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Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



CelticPredator posted:

be a lot of fun to customize but I would not want that thing vanilla tbh

Yeah I’m already thinking of ways to use my miniatures paints to customize it to make it look more “realistic”.

My department is dressing up as Ghostbusters this Halloween so one of my coworkers will be sporting it (I’ll be rocking the Haslab pack and wand). I’ve also got a near-complete set of vintage Real Ghostbusters gear that some lucky coworkers will get to use in case the Haslab PKE meter and Ghost Trap don’t arrive before Halloween. I don’t intend to repaint the vintage stuff, I think it’s funnier if it’s grown adults sporting old kids’ toys. :v:

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Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Xenomrph posted:

Yeah I’m already thinking of ways to use my miniatures paints to customize it to make it look more “realistic”.

My department is dressing up as Ghostbusters this Halloween so one of my coworkers will be sporting it (I’ll be rocking the Haslab pack and wand). I’ve also got a near-complete set of vintage Real Ghostbusters gear that some lucky coworkers will get to use in case the Haslab PKE meter and Ghost Trap don’t arrive before Halloween. I don’t intend to repaint the vintage stuff, I think it’s funnier if it’s grown adults sporting old kids’ toys. :v:

Having 4 (5 if you count Janine, and you should) grown adults fully cosplay as the RGB characters is :kiss:

HJE-Cobra
Jul 15, 2007

Bear Witness

Hell Gem

Xenomrph posted:

I got this on clearance at Walmart for :10bux:

https://a.co/d/iZzNLDD

It is WAY better than I thought it would be. It’s got more sounds than the Haslab pack and wand (it even includes all 4 firing modes the Spengler wand has). It’s a very tactile experience like the Spengler wand because you press one button to turn it on and select your firing mode, then you extend the barrel (and cocking it one-handed like a shotgun to extend the barrel makes me feel like an enormous badass), then you hold down a different button to charge it (and it’s possible to overcharge it), and then you pull a trigger to fire. It’s got overheating and venting sounds, sounds of you zapping different ghosts, different colored lights all over the place, I genuinely feel like I ripped somebody off by getting this thing for $10. I’d have paid full retail without hesitation if I knew what it could do. I am seriously impressed.

Yeah this thing is pretty nice. I bought one for my daughter, and then bought another one for myself, to strip the electronics out of it for putting into my own proton pack wand. Still trying to figure out what I'll do for putting it in, but yeah the lights and sound effects are pretty nice.

It's really easy to remove the gray barrel extension part, which immediately gives the toy a more classic styled look, but the part does control that power up noise, so alas.

HJE-Cobra fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Apr 27, 2024

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
I just read the first issue of the Ghostbusters: Back in Town comic book. It's far from a masterpiece but there are a few jokes and character moments that work well imo.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
I bought my light/sound kit from a sight called Rabid Prototypes and he is doing a kickstarter to restart production. I'm happy really happy with mine* so I thought I'd post a link.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/shawnswift/the-positron-proton-pack-kit
There might be cheaper options out there for a complete pack though, I haven't looked.

*I had to manufacture my own mounts to integrate them into my frame, but that was fun.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
I just noticed that a lot of the advertising for the film atm features this specific formation of the cast:



Rudd, Murray and Wolfhard are given the most prominent spots, Hudson and Grace are shoved off to the side and don't even get to hold a neutrona wand, Potts didn't even make it onto the Blu-ray cover

Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007

Buglord
Fear of a black Ghostbuster

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Malcolm Excellent posted:

Fear of a black Ghostbuster

You're allowed to be afraid of Ernie Hudson. He ain't no ghost.

Boogaloo Shrimp
Aug 2, 2004

Jedit posted:

You're allowed to be afraid of Ernie Hudson. He ain't no ghost.

He saw some poo poo

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Saw the movie this weekend and it felt serviceable: not great but it was a movie. It suffered a bit from the overly large cast, what with introducing new characters and giving the old folks more screentime. On the upside, there's a vibe that it corrects one thing the original movie did, namely sidelining Winston and it lets Ernie Hudson be the actually successful and together guy of the original group.

The films should stop trying to make Slimer a thing, it didn't work in Ghostbusters 2 and it was always the worst part of the animated series too.

