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LRADIKAL posted:I don't see that being claimed there? What benchmark are you basing that on? https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_ranking-best_gaming_cpu
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Mr. Neutron posted:According to that site the 7800x3d is the 14th best gaming CPU at the moment while literally every single youtube video I've watched claims it's the best by far. i was only looking at it as a cheatsheet for encoding support. i never even looked at any of the performance benchmarks they use. my bad. i should have checked that site more instead of just using one of the first hits from my google search on what encoders that specific cpu supported.
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quote:Which CPU is best suited for computer games? We'll give you the answer in our up-to-date leaderboard. With a gaming CPU, the clock frequency, the intermediate memory (cache) and of course the number of CPU cores and the CPU architecture are particularly important. We tested the following processors in the Geekbench 5 multi-core benchmark, but the popularity of each processor is also included in this list. Let me translate: "We used a non gaming benchmark then arbitrarily shuffled those results."
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Isn't all of this a difference between the highest average framerate vs tail latency 99th percentile or higher worst frame times? The Intel chips have insanely high clocks and often do put up the highest average framerates, but people tend to care about the worst frame and not the average frame given that "average" performance is good enough across most recent CPUs.
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LRADIKAL posted:https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/chipsets/am4.html Ok finally got some updates back from him. Good news and bad news Good news: he’s upped the budget to $650 Bad news: his current cpu is a Ryzen 3 1200, and his PSU is only 500w 
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Moving from the US to the EU. I believe all hardware is compatible (with the possible exception of the power supply, but it's 2024, so I'd be stunned if I managed to purchase something that both didn't automatically handle voltage and didn't have one of those little red buttons I vividly remember) I don't live near a MicroCenter, but I'll be visiting family 20 miles from one the week before I move. There's no reason not to take advantage, right? No trouble with using hardware from the wrong continent?
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Moving from the US to the EU. I believe all hardware is compatible (with the possible exception of the power supply, but it's 2024, so I'd be stunned if I managed to purchase something that both didn't automatically handle voltage and didn't have one of those little red buttons I vividly remember) When I moved I just had to get a new PSU to wall plug, I think
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Captain Pike posted:Question: Sony cameras output HEVC (h265) using 4:2:2 chroma subsampling, AMF (AMDs hardware encoder) doesn't support 4:2:2. You'll want an Intel based NUC as QSV does support it, and is generally much higher quality anyway. AMD is currently last place for hardware encode quality. I know 8 cores is gonna be enough to software encode decently, but it's very wasteful and almost all software is going to default to hardware.
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BurritoJustice posted:Sony cameras output HEVC (h265) using 4:2:2 chroma subsampling, AMF (AMDs hardware encoder) doesn't support 4:2:2. You'll want an Intel based NUC as QSV does support it, and is generally much higher quality anyway. For clarity, we have been doing this: Sony A6000->HDMI->[USB-Capture-Device(Elgato Cam Link 4K)]->PC (Video coming from the camera via HDMI should be unencoded.) quote:I know 8 cores is gonna be enough to software encode decently, but it's very wasteful and almost all software is going to default to hardware. Do you mean "wasteful" of electrical energy, or philosophically?  (Please note that the computer in question costs $274). Is it possible you meant to write "hardware decoder" instead of "hardware encoder"? My understanding is that Chrome webrtc and native-desktop Zoom currently use h264, and that this Ryzen CPU should be able to encode h264 at a quality that meets or exceeds QuickSync h264 encoding at 1920x1080:30fps.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Moving from the US to the EU. I believe all hardware is compatible (with the possible exception of the power supply, but it's 2024, so I'd be stunned if I managed to purchase something that both didn't automatically handle voltage and didn't have one of those little red buttons I vividly remember) You only have to check your psu's specs. If it is full range and can do 240v, which is really common now, then you just need a power cable with the right plug on the other end. Of course the only other thing is warranty on your hardware. Not easy to drive back to MicroCenter when you have an issue, so it may be worth checking everything works before taking it abroad.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Moving from the US to the EU. Nothing to add just huge congrats, love to see a goon on their glow up.
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At long last I experience the cutting edge of PC gaming. https://imgur.com/a/wGTnegd
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Babby Formed posted:Would look at something like this, the CPU upgrade is going to be insane in literally every game he plays and the 2080ti is good now and overclocks like a champ if he ever wants to go for it. I see a few on ebay for 300 buy it now it shouldn't be that bad to find one. Thank you! He couldn’t figure out what board he has, but I’m willing to bet it’s ancient and needs to be replaced. I’m assuming that if the mobo needs to be replaced we just swap the 5700x3d with a 5600 and a board and it’ll be roughly the same price, eh?
