time it seems properly broken... Except the mouse still works just fine on the other PC and laptop in the house. The symptoms are actually quite bizarre-- at first I was able to plug it in and get the chime, it would pop up in the list of USB devices, and then a second later disappear and become unresponsive while the lights on the mouse remained on. Then, if I immediately unplugged it and put it back in it would not chime and there would be no light... But if I waited like 5 minutes and tried again it would once again do the thing where it registered for a second. At one point in the midst of this furious plugging and replugging the mouse actually seemed to come back to life and the cursor worked for a sustained amount of time, until I replugged it once more for science and it went back to being broken. Currently I simply cannot get any response at all from plugging it into any port. I'll reiterate that the backup mouse and all my other USB devices are working just fine so it doesn't seem like a problem with bad ports, and the razer mouse seems to function properly on other devices. I have rebooted the machine several times with various configurations of mice present and not present during power up. I don't use the synapse software because it seems like junk. I'm so mystified I don't even know what to try at this point, I'm about to throw up my hands and just buy something else.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 06:05 |
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Try uninstalling Helldivers 2 and see what happens. There are reports of system instability from the anticheat always running even if the game itself is not, and you've basically covered everything else besides ye olde sfc /scannow.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 06:18 |
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Scoss posted:I know this is not a tech support focused thread but I figure there are a lot of nerds who know about mice in here. and uncheck all of these within the properties tab here:
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 06:52 |
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Unfortunately, no change in behavior on the power tweaks or from briefly uninstalling Helldivers. Assuming I can't figure it out, might as well ask for recommendations for mice under $50 (wired is fine) I had a Logitech 203 and the left button started doubleclicking after barely a year. I switched to Razer because I heard they used different switches that were less prone to breaking down, but instead the mouse wheel became a bit funky (giving mixed up-down inputs unless I'm really spinning the wheel) had me thinking about replacing it before this latest issue made it nonfunctional, so I think I'll be avoiding Razer this time. I just don't think i'm very fussy about size/shape/weight. The 203 had a good shape and so long as it has maybe two thumb buttons I don't care at all about any frills beyond that. Scoss fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Apr 26, 2024 |
# ? Apr 26, 2024 07:19 |
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It kind of sounds like you may want smaller mice but the Logitech G502 and Razer Basilisk V3 (both wired versions) are about $45-50. They are fairly big mice, but not huge. The Basilisk is kind of a copy of the G502 shape: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G502-Performance-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B07GBZ4Q68/ https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Basilisk-Customizable-Ergonomic-Gaming/dp/B09C13PZX7/ If you want more of a smaller ambidextrous shape like you've had previously the G203 and the Deathadder Essential kind of still fit that bill: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-LIGHTSYNC-Wired-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B07YN82X3B/ https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Essential-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B094PS5RZQ/ Glorious model o is ~$52, has a lot of holes to bring down weight or whatever: https://www.amazon.com/Glorious-PC-Gaming-Race-GOM-White/dp/B07VRQWBMR/ If you want to look at optical switches (only the main two buttons will be optical) that in theory won't ever have a problem, the optical version of the G502 has its white wired version on sale for $60 right now (black is $75): https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wired-Gaming-Mouse-Optical-Mechanical/dp/B0943J7HJG/ Razer also have an optical switch wired mouse for about $40, the Cobra. Kind of barebones but might be worth consideration: https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Cobra-Wired-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0C51J2ZXN/ I'm sure goons may have some other recommendations, I'm mostly familiar with the logitech stuff since that's what I have a lot of.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 11:57 |
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Scoss posted:I had a Logitech 203 and the left button started doubleclicking after barely a year. I switched to Razer because I heard they used different switches that were less prone to breaking down, but instead the mouse wheel became a bit funky (giving mixed up-down inputs unless I'm really spinning the wheel) had me thinking about replacing it before this latest issue made it nonfunctional, so I think I'll be avoiding Razer this time.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 12:20 |
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The Deathadder Essential looks like a slightly refreshed version of the v2 mini? Seems like the g203 is still popular. I'm slightly hesitant to go for the mice that look like michael bay transformer space ships or have weird honeycomb surfaces, though they would probably be fine. I've seen steelseries prime+ (https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Prime-FPS-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B093LV8SPK?th=1) pop up a few times and it seems to be cheap currently (~$20), has optical clicks, any opinions on that one relative to the similarly priced g203 and Essential?
