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Time and time again majority of Dems show themselves to be weak willed. The number of Facebook appeals for reason and "we will survive this" are staggering and the exact antithesis to what the GOP has shown will bring success which is to not accept anything, fight like your loving life depends on it, and scare all those who won't accept the first two. I was thinking this election will bust up the Republicans but it looks like the Dems are going to have to start majorly retooling their philosophy
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slave to my cravings posted:Which state can Michelle Obama run for senator in 2018. She's the best hope for 2020 lol that anyone thinks the solution to the Democrats electoral woes in this climate is "hmmmm, what if we put up another political dynasty candidate???" worked great for the bushes and clintons
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michelle wanted to walk away from politics forever when hilldawg was a lock, there's no loving way she would consider running to unwind four/eight years of trumphell
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I don't even know that they need major retooling just some minor adjustments would win then the presidency back. Like the smallest of outreach to rust belt voters will go a long way when they realize trump can't and won't do poo poo for them to bring "manufacturing" jobs back. That won't solve their awful state level legislature problem but at least they might not lose to trump twice
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Nov 9, 2016 12:37
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mossyfisk posted:lol that anyone thinks the solution to the Democrats electoral woes in this climate is "hmmmm, what if we put up another political dynasty candidate???" I'm sure someone in the DNC is working on this now
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Nov 9, 2016 12:40
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slave to my cravings posted:That mannequin challenge video looks pretty funny now!
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:instead they just laid on the dogwhistle for the entire election thinking latino and black turnout would carry them over the 270 mark so she should have appealed to white male voters more? and where do you think the poc vote goes then?
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Nov 9, 2016 12:48
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you dont appeal to the white male vote or the poc vote you appeal to the mufuckin $17.27 in the checking account brokevote
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Nov 9, 2016 12:49
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Jonny 290 posted:you dont appeal to the white male vote or the poc vote you appeal to the mufuckin $17.27 in the checking account brokevote
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Nov 9, 2016 12:51
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KidDynamite posted:so she should have appealed to white male voters more? and where do you think the poc vote goes then? maybe you didn't get memo but trump won more of the latino and african american vote than obama did in 2012, largely on the backs of latino and african american males
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Nov 9, 2016 12:52
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Jonny 290 posted:you dont appeal to the white male vote or the poc vote you appeal to the mufuckin $17.27 in the checking account brokevote yep obama rallied a demographically diverse electorate around an economic message hillary was running against the scummiest new york millionaire shithead in the world and yet somehow couldn't find a way to play the economic populist, she tried to rely on racial and sexual demographics instead but failed miserably
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Nov 9, 2016 12:58
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Nov 9, 2016 13:03
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:maybe you didn't get memo but trump won more of the latino and african american vote than obama did in 2012, largely on the backs of latino and african american males going to assume you meant romney , then the question is were there less black and latino votes than in 2012? can you please link to your source?
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Nov 9, 2016 13:02
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Jonny 290 posted:you dont appeal to the white male vote or the poc vote you appeal to the mufuckin $17.27 in the checking account brokevote
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Nov 9, 2016 13:03
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:maybe you didn't get memo but trump won more of the latino and african american vote than obama did in 2012, largely on the backs of latino and african american males Romney, not Obama. This is stuff they said on the news networks. We won't have the hard data for a while.
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Nov 9, 2016 13:05
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KidDynamite posted:going to assume you meant romney , then the question is were there less black and latino votes than in 2012? can you please link to your source? oops, yeah more than romney in 2012 is what i meant
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Nov 9, 2016 13:06
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The fact that John Podesta spoke instead of her sums it up for me. Was she drunk or did she not bother to write a concession speech?
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Nov 9, 2016 13:06
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Jonny 290 posted:you dont appeal to the white male vote or the poc vote you appeal to the mufuckin $17.27 in the checking account brokevote 
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Nov 9, 2016 13:07
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Frosted Flake posted:did she not bother to write a concession speech? what does your heart tell you
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Nov 9, 2016 13:10
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apparently people lie on anonymous polls because they are that ashamed of their real vote
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Nov 9, 2016 13:12
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It should be a gently caress of a lot more than 53%.
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Nov 9, 2016 13:19
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They could just have the next nom from the DNC just fuckin lie. Promise them vast riches and extreme sex vacations. You need to trick the uneducated poor because apparently they can't be trusted to choose.
