Covid is done, H5N1 Bird Flu is going to kill you and everyone you love

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redshirt: Aug 11, 2007

Buce posted:

maybe trump'll get another crack at handling a pandemic! fun!

lol what could go wrong?

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 07:34

flubber nuts: Oct 5, 2005

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

One theory is that the outbreak in cow herds across the nation is due to the widespread practice of feeding chicken poo poo to cattle. It's super cheap and full of protein!!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariann...sh=541c910b8ed3

So maybe hold off on eating bird poo poo until we get this mess sorted out I guess

chicken poo poo for dinner. seems totally normal.

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covidstomper58: Nov 8, 2020

Sounds like a fancy fad diet. Is that why so many people are raising chickens in their suburban backyards now?

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dr_rat: Jun 4, 2001

covidstomper58 posted:

Sounds like a fancy fad diet. Is that why so many people are raising chickens in their suburban backyards now?

Nah, chicken lobby just got good tax incentives through for people who adopt homeless chickens. Program works though, since it got passed there's been far less homeless chickens about.

# ? May 5, 2024 04:08

hypoallergenic cat breed: Dec 16, 2010

flubber nuts posted:

chicken poo poo for dinner. seems totally normal.

Hey everyone says "reduce reuse recycle" but when you try to put it into practice suddenly it's "why are you feeding cows poo poo?"

Seriously though, I actually was taught this in college in an animal nutrition class, cow gut bacteria can break down the urea into protein and farmers are always looking to save on feed bills. Other things we were told to feed cows include expired baked goods and candy, fishmeal, bloodmeal, and feathers. Cows are really just used like big trash compactors.

# ? May 5, 2024 04:10

Snowglobe of Doom: Mar 30, 2012; sucks to be right

hypoallergenic cat breed posted:

Hey everyone says "reduce reuse recycle" but when you try to put it into practice suddenly it's "why are you feeding cows poo poo?"

Seriously though, I actually was taught this in college in an animal nutrition class, cow gut bacteria can break down the urea into protein and farmers are always looking to save on feed bills. Other things we were told to feed cows include expired baked goods and candy, fishmeal, bloodmeal, and feathers. Cows are really just used like big trash compactors.

.... and then when the cattle are slaughtered the excess "ruminant protein" is ground into meal and fed back to the chickens. They had to slightly alter the formula and leave out the brain matter and cerebrospinal fluids back during the Mad Cow Disease scare which US farmers were pretty annoyed about

IT'S THE CIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRCLE
CIRCLE OF ~~factory farmed animal cruelty~~ LIIIIIIIIIIFE

# ? May 5, 2024 04:26

BasicLich: Oct 22, 2020; A very smart little mouse!

thank god

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Time_pants: Jun 25, 2012; Now sauntering to the ring, please welcome the lackadaisical style of the man who is always doing something...

Buce posted:

maybe trump'll get another crack at handling a pandemic! fun!

And back to therapy I go.

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AlmightyBob: Sep 8, 2003

Time_pants posted:

And back to therapy I go.

yeah that's a fuckin downer

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flubber nuts: Oct 5, 2005

hypoallergenic cat breed posted:

Hey everyone says "reduce reuse recycle" but when you try to put it into practice suddenly it's "why are you feeding cows poo poo?"

Seriously though, I actually was taught this in college in an animal nutrition class, cow gut bacteria can break down the urea into protein and farmers are always looking to save on feed bills. Other things we were told to feed cows include expired baked goods and candy, fishmeal, bloodmeal, and feathers. Cows are really just used like big trash compactors.

dont forget they leave the wrappers on some of the candy. cows loving love candy wrappers.

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Uncle Lloyd: Sep 2, 2019

hypoallergenic cat breed posted:

Hey everyone says "reduce reuse recycle" but when you try to put it into practice suddenly it's "why are you feeding cows poo poo?"

Seriously though, I actually was taught this in college in an animal nutrition class, cow gut bacteria can break down the urea into protein and farmers are always looking to save on feed bills. Other things we were told to feed cows include expired baked goods and candy, fishmeal, bloodmeal, and feathers. Cows are really just used like big trash compactors.

See I had never heard of feeding litter until a couple weeks ago, I assumed at first that there had been some miscommunication or misunderstanding on the part of a reporter and they got confused about bone or blood meal. I guess it must be more common near poultry slaughterhouses, I wouldn't think it'd be nutrient dense enough to be worth transporting long distances.

Bone/blood meal is used because it's an efficient way to increase solid components in the milk (fat and especially protein) since the amino acids are pretty close to those in the solids, so there is less work for the digestive system to do.

This is one of our blended grains, it doesn't have percentages of ingredients but you can see "animal protein products" is down where the mineral/vitamin additives start so I would think it's ~1% or less of the mix. This blend in itself is about half the total grain in the ration, most of the rest is straight corn and canola meal, and the total grain is between about 30 and 35% of the complete ration (as dry matter, much less as actual weight), depending on the particular diet being fed, the majority being corn and grass silage.

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hypoallergenic cat breed: Dec 16, 2010

Uncle Lloyd posted:

See I had never heard of feeding litter until a couple weeks ago, I assumed at first that there had been some miscommunication or misunderstanding on the part of a reporter and they got confused about bone or blood meal. I guess it must be more common near poultry slaughterhouses, I wouldn't think it'd be nutrient dense enough to be worth transporting long distances.

Bone/blood meal is used because it's an efficient way to increase solid components in the milk (fat and especially protein) since the amino acids are pretty close to those in the solids, so there is less work for the digestive system to do.

This is one of our blended grains, it doesn't have percentages of ingredients but you can see "animal protein products" is down where the mineral/vitamin additives start so I would think it's ~1% or less of the mix. This blend in itself is about half the total grain in the ration, most of the rest is straight corn and canola meal, and the total grain is between about 30 and 35% of the complete ration (as dry matter, much less as actual weight), depending on the particular diet being fed, the majority being corn and grass silage.

I used to work for a poultry producer and they definitely sold the litter to feed mills as well as to farmers as fertilizer. It really depends on who is nearby and what sort of integration the meat companies have. The broiler farmers would absolutely not want to pay to have their litter hauled away without some sort of compensation. And to be fair they do cook the hell out of the litter before feeding it to cattle which should help reduce the amount of disease transmission but of course some cut corners, and there's always a farmer or two who will try to bury their dead chickens in the litter rather than having to cremate or dig a hole. I left the industry rather quickly once I saw how little the people in charge actually cared about regulations, I was ridiculously optimistic when I first started but that was quickly and thoroughly squashed.

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Snowglobe of Doom: Mar 30, 2012; sucks to be right

hypoallergenic cat breed posted:

I used to work for a poultry producer and they definitely sold the litter to feed mills as well as to farmers as fertilizer. It really depends on who is nearby and what sort of integration the meat companies have. The broiler farmers would absolutely not want to pay to have their litter hauled away without some sort of compensation. And to be fair they do cook the hell out of the litter before feeding it to cattle which should help reduce the amount of disease transmission but of course some cut corners, and there's always a farmer or two who will try to bury their dead chickens in the litter rather than having to cremate or dig a hole. I left the industry rather quickly once I saw how little the people in charge actually cared about regulations, I was ridiculously optimistic when I first started but that was quickly and thoroughly squashed.

Yeah broiler litter is onsold to cattle farmers in industrial amounts in the US, to the tune of several million tons annually

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