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 18:04 |
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Arivia posted:Corsair has an MMO mouse that I can get at a reasonable price. Unless the recent versions of the Naga come with those laser switches that don't develop double clicking over time, I'll probably go with that. The Redragon has the ridge in the middle of the side button grid (splitting it into two sets of six) which is what I hated most about the G600, so that's a no-go for me. Got the Corsair, 99% happy with it, I do wish mouse buttons 4 and 5 were in a better place instead of back towards the top of my palm, but it’s not a huge deal.
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 19:05 |
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Scoss posted:The Deathadder Essential looks like a slightly refreshed version of the v2 mini? Seems like the g203 is still popular. I'm slightly hesitant to go for the mice that look like michael bay transformer space ships or have weird honeycomb surfaces, though they would probably be fine. The steelseries mouse seems like a good deal. I think they generally make good stuff, but like any company, there's some good and some bad product lines. I do have a steelseries mouse somewhere that's got to be over 10 years old and still works fine, but it's not heavily used.
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 01:30 |
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My Kailh 8.0 switches I put into my Logitech G Wireless Pro in 2022 started to double click. They lasted shorter than the stock OEM Omron switches which double clicked after 4 years of use, which is disappointing. I have had this mouse since 2018, I should probably just buy a new mouse but the battery life is still good on it. I will be trying out the Huano Blue shell Pink dot switches this time. Hopefully it'll last longer then two years. I replaced the side button switches on this mouse too since it double clicked. If I could source a reliable battery for this mouse, this feels like a Ship of Theseus situation Rabid Snake fucked around with this message at 18:25 on May 4, 2024 |
# ? May 4, 2024 18:22 |
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Does anyone have any experience with VXE R1 series? My Pulsar X1 is not doing great anymore (I'm pretty sure middle click is totally dead or at least far more trouble to hit than it should be) and I figure it's time for a new mouse. Hear good reviews about it but I'm having a hell of a time trying to figure out which edition to get. From what I can tell, the best reviewed VXE R1 is the R1 Pro and not Pro Max because it's slightly heavier and the Pro Max's Kailh switches tend to double click, is that right? (Rabid Snake's post just above this corroborates that I feel) I mostly just want something that's not too expensive, especially since I feel the Pulsar didn't quite make it as long as I wanted. Not sure what other options are there in this space. If there are alternatives similarly priced stuff but with maybe more buttons (maybe on the right?), please pass the recommendation. It's not super urgent or anything and I found the VXE via casually browsing. I do play FPS once in a while but being the ultimate gamer mouse is not strictly a necessity.
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# ? May 6, 2024 01:56 |
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Rabid Snake posted:My Kailh 8.0 switches I put into my Logitech G Wireless Pro in 2022 started to double click. They lasted shorter than the stock OEM Omron switches which double clicked after 4 years of use, which is disappointing. If you want to keep running that GPW indefinitely there are hotswap PCBs available for left/right click
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# ? May 6, 2024 22:00 |
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mewse posted:If you want to keep running that GPW indefinitely there are hotswap PCBs available for left/right click Wow I did not realize they made in hot swappable switch PCBs for the LGPW. I just ordered this not because I want this thing to run forever but to try different switches that I have always wanted to try but didnt bother because of the soldering and desoldering etc I have taking apart this mouse down to the science Rabid Snake fucked around with this message at 01:54 on May 16, 2024 |
# ? May 16, 2024 01:42 |
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Switched from a MX Master 3 because I wore it out, thought I'd try the MX Vertical. My old mouse had it's issues particularly with regard to how essentially useless the sideways scroll wheel was because it never worked. There is one thing about this mouse that I immediately hate which is that the scroll wheel doesn't spin. I have to manually move the scroll wheel at every moment or it doesn't move it's driving me crazy.
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# ? May 17, 2024 13:18 |
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Nolgthorn posted:Switched from a MX Master 3 because I wore it out, thought I'd try the MX Vertical. My old mouse had it's issues particularly with regard to how essentially useless the sideways scroll wheel was because it never worked. Yeah the free spin clutch on the MX masters is pretty unique, I doubt they're the only mice in the world with them but I don't know of any others offhand. The G502 all have a button that engages or disengages the mouse wheel detents so you can click it to free spin, but it's not like the MX master which just does it if you spin it quickly. I guess the M650 I have has a "SmartWheel" which is similar to the MX master but it's a more rubbery wheel so while it does have a similar free spin thing it's not quite as good. With the MX Master I can spin it and it'll go for 10+ seconds but the M650 slows and stops after a couple of seconds.