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:Thank you! He couldn’t figure out what board he has, but I’m willing to bet it’s ancient and needs to be replaced. I’m assuming that if the mobo needs to be replaced we just swap the 5700x3d with a 5600 and a board and it’ll be roughly the same price, eh? If he's using Windows he can open the System Information menu (just search "System Information" from Start) and it'll have the BaseBoard Manufacturer, Product, and Version listed.
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Budget builders: Newegg has an RX 6800 for $350 (360 minus 10 with code NEPLSDS794) which is a stellar deal for a budget 1440p / gratuitous 1080p card
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Could use ideas for a good air cooler for a Ryzen 7800x3d…I’m trying to avoid liquid cooling unless it’s just absolutely necessary. Thermals/noise prioritized over cost savings!
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DerekSmartymans posted:Could use ideas for a good air cooler for a Ryzen 7800x3d…I’m trying to avoid liquid cooling unless it’s just absolutely necessary. Thermals/noise prioritized over cost savings! What size case? They don't take much to cool, it's only a 120-watt TDP.
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DerekSmartymans posted:Could use ideas for a good air cooler for a Ryzen 7800x3d…I’m trying to avoid liquid cooling unless it’s just absolutely necessary. Thermals/noise prioritized over cost savings! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BNH1W546 Despite being less expensive than most of the competition, it's among the best air coolers on the market.
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change my name posted:What size case? They don't take much to cool, it's only a 120-watt TDP. This one Edit: Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BNH1W546 Thanks! Double edit: For some reason the link above was wrong. It’s fixed! DerekSmartymans fucked around with this message at 01:03 on May 8, 2024 |
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I just got a frost commander 140 for my system which is also $35 on Amazon and has a 140mm fan. I think it performs ever so slightly better than the above.
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Thermalright has about 500 different air coolers at similar price points, similar designs, and similar performance. Honestly just pick the form factor you need and it'll likely work just fine.
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When you first post for advice, tell us the following: What country are you in? ‘Murica Do you live near Microcenter? Not remotely What are you using the system for? Web and Office, Gaming, Professional…Shitposting What's your budget? $2800-$3000 If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution / refresh rate? How fancy do you want your graphics? 3x32” 1440p monitors. Graphics as nice as possible for best performance as possible. ————————————————————- PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($365.24 @ MemoryC) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon) Thermal Compound: ARCTIC MX-6 4 g Thermal Paste ($6.55 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($250.76 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($214.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Leven JS600 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($184.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card ($899.99 @ Newegg) Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.00 @ Walmart) Total: $2357.40 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-07 21:53 EDT-0400 I still have some budget left, but I was hoping that the AM5 socket, PCIE 5, and DDR 5 capability meant that upgrades in a generation or two could be a simple matter of upgrading processor, upgrading GPU, and filling the last two RAM slots piecemeal or as needed. I’ve never had an AMD CPU or GPU, but I don’t think anything here prevents me from slapping in an Nvidia GPU in a few years if I want to run Crysis. For now, I like the benchmarks and VRAM capacity of the Radeon for the price as opposed to melting a 4090. Edit: If there’s a trick to getting that list prettified into the “standard” format, I’m all ears. Second edit: Found the bb code link! Much nicer! DerekSmartymans fucked around with this message at 02:56 on May 8, 2024 |
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DoombatINC posted:Budget builders: Newegg has an RX 6800 for $350 (360 minus 10 with code NEPLSDS794) which is a stellar deal for a budget 1440p / gratuitous 1080p card Good price. I have two 6800s (msi and sapphire), and I can recommend them. Very efficient compared to XT, quiet and cool..
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Tried ordering some DDR5 RAM from Amazon, got a 16 foot light string instead. Just gonna go to Microcenter at this point to get it
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DerekSmartymans posted:When you first post for advice, tell us the following:
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Hotel Kpro posted:Tried ordering some DDR5 RAM from Amazon, got a 16 foot light string instead. Just gonna go to Microcenter at this point to get it Yeah Amazon is just another eBay at this point.
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Kibner posted:I have a 7900XTX myself, but it was partially because I wanted to have a GPU with minimal issues in Linux. If you are going to only be using Windows, consider the 4080 or 4080ti, instead. The raster is weaker, but you will have much better performance in titles that have ray and path tracing. That 24Gb of VRAM on that 7900xtx just looks soooo tempting for buying something now, that will last longer calendar days in the machine than the latest Nvidia upper-tier cards. I’d honestly rather skip ray tracing to keep a working card an extra year (or two!) in the machine without “having” to plug in a new one. Especially at 1440p, as I can’t see me going to 4K anytime soon. How has your card been for quality and performance in using it every day?
