Larry Krasner is radically transforming criminal justice in Philadelphia

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Laphroaig: Feb 6, 2004; Drinking Smoke; Dinosaur Gum

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Teen-Suspect-in-Philadelphia-Slaying-of-Gerard-Grandzol-Child-Tried-as-Adult-478773473.html

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The Philadelphia District Attorney's office filed a motion Wednesday in support of trying as an adult the teenager who is accused of shooting a father and community activist last September.

Marvin Roberts, who was 16 at the time Gerard Grandzol was killed on Sept. 7, has requested through his defense attorney to be tried in juvenile court.

"This was absolutely a heinous crime," Philadelphia District Attorney told NBC10. "This is a case that belongs in adult court."

Grandzol's killing, which police say occurred during an attempted carjacking, has gained considerable attention, in part because of Grandzol's well-known community activism. Investigators also described the shooting as particularly horrific: The 38-year-old man was shot twice in the face as his 2-year-old daughter sat in the back seat of his car.

The motion filed Wednesday opposed one filed by Roberts' attorney on March 16 requesting that his trial be held in juvenile court.

"The defendant committed a brutal, premeditated murder without provocation. The defendant's actions both during and after the killing warrant prosecution as an adult," the DA's office wrote in the brief. "The limits of the juvenile justice system are wholly insufficient to adequately address the seriousness of this senseless killing."

Grandzol's widow has pressed Krasner to push for a trial on adult charges for Roberts. She recently told reporters that she planned to move to out of the city because she no longer felt safe in her own home.

Marvin Roberts, now 17, and his brother Maurice Roberts, 21, are being held in Grandzol's death.

Investigators allege the younger brother pulled the trigger last September in the 1500 block of Melon Street, two blocks south of Fairmount Avenue.

But Marvin Roberts' attorney, Eileen Hurley, said her client is not beyond rehabilitation.

The "defendant is clearly amendable (sic) to treatment," she wrote to Judge Kathryn S. Lewis.

Krasner disagrees.

"We're not seeing remorse," he said. "The evidence of guilt is overwhelming."

After filing the response, Krasner told NBC10 that he has not spoken to Grandzol's widow directly, but that his office did notify her of his office's opposition to a trial in juvenile court.

"What I can say to her is, 'Your grief is valued and we will do whatever we can to support that,'" Krasner said. "We are here to do whatever we can to make sure justice is achieved."

# ? Apr 5, 2018 15:23

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 06:57

EndTimesProfit: Jul 1, 2004; Don't worry son, it's just the Smilin' Mighty Jesus!

Laphroaig posted:

He met with Wilson's family in West Philly and danced around the issue, not issuing a firm answer to will he / won't he ask for the death penalty. Krasner's office has declined to comment about the case.

That said, I am against capital punishment by the state in any circumstance.

That said, bootstrap, you have your facts wrong;

Wilson was in the store, buying a game; the Hipps and Williams came in to rob the store, and when they saw Wilson they turned around and started shooting. Wilson got hit, started firing back, and began moving so that the gunfire would be in a direction away from where the other people in the store were.

This is a pretty horrible crime; its also the type of case that would easily get a jury to approve the death penalty, there is clear video surveillance of the entire gunfight.

Because its Philly and racial politics matter, Wilson was black, his shooters were black, Wilson's family that is asking Krasner to seek the death penalty is black.

Yep, I was going off my memory of the incident. Thanks for the clarification.

# ? Apr 5, 2018 17:36

Jedi Knight Luigi: Jul 13, 2009

lol @ a supposedly trained lawyer saying �amendable�

# ? Apr 5, 2018 20:02

Main Paineframe: Oct 27, 2010

Laphroaig posted:

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Teen-Suspect-in-Philadelphia-Slaying-of-Gerard-Grandzol-Child-Tried-as-Adult-478773473.html

trying juveniles as adults is complete bullshit

# ? Apr 5, 2018 23:02

TenementFunster: Feb 20, 2003; The Cooler King

Jedi Knight Luigi posted:

lol @ a supposedly trained lawyer saying �amendable�

spell check said it was okay!

Main Paineframe posted:

trying juveniles as adults is complete bullshit

a 16-year-old knows that murder 1 carjacking in front of a 2-year-old is a very bad crime, which is why krasner is trying him as an adult and putting him away for 25 years.