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# ? May 17, 2024 15:08 |
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Rexxed posted:Yeah the free spin clutch on the MX masters is pretty unique, I doubt they're the only mice in the world with them but I don't know of any others offhand. Razer has a clutch wheel on some of their mice ("Smart Reel"). Most times I've seen people compare them they say the logi clutch wheel on the masters is much better. At one point I was in a best buy with time to kill and tried the demo units, including a razer with the smart reel. From that minimal test I'd agree the logi clutch is slightly better. But not by a huge amount. OTOH I was pretty meh on the feature as a whole.
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# ? May 17, 2024 15:31 |
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Rexxed posted:Yeah the free spin clutch on the MX masters is pretty unique, I doubt they're the only mice in the world with them but I don't know of any others offhand. The G502 all have a button that engages or disengages the mouse wheel detents so you can click it to free spin, but it's not like the MX master which just does it if you spin it quickly. The MX anywheres, or at least the Mx anywhere 3s, has the wheel which goes to free spin if you flick it just hard enough but it’s a little stiffer than the MX master which goes into free spin very fluidly. I agree it’s a feature I fell in love with.
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# ? May 17, 2024 17:03 |
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Yiggy posted:The MX anywheres, or at least the Mx anywhere 3s, has the wheel which goes to free spin if you flick it just hard enough but it’s a little stiffer than the MX master which goes into free spin very fluidly. I agree it’s a feature I fell in love with. the lift has the "SmartWheel" too, it clicks like a normal wheel unless you give it a good flick, then it freewheels for a while. It's not the heavy weighted beast you'll find on some of the other mice though
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# ? May 17, 2024 19:53 |
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The Lift looks nice but suffers from something that all modern mice seem to have which is that they're made for tiny hands
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# ? May 17, 2024 20:09 |
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Very happy with my Logitech G305 for years now, but it occasionally double-clicks lately. Weirdly this mostly happens in the morning, barely later in the day. So maybe it's something interfering with the wireless signal instead of a technical defect causing it. Anyway, I'd like a replacement using off-the-shelf batteries instead of built-in batteries so everything newer by Logitech seems to be out of the question, sadly. That leaves me with either buying another G305 or a Steel Series wireless Rival (mini) which apparently has a loud and resistant click which seems to be a huge disadvantage to some Reddit users. Any other recommendations? Would prefer wireless, batteries, perhaps brand: Logitech, modern, if possible 2 more buttons than G305.
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# ? May 19, 2024 21:47 |
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There are a bunch of g502s that definitely have a mechanical issue, do the 305s use the same switches? I've swapped mine out before it's not that hard if you have an ok soldering station.
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# ? May 20, 2024 01:06 |
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I think they do. Some people say it's best to stay away from Logitech mice using non-optical switches. Might consider soldering. Thank you, down1nit.
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# ? May 20, 2024 10:22 |
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I had an issue with switches on my old MX Master 3 (Logitech) I had to take the whole thing apart. That fixed it. Issue was I couldn't click and drag because it would always release or just be glitchy clicking in general.
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# ? May 20, 2024 11:09 |
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down1nit posted:There are a bunch of g502s that definitely have a mechanical issue, do the 305s use the same switches? It is not a mechanical issue but an electrical one, on pretty much all Logitech wireless mice to varying levels. They don't use enough juice across the switch (to save battery). The buildup of dirt and oxidation on the contact over time is what makes them unreliable. This means that replacing the switch isn't a permanent fix -- the new switch will eventually have the same problem. I'm pretty sure there's also a big environmental impact from humidity or something, which is why some people say their switches last for years and some say they give out in 6 months. here's my guide on how to clean microswitches, which works nearly as well as replacing them
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# ? May 20, 2024 17:19 |
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I eventually switched to a Corsair mouse because every Logitech mouse I've ever owned has died in less than a year for these exact reasons. RIP, my three G305s
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# ? May 20, 2024 17:31 |
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Are there any wireless mice with a build quality similar to Intellimouse? I’ve had that for years and it’s still performing perfectly despite the abuse it’s suffered. The Logitech and Steelseries mice I’ve used have felt like flimsy garbage in comparison and were either falling apart or developed a faulty scroll wheel in about a year (my scroll wheels have higher mileages than my car). I was thinking of going for a Surface Precision Mouse because it might be as rock solid as the Intellimouse.
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# ? May 24, 2024 00:40 |
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Have you tried a Logitech MX Master 3S yet? About the only downside is it's covered in soft touch plastic so it's going to turn into snot in about 10 years.
