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I will probably watch some of this just to try to better understand the way front offices think. I expect itll be extremely dull, though. It feels very much like team executives demanding more face time and the HN team caving because they have to make these people happy.
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6-11 seems generous. Jonesll be gone after this season though thankfully
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I just want the Raiders to be mediocre or, failing that, have some all time top tier sicko games. Also for Butker to be destroyed specifically, and the Chiefs more generally.
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Docjowles posted:lol wtf. I thought by offseason they meant the usual one that leads up to the start of the season. Not like... bullshit summer months when zero football activities are happening. TV Guide Description Watch the drama unfold as Giants' Head Coach Brian Daboll slowly realizes he is stuck with Daniel 'Dimes' Jones for another season. Rated TV-MA for self harm.
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Kalli posted:Schedules out means betting lines are out, which means: Bears should be in the Young QBs tier, why do people just assume a rookie qb won't suck as bad as 99% of other rookie qbs.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Bears should be in the Young QBs tier, why do people just assume a rookie qb won't suck as bad as 99% of other rookie qbs. Guessing it's just based on the betting lines or whatever not actual team composition.
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R.D. Mangles posted:Bears should be in the Young QBs tier, why do people just assume a rookie qb won't suck as bad as 99% of other rookie qbs. Scipiotik posted:Guessing it's just based on the betting lines or whatever not actual team composition.
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Also CJ Stroud is gonna break some brains since he's the exception and not the norm as far as rookie QBs go.
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The Browns suck at most things, but this was pretty solid, especially week 18 Ravens and the cameo at the end. https://x.com/browns/status/1790894940660044228
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Not since Ansel Elgort in Tokyo Vice has there been a better performance by a sex pest
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:The Browns suck at most things, but this was pretty solid, especially week 18 Ravens and the cameo at the end. the terrible towel one is so weak, it isn't some sacred thing we make towel pillows and bags and tons of poo poo outa them
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At least they acknowledge that there are valid reasons to hate them, besides being from Ohio.
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sharknado slashfic posted:At least they acknowledge that there are valid reasons to hate them, besides being from Ohio. Ohio recently legalized marijuana and codified a woman's right to choose what happens to her own body in the state constitution so we're at least doing some things right.
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Mega64 posted:Also CJ Stroud is gonna break some brains since he's the exception and not the norm as far as rookie QBs go. I spent some time this afternoon looking up rookie statlines for modern QBs who went on to become passable starters, and while Stroud is definitely an exception and there are some quality QBs who struggled out of the gate, since 2016 the average rookie season for a decent-to-good QB was actually a lot better than I expected. Some stats for shorthand: CJ Stroud 274 ypg, 63.9% completion, 23 TD/5 INT, 57.5 QBR Justin Herbert 289 ypg, 66.6% completion, 31 TD/10 INT, 62.6 QBR Dak Prescott 229 ypg, 67.8% completion, 23 TD/4 INT, 77.6 QBR Deshaun Watson 243 ypg, 61.8% completion, 19 TD/8 INT, 83.7 QBR Baker Mayfield 226 ypg, 63.8% completion, 27 TD/14 INT, 51.2 QBR Kyler Murray 233 ypg, 64.4% completion, 20 TD/12 INT, 57.7 QBR Joe Burrow 269 ypg, 65.3% completion, 13 TD/5 INT, 48.5 QBR ----line of "kind of underwhelming" falls somewhere around here---- Tua Tagovailoa 181 ypg, 64.1% completion, 11 TD/5 INT, 44.8 QBR Lamar Jackson 75 ypg, 58.2% completion, 6 TD/3 INT, 42.6 QBR Josh Allen 173 ypg, 52.8% completion, 10 TD/12 INT, 49.8 QBR Trevor Lawrence 214 ypg, 59.6% completion, 12 TD/17 INT, 39.1 QBR Jared Goff 156 ypg, 54.6% completion, 5 TD/7 INT, 18.3 QBR Obviously there's no guarantee that Caleb is actually good, but if he is and the coaching staff aren't Urban-level fuckups, there's a pretty decent chance he's at least an alright QB out of the gates. One thing that caught my eye is that the other Riley QBs put up pretty solid numbers as Day 1 starters; I think performing on par with Baker/Kyler is a good target to set for Williams
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Alaois posted:now post bryce young Don't think we can post goatse anymore
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Bryce Young's dumpster fire rookie season would have been the 14th best season by passing yardage in Chicago Bears history
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xbilkis posted:Bryce Young's dumpster fire rookie season would have been the 14th best season by passing yardage in Chicago Bears history I smell a trade
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xbilkis posted:Bryce Young's dumpster fire rookie season would have been the 14th best season by passing yardage in Chicago Bears history Lol this is amazing
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Don't think we can post goatse anymore Goatse has something Tepper's Panthers will never have: a ring
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xbilkis posted:Bryce Young's dumpster fire rookie season would have been the 14th best season by passing yardage in Chicago Bears history So you're saying the Panthers fleeced the Bears.
