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Baron von Eevl posted:Ringo would come up with drum parts that no other human on earth would have ever thought of, just absolutely bizarre patterns and accents, complete alien poo poo. He made absolute bank off it, then hosed off for life to do the occasional bit part and make comically bizarre MSPaint artwork and sell it for exorbitant prices. Man is an absolute genius.
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Can we bring the amp chat back?
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May 11, 2024 03:29
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Today I went to a couple stores and hosed around with some guitars to get an idea of how I like the shapes. SG: Really light, sounds more or less like a Les Paul to my very untrained ear (which I suppose is not too surprising) Telecaster and Stratocaster: They were both nice to hold. I like how Strats look better, but I'd probably be happy with either (I tried a PRS SE which I liked a lot for reasons I don't have the experience to express, but it played very nicely) Jazzmaster: I really, really liked how this sat on my leg. I think I want one. This was after I expressed to my wife that I want a guitar that is mine, and not one of the ones she inherited from her father (which are excellent guitars, but I know she will always be a bit anxious about them) Also played around with acoustics since I want a little cheap parlor guitar I can gently caress around with on the patio and not feel too bad if it gets damaged or anything. Can't really do that with the Martin. Didn't really find anything I liked too much, but I think I may be expecting too much.
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May 11, 2024 03:32
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 I must not GAS. GAS is the wallet-killer. GAS is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my GAS. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the GAS has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
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May 11, 2024 03:36
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Endless Mike posted:Jazzmaster: I really, really liked how this sat on my leg. I think I want one.  A jazzmaster isn’t always the right tool for the job, but it sure is always the coolest tool for the job.
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May 11, 2024 03:48
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Endless Mike posted:
For a parlor in the 3-400 dollar range, I'd recommend trying to snag a used Alvarez or Takamine on reverb. They don't hold resale value (to your buying benefit) and sound great. I think these are a super sweet spot for a non premium instrument but I'd record with them no hesitation. This thread also loves a breedlove though they're a bit bigger than parlor size, they're still small body (I think concert or single 0? Someone correct me on this) and there's a gently caress ton of them about Cheaper still I've heard good things about Luna for their price.
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May 11, 2024 03:57
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fullroundaction posted:
I'm still *very* beginner, so the "right" tool is "the one that looks cool that I will want to pick up and play". I'm a bit hesitant about the tremolos most have since most recommendations are to get a hardtail for a first electric but I suppose I can just leave the bar off and not worry about it. Good Soldier Svejk posted:For a parlor in the 3-400 dollar range, I'd recommend trying to snag a used Alvarez or Takamine on reverb. They don't hold resale value (to your buying benefit) and sound great. I think these are a super sweet spot for a non premium instrument but I'd record with them no hesitation. I have GAS, I suppose. Bad time for it since we're also actively looking for a house.
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May 11, 2024 04:02
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Sweaty IT Nerd posted:Can we bring the amp chat back? ok, you first
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May 11, 2024 04:07
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I'd recommend trying to snag a used Alvarez or Takamine on reverb. Seconded, I love my Tak dread. There's someone on my local CL that's selling a '78 lawsuit era Takamine that I nearly broke my "no new music gear purchases until 2025" rule for. Yamahas are also really good affordable acoustics
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I'm trying to fall in love with this Joyo tube amp. My ear isn't anything and I don't play but it does sound darn good. It's the Mjolnir so it's got two channels and a bunch of switches. I think I'm figuring it out. A weird detail I like is the bent bar stock handle flips down. I don't know if that's industry standard or anything but it's handy for stacking.
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May 11, 2024 04:19
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luchadornado posted:I'm so old I signed up for Columbia House to get Nevermind and Ten explicitly. I am not paid by this company and it's not an endorsement, except it is. i keep a sub to moises.ai to break tracks down into 4 or 5 track stems and do remixes with that. You can try it with a few tracks for free and the UI seems pretty fondleslab-friendly. give it a shot perhaps?
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May 11, 2024 04:33
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speaking of weedly wees joe satriani just posted this clip from leno some time during the late triassic period of note, joe's ripped to poo poo on sudafed due to a bad case of the flu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aydo9m3W7uk
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May 11, 2024 06:00
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That is a lot of Marshalls. U wonder what they actually used for amplification.