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# ? May 24, 2024 03:10 |
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Has Logitech's build quality improved significantly? Haven't tried the MX Master 3S . I've had two Logitech mice in the past and in just over a year of daily use both developed faulty scroll wheels and one also had a double click problem.
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# ? May 24, 2024 11:08 |
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On that topic, my not so old M720 pretty quickly developed scrolling issues (within warranty, but i dragged my feet too long with the return because I thought it had a two year warranty), and now the left scroll wheel tilt button completely stopped working. Any advice for a similar mouse with in-built quick switching? The more buttons the better.
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# ? May 24, 2024 21:51 |
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Haha, someone on Reddit suggested wildly shaking the mouse and blowing into the panel gaps between mouse buttons. That did the trick for now. Fun exercise.
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# ? May 25, 2024 05:27 |
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What's a good replacement for the g604. This and the g602 before it have been my favorite mice ever and I'm saddened to learn they're not made anymore. I did see the razer naga could have the 6 side buttons so that's currently leading the way. Using this mouse for wow.
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# ? May 28, 2024 22:29 |
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CraigSlice posted:What's a good replacement for the g604. This and the g602 before it have been my favorite mice ever and I'm saddened to learn they're not made anymore. I did see the razer naga could have the 6 side buttons so that's currently leading the way. I've seen a few folks asking this online. I don't think there's a direct replacement at the moment. You can repair yours or try to get used to what's on the market right now. RTings has an article on their best MMO mouse choices up you might take a look at although none of their options are exactly like the 604: https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/best/mmo I've also seen mentioned: Razer Naga V2 Pro (has one swappable side plate with a similar config to the 604 but costs a lot and it's razer build quality): https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Naga-Wireless-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0BGJTLFN5 Razer Naga Trinity (seems to be discontinued but is still in stock some places, has a round 8 button side panel option, wired): https://www.walmart.com/ip/Razer-Naga-Trinity-MOBA-MMO-Gaming-Mouse-16-000-DPI-5G-Optical-Sensor/470618698 Hyper X Pulsefire Raid (lot of thumb buttons, wired) https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Pulsefire-Raid-Software-Controlled-Customization/dp/B0828NDB43 ROCCAT Kone XP (wired) or ROCCAT Kone XP Air (wireless). These have four thumb buttons and two more to the left of the left click so you can kind of get 6, but it's not laid out the same: https://www.amazon.com/ROCCAT-Lighting-Multi-Button-Computer-ROC-11-420-01/dp/B0B69XSSXF
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# ? May 28, 2024 22:54 |
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The Redragon 908 is a bit of a cheaper build but it does have all the side buttons of the G600 and its extra trigger button replaces the ring finger button functionality of the G600.
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# ? May 31, 2024 09:15 |
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I have a Naga V2 Pro and the main thing to be aware of is that the scroll wheel is weird. The scroll wheel isn't a standard one and you can customize the number of steps or how much tension there is in the scroll. Its using some magnetic fluid to do this so it never quite feels like a traditional scroll wheel, might bother some but you get used to it after a while https://www.xeeltech.com/customer-razer/
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# ? May 31, 2024 16:06 |
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Rollie Fingers posted:Has Logitech's build quality improved significantly? It probably comes down to which ones you're buying but their RMA process has been real good historically
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 00:06 |
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logitech has some models with optical switches which are immune to the double clicking issue, but they still have a lot of current models with traditional mechanical switches so you have to check
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 12:32 |
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Following on from my earlier posts I’ve tried the following wireless mice: Microsoft Surface Precision: The best scroll wheel I’ve ever used. I was giddy at how premium the wheel felt and how faultlessly it operated between smooth and regular scrolling. The soft, quiet clicks also added to the premium, high quality feel. However the mouse is too heavy, I can’t live with the polling rate and it glides like a hog in quicksand over my leather desk pad. If it was lighter, had a 2g dongle and had the same feet as the Intellimouse, it’d be my perfect mouse. Returned. MX Master 3S: Great ergonomic shape but not a fan of the rubber. The polling rate is too low, the scroll wheel was absolutely atrocious compared to the luxurious Surface Precision one and middle clicking felt awkward. The scroll wheel drove me crazy within an hour. Returned. G502 X Lightspeed: This’ll have to do. The scroll wheel is leagues worse than Surface Precision but everything else is perfectly adequate. Being a Logitech I’m expecting it to last 6 months at most.
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