Chip S. Challenge
Mar 20, 2024

Hint: You don't need the fire boots, but they could help later on.

Kemper Boyd posted:

Saw the movie this weekend and it felt serviceable: not great but it was a movie. It suffered a bit from the overly large cast, what with introducing new characters and giving the old folks more screentime. On the upside, there's a vibe that it corrects one thing the original movie did, namely sidelining Winston and it lets Ernie Hudson be the actually successful and together guy of the original group.

The films should stop trying to make Slimer a thing, it didn't work in Ghostbusters 2 and it was always the worst part of the animated series too.

i remember leaving the theater thinking about how much better the next movie would be if they really passed the baton, for real this time.
when it gets to the point where the new guys share the screen with the old guys twice in a row, it doesn't exactly make your reboot feel committal.
this might be sacrilege to say but perhaps it's time for the remaining og actors to take a step back from the screen and focus on tight writing/production.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Chip S. Challenge posted:

i remember leaving the theater thinking about how much better the next movie would be if they really passed the baton, for real this time.
when it gets to the point where the new guys share the screen with the old guys twice in a row, it doesn't exactly make your reboot feel committal.
this might be sacrilege to say but perhaps it's time for the remaining og actors to take a step back from the screen and focus on tight writing/production.

That might require having unique or new ideas and Ghostbusters is forbidden from doing that

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
Give JMS a call, let's do a big screen adaptation of either 'Chicken, He Clucked' or 'The Devil To Pay'

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

Give JMS a call, let's do a big screen adaptation of either 'Chicken, He Clucked' or 'The Devil To Pay'

'Murray the Mantis' and Phoebe has to deal with her granddad's love of a children's cartoon.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

ImpAtom posted:

That might require having unique or new ideas and Ghostbusters is forbidden from doing that

The GB fandom is so weirdly adverse to new stuff, yet constantly complaining they want new stuff, but always “not like that”.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

The_Doctor posted:

The GB fandom is so weirdly adverse to new stuff, yet constantly complaining they want new stuff, but always “not like that”.

I mean I'm honestly not sure they are, it's just that new stuff isn't really offered outside of the cartoon. The closest outside of that is like 2016 and the backlash from that was a lot more about there being FEEEMALES than anything else and I'm not sure that speaks for the whole fandom. I don't think there's much complaint about them introducing new characters in the newer movies except for the fact they are overshadowed by old people cameos and callbacks to the original film.

It would be genuinely interesting to see a Ghostbusters thing that just... disposed of all of it. No Slimer, no Slime, No Stay Puff, No Gozer, no Bill Murray or Dan Ackroyd and (as loathe as I am to say it) no Ernie Hudson either. Specifically avoid retreading the same ground on any level that isn't "Exterminators but for Ghosts and it's funny, also Proton Packs are cool."

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

Ghostbusters IS Murray, Ackroyd, Ramis, and Hudson. People refuse to admit it, saying "oh why not do a new story?" but it's just people catching ghosts. That's not a story or a franchise. That's why putting the Ecto 1 into a movie, putting all women into a movie doesn't work.

The only true Ghostbusters movie they could do is with the old guys.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Alan_Shore posted:

Ghostbusters IS Murray, Ackroyd, Ramis, and Hudson. People refuse to admit it, saying "oh why not do a new story?" but it's just people catching ghosts. That's not a story or a franchise. That's why putting the Ecto 1 into a movie, putting all women into a movie doesn't work.

The only true Ghostbusters movie they could do is with the old guys.

I refuse to believe there is no way 4 actors could be funny together in a ghost movie unless it was those four.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

I'd love a new RGB show. Same characters, though different actors, and they're doing their thing. Literal monster of the week with maybe a season-long arch leading up to a big finale. Get someone who's as imaginative as JMS, if not JMS himself.

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

ImpAtom posted:

I refuse to believe there is no way 4 actors could be funny together in a ghost movie unless it was those four.

There's a reason why everyone who talks about Ghostbusters uses the phrase "Lightning in a bottle"

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Alan_Shore posted:

There's a reason why everyone who talks about Ghostbusters uses the phrase "Lightning in a bottle"

The first movie had a very small target to hit but only because it was the first one and in the early '80s.