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May 11, 2024 06:25
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Kazinsal posted:
warmoth doesn't outright say it on their site anywhere afaik, but their jaguar/mustang necks fit their 7/8 size strat and tele bodies. normally they expect you to get their special made 24 fret gibson scale neck to go with the 7/8 bodies, but you can get basically a strat or tele with a 24" scale neck that's about the same size as an 80s shred guitar
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insane clown pussy posted:warmoth doesn't outright say it on their site anywhere afaik, but their jaguar/mustang necks fit their 7/8 size strat and tele bodies. normally they expect you to get their special made 24 fret gibson scale neck to go with the 7/8 bodies, but you can get basically a strat or tele with a 24" scale neck that's about the same size as an 80s shred guitar So much of Warmoth's poo poo is so cool that it makes me want to get into building custom guitars and winding pickups etc. but it's probably an extreme tier faux pas to build and sell guitars using Warmoth necks and bodies
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May 11, 2024 07:36
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lol you'd be surprised how many super high end corksniffer boutique brands are ghost built but yeah it's a chunk of their business still. in fact those 7/8 bodies and necks were originally the pre-samick valley arts customs
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insane clown pussy posted:lol you'd be surprised how many super high end corksniffer boutique brands are ghost built That's interesting because like, if you wound your own pickups and assembled everything yourself you could build a really nice boutique "entry level" guitar from Warmoth parts + your own pickups and wiring for like, six or seven hundred bucks. man what am I doing with my life I could be ghost building guitars for a living
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May 11, 2024 09:22
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Sweaty IT Nerd posted:That is a lot of Marshalls. U wonder what they actually used for amplification. Line6 Pod straight into the PA
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May 11, 2024 14:08
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Kazinsal posted:That's interesting because like, if you wound your own pickups and assembled everything yourself you could build a really nice boutique "entry level" guitar from Warmoth parts + your own pickups and wiring for like, six or seven hundred bucks. That's what I did with my partscaster for myself. It was like $1000 all in, and after having it setup by a pro that remarked what a nice guitar it was I splurged on replacement hardware and a plek job. It removed any desire of mine to get a CS or a Suhr. A 6 lb tele that plays like a dream and didn't break the bank.
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for those who aren't sure about my previous post where I said that going full out playing Malcolm Young's part to an AC/DC concert is a good way to burn calories, I just finished a full two and change hour run doing his bit in Live at Donington, and my Fitbit said it was a solid 900 calories burnt. THAT is how Mal spent so many years being the world's tightest rhythm guitarist while being a top tier alky. dude was, like me, a five foot three dude doing the tightest rhythm guitar magic he could. play Mal's part. get a Gretsch. lose weight.
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Sweaty IT Nerd posted:Can we bring the amp chat back? I always loved hearing about the various family tree origin stories, like early Marshalls were based on the Fender Bassman because it was too expensive to import? Then how many Friedmans and Fortins and Soldanos have some DNA from the Marshalls? I'm not sure that's all correct, but it's funny how few seem to be bottom-up clean sheet designs.
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I think it's because most amp designers aren't classically trained electrical engineers who know the nitty gritty of how stuff works. So they take a radio apart and replace components to voice the amplifier for guitar. Then some other tinkerer takes that and modifies it. So on and so forth. There were a few eggheads, like at electro harmonix, so it's not a blanket statement. But that's my impression on how some of the most iconic amps are just modified versions of other iconic amps.
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Didn't Fender then borrow some stuff from Marshall? I don't remember any details but I thought I read that.
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Sweaty IT Nerd posted:Didn't Fender then borrow some stuff from Marshall? I don't remember any details but I thought I read that. I believe Jim Marshall was trying to import Fender amps (especially Bassman amps) but having a difficult time, so he just made a sorta Bassman copy with the tubes available in England at the time. First Fender amps were from the 1940s, whereas Marshall didn't get going until the 1960s, if Wikipedia is right. EDIT: I had the story somewhat right. Wikipedia page doesn't mention whether Marshall ever actually tried to import Bassman amps for his shop or just went after getting copies made as alternatives directly. Also, he didn't make them so much as commission someone else to make them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Amplification Major Operation fucked around with this message at 17:38 on May 11, 2024 |
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Dang, I went down this rabbit hole a month or two ago and took extensive notes, even going into which pedals copied the preamp circuits and then spawned other pedals. Can't seem to find it anywhere at the moment. Whoever posted the Warmoth has me itching to build another guitar now, that hollow body with some P90s would be pretty awesome. Although a brand new Epiphone Casino is only $700. GAS rules.
