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FPyat posted:Halfway through Last Argument of Kings. It does feel like Joe was writing his own take on both the major battles of The Lord of the Rings. I think it's a short story in Sharp Ends that shows Bethod is an intellectual as far as the northmen go, Logen is the psycho.
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mewse posted:I think it's a short story in Sharp Ends that shows Bethod is an intellectual as far as the northmen go, Logen is the psycho. Yeah it's been a while since I've read sharp ends, but my recollection of that story is that it suggests that Bethod is generally well-intentioned (as well-intentioned as anyone who ever wanted to be a king ever was, anyway) but in over his head and that Logen...well the subtext of his shocking act of depravity is "ah geez, here we go again," you get the sense that he's prone to that kind of thing
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May 13, 2024 15:31
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Sharp Ends does a really great job showing why everybody was both terrified of Logen and absolutely sick of his poo poo.
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Our books finally arrived, after many, many weeks. Turns out the shop owed 50 quid and the suppliers didn't bother to tell us, just assembled 3 orders and waited to be paid. So a crapping poo poo ton of books turned up today and our fantasy/sci-fi/horror section is near bursting with a grand of new delicious sellable (good) books.  So I bought the next three Abercrombie books and Sharp Ends as well.Malheureusement, our rich benefactor person seems to have grown tired of us as a shiny thing so our shop is probably for the chop unless sales drastically increase.  Anyway, I am now 50 pages into Best Served Cold. VENGEANCE!!!!!!! Yes please. SHIVERS!!!!!! 'Kay, Shivers is about to go through an attempted mugging from 4 lads which is rather a lot for one person but, y'know... Also t'internet tells me a movie version is brewing with Rebecca Ferguson as a fantasy Italian who is gonna go HAM loving poo poo up. I'd watch it.
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May 13, 2024 17:58
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Monica Bellucci posted:Malheureusement, our rich benefactor person seems to have grown tired of us as a shiny thing so our shop is probably for the chop unless sales drastically increase. Sorry about your shop. That's my fav Abercrombie book. Shivers has quite the journey in that one.
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FPyat posted:Halfway through Last Argument of Kings. It does feel like Joe was writing his own take on both the major battles of The Lord of the Rings. Yuuuup. You should get your hands on Sharp Ends, the collection of short stories set in the First Law world. There's one showing the circumstances Bethod laid out this chapter: how it was Logen who pushed things completely off the rails.
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May 13, 2024 19:25
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Oh, I was gonna read Sharp Ends after the other three but does it matter?
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Monica Bellucci posted:Oh, I was gonna read Sharp Ends after the other three but does it matter? It was published after Red Country. I don't know if it has spoilers for the 3 stand-alone novels
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May 13, 2024 21:27
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Monica Bellucci posted:Oh, I was gonna read Sharp Ends after the other three but does it matter? i read it first and it whetted my appetite fiercely
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FPyat posted:Halfway through Last Argument of Kings. It does feel like Joe was writing his own take on both the major battles of The Lord of the Rings. The bit where glocter gets ardy from her house during the siege they troll lotr a bit with them talking about the fall of the maker book she was reading lol
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I had stuff to do today and, on my way home, stopped at a pub and slaked my thirst while reading, so on page 156 aka cameo A just beat cameo B into complicity. "It's a living". So far, it reads very heavily like Joe was playing Assassin's Creed II and the story clicked for him. I really like Friendly, the poisoners seem to be the rich idiot people of this book (other than the rich idiot people) and Shivers, eh, I can't figure whether he is Logen 1.3 or 2.1 Time and reading on will tell. Really enjoying it.
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Monica Bellucci posted:So far, it reads very heavily like Joe was playing Assassin's Creed II and the story clicked for him. I really like Friendly, the poisoners seem to be the rich idiot people of this book (other than the rich idiot people) and Shivers, eh, I can't figure whether he is Logen 1.3 or 2.1 I think Castor Morveer is my favorite character of the book. I love the stark difference in his POV, and how everyone else sees him.
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Hughmoris posted:I think Castor Morveer is my favorite character of the book. I love the stark difference in his POV, and how everyone else sees him. He is such a tremendous tool. From other people's view you can tell they are looking at the top of his head while he mumbles at his shoes.
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May 15, 2024 00:10
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Morveer's big galaxy brain moment is hysterical though, one of the funniest scenes in the series
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No Dignity posted:Morveer's big galaxy brain moment is hysterical though, one of the funniest scenes in the series I loved Shivers' moment of "You will never be able to see across a crowded room"
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May 15, 2024 00:59
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Monica Bellucci posted:and Shivers, eh, I can't figure whether he is Logen 1.3 or 2.1 I think Shivers is what Logen could have been if he actually tried to be a better person, rather than just repeating the mantra about it over and over.
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Xenix posted:I think Shivers is what Logen could have been if he actually tried to be a better person, rather than just repeating the mantra about it over and over. That's my read too. Also that Shivers is the protagonist of the series.