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Nov 9, 2016 13:47
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economics didn't loving matter this election. what mattered is the massive propaganda network the right has created in this country that brainwashed all the stupidest people in the land into being their undying servants, and America apparently has more "stupidest people in the land" than any other place in the western world. When one man's entire message is "I will make it good. it'll be the best you've ever seen" and you can't loving come up with an answer to that, that's a loving messaging problem and that's been the democrat weakness their entire modern existence
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Nov 9, 2016 13:49
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The DNC fucksd up big league by going after Pepe
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Fullhouse posted:economics didn't loving matter this election. what mattered is the massive propaganda network the right has created in this country that brainwashed all the stupidest people in the land into being their undying servants, and America apparently has more "stupidest people in the land" than any other place in the western world. When one man's entire message is "I will make it good. it'll be the best you've ever seen" and you can't loving come up with an answer to that, that's a loving messaging problem and that's been the democrat weakness their entire modern existence hmmm, I wonder why this essential electoral demographic you regularly denigrate as the 'stupidest people in the land' chose not to consider your candidate??
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Nov 9, 2016 14:01
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Fullhouse posted:economics didn't loving matter this election. what mattered is the massive propaganda network the right has created in this country that brainwashed all the stupidest people in the land into being their undying servants, and America apparently has more "stupidest people in the land" than any other place in the western world. When one man's entire message is "I will make it good. it'll be the best you've ever seen" and you can't loving come up with an answer to that, that's a loving messaging problem and that's been the democrat weakness their entire modern existence Hey look, the reason democrats didn't win in one concise post!
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Nov 9, 2016 14:04
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So there was a meeting in 2008 to set up Hillary's 2016 run, is that about right? How did this happen? I keep reading about the Clinton machine, but how does that work exactly?
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Nov 9, 2016 14:08
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Captain Internet posted:They could just have the next nom from the DNC just fuckin lie. Promise them vast riches and extreme sex vacations. You need to trick the uneducated poor because apparently they can't be trusted to choose. im fully on board with some extreme sex vacations
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Nov 9, 2016 14:08
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:like how do you acknowledge that white males are becoming more and more of a minority-like group in national politics for almost a decade now and still act shocked when they vote like a minority group? Black and Latino turnout was UP in Florida and Clinton still lost. The DNC got tricked by its own talking point that it could win without whites.
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Nov 9, 2016 14:26
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KidDynamite posted:Male fragility I thought fragile meant it was easily broken? It, uh, seems like Hillary got crushed and the white males who voted Trump were the ones who came through. KidDynamite posted:so she should have appealed to white male voters more? and where do you think the poc vote goes then? The P.O.C. vote goes to the only place it can go, the Democratic Party, because they are a captive demographic with no choice in the matter. What are they going to do, vote Trump? You cannot win an election in America without the support of white male voters. If you do not have a strategy for courting white male voters, you lose.
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mossyfisk posted:hmmm, I wonder why this essential electoral demographic you regularly denigrate as the 'stupidest people in the land' chose not to consider your candidate?? because she was bad. read past the first sentence
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Nov 9, 2016 14:49
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Baloogan posted:For all the predictions of the GOP imploding into bits of angry poo poo stains screaming at eachother for ever and ever you loving retards somehow forgot about like 6 goddamn states.
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Nov 9, 2016 14:53
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KidDynamite posted:Male fragility Keep pretending that pointing this out is helpful and not the reason Donald Trump is in the white house Lol, the concern trolls were right.
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The Kingfish posted:Black and Latino turnout was UP in Florida and Clinton still lost. The DNC got tricked by its own talking point that it could win without whites. Trump won a higher % of latino voters than Romney
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I thought Hillary was a really good candidate (though I was rooting for Bernie in the primary) and I'm blown away that Trump won. I was worried about him winning but everyone in C-Spam said I was an idiot so I calmed down. 
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Not a Step posted:I thought fragile meant it was easily broken? the biggest mistake we made this election, as a party, was assuming the opposite of this was true and this is why we lost I don't expect POC will have a lot of impact on shaping future candidates with either party after this one. The burning of a century. They didn't even turn out to vote for the candidate they picked. Good lord. 
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they didn't pick her. The DNC did, like a decade ago. No wonder they didn't turn out when it wasn't ever their choice to begin with.
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Mirthless posted:the biggest mistake we made this election, as a party, was assuming the opposite of this was true and this is why we lost Nah, they still matter, but this attitude that the P.O.C. vote is the only thing that counts and 'lol gently caress white people' has got to go. Future candidates need to find commonalities that appeal to voters of all races and genders, not just trumpet the fact that they too have a vagina and hope for the best. Strength in diversity, but don't forget white people are part of that diversity (and still the majority).
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