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Spanish Manlove posted:I think it's because most amp designers aren't classically trained electrical engineers who know the nitty gritty of how stuff works. So they take a radio apart and replace components to voice the amplifier for guitar. Then some other tinkerer takes that and modifies it. So on and so forth. There were a few eggheads, like at electro harmonix, so it's not a blanket statement. But that's my impression on how some of the most iconic amps are just modified versions of other iconic amps. Leo Fender wasn't even a guitar player lmao
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Armacham posted:Leo Fender wasn't even a guitar player lmao I might be thinking of les paul
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No you are right though. Most of the big makers at that time just had the right knowledge and we're at the right place at the right time. Very similar to some of the early home pc days
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duodenum posted:I always loved hearing about the various family tree origin stories, like early Marshalls were based on the Fender Bassman because it was too expensive to import? Then how many Friedmans and Fortins and Soldanos have some DNA from the Marshalls? I'm not sure that's all correct, but it's funny how few seem to be bottom-up clean sheet designs. Every amp is a modified fender bassman and it's hilarious when all the other amp makers do the spiderman pointing meme accusing each other of stealing designs
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Every amp is a modified fender bassman and it's hilarious when all the other amp makers do the spiderman pointing meme accusing each other of stealing designs This is reductive. It’s true there is DNA in there but most things in life are iterative. It’s fun to take someone down a peg when they think they’ve created a “brand new circuit” that is “wholly original” but the work involved in making different amps sound different despite a shared lineage is real and it’s not helpful to say “all [thing] is [thing].” Example: 5150 vs Recto difference is real. It took work. The SLO-100 is a real significant change over the JCM 800 which is a copy, more or less, of popular mods of the Plexi which comes from the JTM45 which comes from the Bassman which ultimately started its life in a tube sample circuit book. The 5150/Recto is a significant evolution of the SLO-100. I think if and when James Brown or Randall Smith denies this is the case you can roundly mock them but the work they did is real.
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Tried the "free" straplock "hack" where your take the rubber part off a bottle of Grolsch and use that. Seems to work very well and I think it looks pretty cool! 2 sets of good enough straplocks for like $8. Also I forgot how much I liked Grolsch. Been living in IPA land too long.
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Major Operation posted:I believe Jim Marshall was trying to import Fender amps (especially Bassman amps) but having a difficult time, so he just made a sorta Bassman copy with the tubes available in England at the time. I'm sorry I wasn't more clear. Duodenum alluded to Marshall yoinking the Bassman but I thought I read that after that some were saying Fender ripped off Marshall. Was it with the Bassbreaker?
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Endless Mike posted:Today I went to a couple stores and hosed around with some guitars to get an idea of how I like the shapes. Yes you do. They're fun guitars. These and telecasters inspire me to play more diverse stuff.
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Sweaty IT Nerd posted:I'm sorry I wasn't more clear. Duodenum alluded to Marshall yoinking the Bassman but I thought I read that after that some were saying Fender ripped off Marshall. Was it with the Bassbreaker? I don't know that "ripped off" is the right way to put it if we're talking about the Bassbreaker. Based on the marketing copy, I think the Bassbreaker is supposed to evoke the sound of a Marshall "Bluesbreaker" combo amp from the 60s. However, the Bluesbreaker amp was largely based on the Fender Bassman topology since it was the JTM45 topology in a combo cabinet (again, according to Wikipedia). So the name "Bassbreaker" points to the lineage of both the Bluesbreaker and the Bassman. Also, the Bassbreaker came out in the last 10 years, which is 50+ years after the Marshalls it is trying to evoke. It's not like Fender is trying to undercut a recently designed Marshall circuit topology with a more cheaply produced clone.
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Verman posted:Yes you do. They're fun guitars. These and telecasters inspire me to play more diverse stuff. I'm gonna do it. Also I played a Yamaha FS800 today at a Guitar Center and was impressed with the sound. It's technically concert size, not parlor, but close enough. Looks like there's some used ones on FB for $150ish which is right at the price where I'm fine to have something to not worry too much about. Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 12, 2024 |
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those 800 series yamahas sit in the legit good and not just good for the price territory, especially once you replace the stock nut/saddle with graphtech or bone
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"All amps are Bassmans" is as accurate as "All singlecuts are Teles and all doublecuts are Strats", which is about as accurate as you want it to be or are willing to argue. Personally I enjoy my Telecaster Les Paul model.
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:What is anything man? Just a chicken wing on a string
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