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Kalli posted:Schedules out means betting lines are out, which means: gamblers putting money on the cowboys deserve to lose
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xbilkis posted:I spent some time this afternoon looking up rookie statlines for modern QBs who went on to become passable starters, and while Stroud is definitely an exception and there are some quality QBs who struggled out of the gate, since 2016 the average rookie season for a decent-to-good QB was actually a lot better than I expected. Some stats for shorthand: Why are you putting Dak and Kyler as passable starters?
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75 ypg. Rookie Lamar was terrific.
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really queer Christmas posted:the cowboys deserve to lose ftfy
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Amusingly Mac Jones slots pretty well into the upper half of that chart. 223 ypg, 67.6% completion, 22 TD/13 INT, 56.9 QBR Just like, dont ask about the subsequent years.
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xbilkis posted:Bryce Young's dumpster fire rookie season would have been the 14th best season by passing yardage in Chicago Bears history so Caleb's rookie year needs to be a top five all-time Bears QB performance to be kind of noteworthy
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indigi posted:so Caleb's rookie year needs to be a top five all-time Bears QB performance to be kind of noteworthy Cutler's first year as a Bear was 3rd all-time https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/single-season-passing.htm Trubisky's second year was 6th; his third was 9th The last 3 Bears QBs are top 10 all-time in total yardage https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/career-passing.htm Dexo and xbilkis are over here saying repeatedly that this team vastly exceeds, in terms of talent, the team any of them had around them those years; you and a significant amount of others are saying Caleb is all-timer/top-tier talent that deserved to be first overall and a franchise QB. Cutler and Trubisky weren't and managed significant results in Bears history (same for Fields in the total yards department over multiple years), so yeah That's what that looks like, that's what should be manageable. By your own criteria, by your own praise, he should easily be able to top them then
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indigi posted:so Caleb's rookie year needs to be a top five all-time Bears QB performance to be kind of noteworthy Assuming no injuries, he should easily have the franchise single season record in passing yards and possibly TDs. 3850/30 in 17 games is all it would take to own both records. Cutlers top two WRs that first year were Earl Bennett and Devin Hester. trevorreznik fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 17, 2024 |
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A hall of famer and Earl Bennett was an ok #2 back then.
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wandler20 posted:A hall of famer and Earl Bennett was an ok #2 back then. It wasn't Cutler's fault that Johnny knox folded under pressure.
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FizFashizzle posted:It wasn't Cutler's fault that Johnny knox folded under pressure. 
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FizFashizzle posted:It wasn't Cutler's fault that Johnny knox folded under pressure. 
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Why are we talking about Cutler in Chicago like he was a rookie
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kiimo posted:Why are we talking about Cutler in Chicago like he was a rookie He wouldn't care.
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kiimo posted:Why are we talking about Cutler in Chicago like he was a rookie can we talk about him like he was dookie? 
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FizFashizzle posted:It wasn't Cutler's fault that Johnny knox folded under pressure. 
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kiimo posted:Why are we talking about Cutler in Chicago like he was a rookie we're talking about the best seasons by a Bears QB in order to figure out how low expectations should be for Caleb's rookie season, and Cutler's first season there is easily in the top 5 even though it was with a bad supporting cast... and still wasn't that good. I think if I was a Bears fan I'd be worried if Caleb doesn't turn in a top-10 season his rookie year because it's a really, really low bar to clear and the team around him is already pretty good. plus if he doesn't turn in a very solid season the coaching staff will probably get canned and that would make me anxious about Caleb's development.
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