But I do think that the current state of comedy in Hollywood is pretty dire overall so until that changes I don't really have a whole lot of confidence in new GBs.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Don't worry, soon we'll have AI generated comedy and everything will be funny again.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Are we still getting that animated movie?

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



I saw Frozen Empire yesterday. I admit I was a bit wary going in, because I was afraid they were gonna lean far too heavily on the ham-fisted nostalgia, and this is coming from the guy who actually and literally cried when Egon's ghost showed up in Afterlife. I also quite liked Afterlife. Different from the original two, but still a good movie IMO.

And... I thought it was fine. Some of the nostalgia does feel unnecessary. Did we really need the library ghost to do the library ghost thing for absolutely no reason? Did Walter Peck really need to be the mayor (although I did like it when at the end Venkman or someone asks him a question and someone in the crowd yells "yeah, answer him, Dickless!")? At the same time, I did genuinely like the old crew's roles. I got probably the biggest laugh of the night from Ray saying he quit smoking in the mid 90s, and Venkman giving him an appreciative look and going 'proud of you then, proud of you now'.

Much like with Afterlife, the general vibe of the movie was extremely not Ghostbusters. I love good horror comedies, but they need to have horror as well as the comedy, and this was quite a bit over on the comedy side. And a lot of the comedy is ... well, I want to say "too quippy" but Ghostbusters is also quippy. But not like this, you know?

I also was initially quite scared when they showed the 1904 flashback to the firehouse being the base for the firemen who responded to the original brass ball call, because we don't loving need that George Lucas bullshit of literally every loving thing having a meaningful backstory and deep connection. The firehouse can just be a run down crappy building the Ghostbusters can afford! But luckily they didn't push much beyond that.

One thing I genuinely loved was that all the new equipment had that Ghostbusters vibe. There's no reason the drone trap's headset needs to have those Ghostbustery lenses attached to the front, but they make the headset look proper so I'm glad they're there. It owns that everything still looks like it was cobbled together by guys with access to unlicensed nuclear reactors and a can-do attitude.

I guess my big take is a bit conflicted. I can't lie: I genuinely loved seeing the old crew suiting up. I thought Venkman was great. I thought Ray was great. I loving love Winston and always have. And I genuinely liked seeing Janine suit up, too! So I can't be all "aarg, stop with the nostalgia", nor do I want to. But we don't need so much of it. You can go more than 5 minutes without someone (or something) from the original movies popping up. It's obvious this crew can make good movies, and I mostly enjoy the vibes of the new cast (Phoebe is great, Paul Rudd is always good in everything) so just ... have some faith in yourselves. You can have nostalgia and callbacks, but they don't have to be all the time. But I had a good time overall anyway.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

The_Doctor posted:

Are we still getting that animated movie?

I think that would be a good path for the "franchise", to be honest. You could have the old guys go on adventure after adventure and dick around on the Ecto-6 hot-air balloon fighting Stay Puft or whatever and keep the population who like the "stuff" happy.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Disco Pope posted:

I think that would be a good path for the "franchise", to be honest. You could have the old guys go on adventure after adventure and dick around on the Ecto-6 hot-air balloon fighting Stay Puft or whatever and keep the population who like the "stuff" happy.

Yeah the 80s cartoon series already provided a perfectly good format for the continuing adventures of the "original crew" without needing to convince Murray to return or CGIing dead guys onto the screen

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
Personally I always disagree with "lightning in a bottle" because it insinuates the success was happenstance.

Ghostbusters was successful because it was a well-made movie that had a good and quite a tight script, with actors who suited the parts, and it was an entry into a genre that generally had been low-budget and schlocky, with a fairly unique concept too. The difficulty of following that up is that the normal sequel formula of "more of the same but bigger" couldn't really be followed, since the first one already had the end of the world as the thing at stake, and its hard to go beyond that.

The 2000s sequels have the problem of playing against audience expectations because I'm pretty sure you could take a handful of good actors, a good script and good moviemaking, and yet flop because it would not be more of the same. I don't envy the people making Afterlife and Frozen Empire, the balancing act is hard as poo poo, because despite us always complaining about callbacks and nostalgia pandering, a lot of people just want to see the old guys, jumpsuits and proton packs.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Kemper Boyd posted:

Personally I always disagree with "lightning in a bottle" because it insinuates the success was happenstance.