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DerekSmartymans posted:That 24Gb of VRAM on that 7900xtx just looks soooo tempting for buying something now, that will last longer calendar days in the machine than the latest Nvidia upper-tier cards. I’d honestly rather skip ray tracing to keep a working card an extra year (or two!) in the machine without “having” to plug in a new one. Especially at 1440p, as I can’t see me going to 4K anytime soon. How has your card been for quality and performance in using it every day? The problem with ray tracing is that the tail has successfully wagged the dog at this point, both AMD and Nvidia "care" about it. Nvidia used its 80% market share to make ray tracing a thing, and the Radeon GPUs are notably worse at it. You're not likely to keep a card an extra year due to vram either, as 16GB of VRAM vs 24 GB of VRAM is an academic difference really only having an impact at 4k resolutions, and even then it would be 4k ultra settings FSR/DLSS, as thats about the only way to make it work. The game is more likely to outpace the GPU core in the graphics card than it is to fill either of those memory pools during gaming workloads during the useful life of the card. If you refresh your build in tick/tock intervals (GPU, then rest of system) every 5 years or so, you're not likely to outpace either of those cards. Also of note, DLSS is a noticeable quality improvement over what FSR can provide, with less artifacting and better frame generation in supported games. FSR is great in instances where DLSS isn't available, but given the choice, DLSS is better objectively due to quality/detail differences. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbKhxjw8EUE Here's a Hardware Unboxed video on the differences between the 7900XTX and its direct competitor the RTX 4080. The Super variant of the 4080 only adds a small handful of percent to the performance, not enough to be notable, so the graphs are still good. orange juche fucked around with this message at 23:44 on May 8, 2024 |
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orange juche posted:The problem with ray tracing is that the tail has successfully wagged the dog at this point. Nvidia used its 80% market share to make ray tracing a thing, and the Radeon GPUs are notably worse at it. You're not likely to keep a card an extra year due to vram either, as 16GB of VRAM vs 24 GB of VRAM is an academic difference really only having an impact at 4k resolutions, and even then it would be 4k ultra settings FSR/DLSS, as thats about the only way to make it work. Just wanted to say thanks, this type of response is why I was asking here before spending the first dime! DerekSmartymans fucked around with this message at 23:59 on May 8, 2024 |
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DerekSmartymans posted:Just wanted to say thanks, this type of response is why I was asking here before spending the first dime! Yeah, the difference between the cards in meaningful gameplay benchmarks is about 4-5% overall, and if you skip to the back half of the video, he goes into depth on the differences in each card and what they're better at. Better rasterization does not always equal better performance, driver issues can also crop up, as the 7900xtx loses out to the 4080 at 1440p in a few titles, when it probably shouldn't. Dunno how much fortnite you play though, and the framerate differences are essentially meaningless as both cards are *way* more than capable at 1440p, both being designed as 4k capable cards.
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DerekSmartymans posted:I went with the 4080 Super because in general (and this one specifically) are $300-$500 cheaper than the “regular” ones. I don’t get it either. The Super refresh is exactly the same but at a lower price. It's "Super" in name only and is in practice an MSRP reduction
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change my name posted:The Super refresh is exactly the same but at a lower price. It's "Super" in name only and is in practice an MSRP reduction Gotcha.
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Yeah if you got a 4080 Super at $999 before tax, that's well within 15% of the cheapest 7900XTX, which is currently $900 before tax at Microcenter, if the 4080 Super is 1100 dollars before tax it's a less clear cut difference. If we're talking 200 dollars I'd take the 7900XTX every day, but 100 has me leaning to Nvidia due to various odd game support issues ive had with Radeon. You really don't go wrong with either card though, except in one specific edge case being VR gaming, which I do do, and in my case, NVidia is the clear winner there as the 7900XTX has terrible VR performance for no real reason beyond drivers. It was bad enough that I resold a 7900XTX and plugged in my old 3080 because the VR performance was that bad at the time.
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change my name posted:The Super refresh is exactly the same but at a lower price. It's "Super" in name only and is in practice an MSRP reduction Doesn't the 4070 Ti Super have more VRAM than the "vanilla" 4070 Ti?
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bgreman posted:Doesn't the 4070 Ti Super have more VRAM than the "vanilla" 4070 Ti?
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Branch Nvidian posted:If he's using Windows he can open the System Information menu (just search "System Information" from Start) and it'll have the BaseBoard Manufacturer, Product, and Version listed. Thank you!! https://www.asrock.com/mb/amd/b450%20pro4/index.asp#Specification This is his board. Spec sheet says it supports the 5000 series, so I think we can do a 5600 or a 5700x3D? Worst case looks like a pretty good bundle deal: https://www.microcenter.com/product...er-build-bundle
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