# ? Apr 6, 2018 20:27

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

glad to see Larry getting tough on crime

# ? Apr 6, 2018 20:35

Karl Barks: Jan 21, 1981

pobody's nerfect

# ? Apr 6, 2018 20:52

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

not the best move, Larry. still doing a lot of good

# ? Apr 6, 2018 21:25

BENGHAZI 2: Oct 13, 2007; by Cyrano4747

get that OUT of my face posted:

not the best move, Larry. still doing a lot of good

Yeah just because he's doing a bad thing wrt to this murder case his stance on what to do about drug and prostitution charges and aiming for diversion where possible is still good

# ? Apr 6, 2018 22:20

SKULL.GIF: Jan 20, 2017

https://twitter.com/EverydayasOrenG/status/984570913910853633

# ? Apr 13, 2018 18:35

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

meanwhile in sacramento

https://twitter.com/SarahKSilverman/status/990348614714064896

# ? Apr 29, 2018 00:06

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
(and can't post for 19 days!)

get that OUT of my face posted:

i gotta say, Louisiana is the absolute last state i figured would even consider something like this

Louisiana's prisons are so overcrowded they have to pay municipal sheriffs' departments to house them in county jails, which means they can't house regular overnight or weekly stay offenders either. So much of the state's budget gets thrown at housing prisoners that they can't afford it.

# ? Apr 29, 2018 02:02

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Louisiana's prisons are so overcrowded they have to pay municipal sheriffs' departments to house them in county jails, which means they can't house regular overnight or weekly stay offenders either. So much of the state's budget gets thrown at housing prisoners that they can't afford it.

you can't put a price on absolute spite

# ? Apr 29, 2018 03:10

Zeroisanumber: Oct 23, 2010; Nap Ghost

get that OUT of my face posted:

you can't put a price on absolute spite

Or a desire to re-enslave black men en masse.

# ? Apr 29, 2018 03:24

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
(and can't post for 19 days!)

get that OUT of my face posted:

you can't put a price on absolute spite

That's what they thought a couple decades ago, before all the overcrowding ended up compounding on the state budget to the point where even Republicans are willing to do incarceration reform.

# ? Apr 29, 2018 04:45

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

seattle is good though

https://twitter.com/rocksnruns/status/990312057529495552

# ? Apr 29, 2018 06:55

Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

That's what they thought a couple decades ago, before all the overcrowding ended up compounding on the state budget to the point where even Republicans are willing to do incarceration reform.

when there's no room left in hell, stoners will walk the earth

# ? Apr 29, 2018 07:09

Horseshoe theory: Mar 7, 2005

Unless Krasner is Jury Nullifying all cases, he ain't radically transforming poo poo.

# ? Apr 29, 2018 17:15

Laphroaig: Feb 6, 2004; Drinking Smoke; Dinosaur Gum

https://www.metro.us/news/local-news/philadelphia/philly-da-rolls-out-policy-to-expedite-expungement-process

This is extremely good news

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On Wednesday, DA Larry Krasner announced his latest new policy for the office: supporting all expungement requests by citizens who were acquitted, only convicted of a summary charge, or who completed a diversionary program. The policy also asks ADAs to positively seek expungement if they feel a defendant was wrongly accused. He said this would "expedite" the process for citizens already eligible for expungement but who previously would have had to show up in court, possibly multiple times, for proceedings that Krasner's staff described as "very random."

# ? May 3, 2018 15:00

get that OUT of my face: Feb 10, 2007

i'm curious, are there any lawyers in krasner's office that are trying to do their own little revolts against their new boss? or did he get rid of all the rotten ones?

# ? May 5, 2018 04:00

Kung Food: Dec 11, 2006; PORN WIZARD

get that OUT of my face posted:

i'm curious, are there any lawyers in krasner's office that are trying to do their own little revolts against their new boss? or did he get rid of all the rotten ones?

From the first post:

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In his first week on the job, he fired 31 prosecutors from the DA�s office because they weren�t committed to the changes he intended to make. �Change is never easy, but DA Krasner was given a clear mandate from the voters for transformational change,� his spokesperson said at the time. �Today�s actions are necessary to achieve that agenda.�

Anyone not willing to play ball was immediately fired. Rules.

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The Nastier Nate: May 22, 2005; All aboard the corona bus!

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Kung Food posted:

From the first post:

Anyone not willing to play ball was immediately fired. Rules.

I'm sure they all got cushy corporate law jobs

# ? Jun 19, 2018 19:11

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