Ghostbusters was successful because it was a well-made movie that had a good and quite a tight script, with actors who suited the parts, and it was an entry into a genre that generally had been low-budget and schlocky, with a fairly unique concept too. The difficulty of following that up is that the normal sequel formula of "more of the same but bigger" couldn't really be followed, since the first one already had the end of the world as the thing at stake, and its hard to go beyond that.

The 2000s sequels have the problem of playing against audience expectations because I'm pretty sure you could take a handful of good actors, a good script and good moviemaking, and yet flop because it would not be more of the same. I don't envy the people making Afterlife and Frozen Empire, the balancing act is hard as poo poo, because despite us always complaining about callbacks and nostalgia pandering, a lot of people just want to see the old guys, jumpsuits and proton packs.

The "lightning in a bottle" thing is more about all the pieces being on point at the exact same time and being captured; if the film was in development hell for 5 years and everything was the same bar a couple of members of the cast, it likely wouldn't be as well regarded. I think its less of a happenstance thing than 1984 was really the only time you'll get that cast, in that form, in that level of grungy New York, with those practical effects.

Icon-Cat
Aug 18, 2005

Meow!
Since I've used that exact "lightning in a bottle" phrase, I'll defend it as well. I've written lengthy-rear end essays and given interviews on what a well-made movie Ghostbusters is and I STILL think that.

Movies are so collaborative and have so many different people and elements that they do take on lives of their own. A novelist working alone might be able to crank out consistent work on a consistent basis—some of the great painters made masterpieces one after the other as if like clockwork! On a movie, there's a butterfly effect of how events and personalities and choices affect each other that's hard to account for, and certainly impossible to manufacture.

You can get a good, skilled, talented group of people together and probably make a good movie. (And that is hard enough! God knows some of my favorite filmmakers have cast perfectly fine actors in some stinkers!) Making something great, or better yet, magic, is harder to plan for. What an amazing art form, where you can hire experienced, respected professionals and spend untold millions of dollars and then find out, well, gee, it just doesn't click.

Hell, nobody knew Ghostbusters was going to be as good or as successful as it was. Columbia wasn't expecting it. Ivan Reitman got an inkling, in that story he loved to tell about seeing the guys all in their costumes for the first time, but he probably didn't know exactly how big it it was gonna be either.

If you don't like the idea of implying that it's happenstance, I agree, that's too random. Let's imply planning rather than fortune, and say that the movie gods smile on it.

I know this is incredibly unhelpful but it is how I feel. I've felt it on my own work, sometimes—when something's really clicking, when I get the same rush of a creative flow when I'm writing, but it's multiplied by the group of us—and boy do I wish it could happen all the time. (I wish it could happen 51% of the time!)

William Goldman has that famous phrase, "Nobody knows anything." It's often phrased as a negative. But there's a positive side to that coin too. :3:

It has taught me a great deal of humility. Let's say that.

Malcolm Excellent
May 20, 2007

Buglord
Bustin?

Makes ME feel GOOD!

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
Check out this Slimer. For some reason his likeness seems hard to capture. They hosed it up in GB2, GB2016, and Frozen Empire imo, but he looks pretty good here.

:homebrew:

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

No butt is a huge fail

Shiftypenguin
Mar 15, 2005

Antique Roadshow

CelticPredator posted:

No butt is a huge fail

You could have the head/hands in one room and the butt in the adjacent room!

Whoever their product designer is needs to up their game. :colbert:

HJE-Cobra
Jul 15, 2007

Bear Witness

Hell Gem
Man I'm so jazzed about how this turned out I'm going to post it here

Check it out, I've added flashing lights to my daughter's toy proton pack!



The lights can flash fast, flash slow, or stay solid on. It doesn't have a movie-accurate lighting pattern and also some of the lights are different colors, but whatever, it works really nicely and it was super cheap. The LED strand was like under a dollar each off Amazon.