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Shivers' big moment in The Heroes is one of the all time Oh poo poo moments in fantasy IMO
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Given Joe’s influence from Shelby Foote, it looks like the Gurkish attack I just read was a tribute to the Battle of the Crater.
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Yet more reading in the sun avec pint. 5/7. 424 pages in. The Bordello reminded me for all the world of an Oscar Wilde farce but instead of everyone just keeps missing each other, it cuts from room to room as everything builds "VENGEANCE!" "WRONG PERSON OH gently caress" "gently caress YOU SAY ABOUT MY DICE?" "Hmm yes, our part is done strategically, tactically, brilliantly, why will no-one recognise my genius?" I love Friendly, the anankastic doof. Your Dad's a Banker. Hmm, yes only the, ah, target. What are we? Precise, yes. *Kills like 40-50 people* What a completely hypocritical arsehole. That said, the difference between his internal delusions and reality are loving hysterical. The appreciation of art and how a proper rendering can draw the eye. Well, uh, poo poo. Some baddies really need to keep an eye on what they are doing instead of wanking themselves off about how great they are. That point got driven home. Dumbass. And lastly at the moment, a short excursion into the countryside for a ruddy good gambol. I will never think about mushroom soup the same way again, that is some utterly fantastic physical comedy and the strong hints of Morveer's proclivities were sublime.
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100 pages from the end and everything seems almost wrapped up. A lesser author would finish 20-30 pages from this point, I suppose.
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Monza casually nuking Jezal's Potemkin marriage and ego is very funny and I'm almost sad we didn't get a Sharp Ends story of Glokta doing damage control.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Monza casually nuking Jezal's Potemkin marriage and ego is very funny and I'm almost sad we didn't get a Sharp Ends story of Glokta doing damage control. That was amazing. It's 9-10 years later and the phenomenal dolt still hasn't noticed.
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Finished Last Argument. Ardee is happy so it's a happy ending as far as I'm concerned. Before I picked the books up, it was the "grimdark" label that put me off. It makes me imagine something that will be a pure bummer to read, depression fuel, even though I know from Warhammer books that it doesn't necessarily entail that. But the series turned out to have as much humor and light moments as the 40K books I liked most, so it was nothing to be wary of. Ccs posted:I've been watching The Last Kingdom recently and while I think it's a series that anyone who is a fan of Abercrombie's works would enjoy, it also has Simon Kunz as the perfect Bayaz. I'm strongly of the mind that Kevin Michael Richardson would voice an incredible animated Bayaz.
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Jason Statham? Beefy, bald, only his hair ages all that much and it is gone now. Also a lot better actor than he is given credit for, dude slots himself into the role needed and gets on with it.
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ive pictured vincent donofrio as bayaz since i first read his description
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I just googled bald actors lol. Jason Alexander would kill it as Bayaz. Dean Norris is closer to the person I envisioned while reading.
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mewse posted:I just googled bald actors lol. Jason Alexander would kill it as Bayaz. Dean Norris is closer to the person I envisioned while reading. I’m here for Jason Alexander’s odenkirk-ish transition to drama
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Ainsley McTree posted:I’m here for Jason Alexander’s odenkirk-ish transition to drama He played a very convincing creep in Pretty Woman, long before Seinfeld. He'd be magnificent as Bayaz "guy who has ulterior motives oozing out his pores"
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Nah, Bayaz is a reassuring Shithead. Get to book 2 before the throwdown. (EVEN IF HE IS NOT.)
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I really want an HBO series adoption but I have no idea how they keep the series main character Salem Rews reveal for three seasons.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I really want an HBO series adoption but I have no idea how they keep the series main character Salem Rews reveal for three seasons. he’s badly burned, isn’t he? You could do it with makeup I’m sure. And if you can’t you can always make him wear a mask and maybe a fat suit before he gets sent off or something
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:I really want an HBO series adoption but I have no idea how they keep the series main character Salem Rews reveal for three seasons. You'd have to cast one actor for Rews, and another for Pike. Anything else would be blindingly obvious
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May 17, 2024 01:33
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Jeff bridges look from the first Iron Man is Bayaz
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Graham McTavish as Bayaz. That's it. That's the post.
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ZekeNY posted:You'd have to cast one actor for Rews, and another for Pike. Anything else would be blindingly obvious The first season of Star Trek Discovery tried to do it with Clem H. Fandango getting credited for one of two roles with an assumed name but people still sussed it out.
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If you wanted to take a meta approach to Bayaz: Patrick Stewart. The man can play a good villain but almost never does so, thus giving the audience the right first impression.
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Magitek posted:If you wanted to take a meta approach to Bayaz: Patrick Stewart. The man can play a good villain but almost never does so, thus giving the audience the right first impression. Unfortunately he is finally aging, and I don't think could project the kind of bald butcher look that Bayaz needs.
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lawrence fishburne would be pretty good too
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