I used a dremel to cut out the spots for the lights, used colored plastic sheets cut out to fit as lenses, and hot glued the whole thing together. I soldered the LED strand to a new button that I installed on the side, and soldered it to a larger battery pack than the default little coin batteries. I finished it with a layer of foam padding on the back, in order to cover up and protect all the electronics, add some comfort padding to the back, and also it adds some bulk to make the pack seem a bit bigger. After the other cosmetic changes I did earlier, adding some decals, paint, and a ribbon cable, and attaching the wand with an old VGA wire to the pack, I think it looks really good. My daughter wants to be a Ghostbuster for Halloween, so I felt like I needed to add some lights to the pack to make it even fancier and go with my fullsize proton pack.

For comparison, here's a product image showing what the pack started as. I decided to keep it blue, since I had one of the old Kenner Real Ghostbusters blue proton packs as a kid, so I kinda like the blue. So I didn't paint it black.


The shoulder straps kind of suck though, I think it'd be better if I had replaced those with better shoulder straps... but I've been working on this for like, weeks, so I figured it's time to be done. ...For now, at least.

HJE-Cobra fucked around with this message at 21:18 on May 21, 2024

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

That is peak Spirits Unleashed, as you can unlock the Kenner/RGB models for everything, except that they have the lights actually working.

Very, very nice. That's it, that right there; my true nostalgia for GB is with the toys and especially the proton pack.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
That is cool and you are a cool parent.

Inkspot
Dec 3, 2013

I believe I have
an appointment.
Mr. Goongala?
I used to make my dad play Ghostbusters with backpacks and Super Soakers. That looks loving rad.

HJE-Cobra
Jul 15, 2007

Bear Witness

Hell Gem
Thanks! I worked hard on it, and had to figure out a lot. Using the Dremel to cut out the right spots was kind of new to me, I only recently got the Dremel to work on my own proton pack and decided I could use it for this as well.

Gluing in the LEDs itself wasn't too difficult though. Mostly just hot glued it in place. Hopefully this holds up to the rigors of being worn by a child. But I can always fix it in the future if need be.

The Notorious ZSB
Apr 19, 2004

I SAID WE'RE NOT GONNA BE FUCKING SUCK THIS YEAR!!!

I finally watched Frozen Empire, and I would echo the general sentiment I'm grabbing here which is that...it was fine. Nothing particularly memorable, but also not bad or offensive or anything. It's just kinda there?

My biggest issue is with it being overly referential to visual sequences from the original (library ghost, exploding containment unit, Slimer slimin) but that's honestly kinda minor, it just feels more pandery than should be necessary. My biggest issue with it is that the finish of the film is deeply contrived with an answer that was never really setup or provided for with the containment unit. I really appreciate when you lay the pieces for the finish earlier in the film and revisit it, but there is really no discussion of the mechanics of their solution until oh man we need a moment here at the close!

I like how they use the OGs by and large, and I honestly enjoyed the Slimer bits, but maybe that's because it most reminded me of the cartoon and I loved that show. That said those Slimer sequences account for all of maybe 3-4 mins of the films run time? I dunno that all of the side plot threads really pay off, Rudd and the mom are just kinda around, same with stranger things kid and their sidekick friends. it was a fine little ghostbustin adventure, but they continue to lack the tight narrative of the original which is a key feature to me. I do think the next one (i assume they'll keep this going cause the basic cast is solid) really should push the new crew more prominently in terms of the big ghost bustin action. The OGs can be there, but I dunno that they need to be wearing the packs and getting involved in the dangerous act of taking on the big bad, i prefered their roles prior to the climax as mentors and supporters.

It was fine, but I'm okay with having not paid to see it in theaters and there is frankly not much that makes me want to come back to watch it again. Afterlife had a bit more of that, but they both suffer from the issue of "a continuation i did not need or ask for filling a void that didn't exist" to me.

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

The Notorious ZSB posted:

It was fine, but I'm okay with having not paid to see it in theaters and there is frankly not much that makes me want to come back to watch it again. Afterlife had a bit more of that, but they both suffer from the issue of "a continuation i did not need or ask for filling a void that didn't exist" to me.

The thing with Afterlife was that Egon was Jason Reitman's favorite character as a kid (in fairness, same here), and once he got the money to do a movie, it became a two-hour movie jacking off over the Spenglers, culminating in a CGI abomination that just. didn't end.

Frozen Empire was just a direction-less movie with no reason to exist and ends with Kumail Nanjiani in ancient armor for some ungodly reason.

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