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I am absolutely in love with Homestuck and I am not even slightly sorry. That thing has shown just how much you can do with this medium and if this was a fair world it would have changed the way people look at webcomics. I am not sure what you mean when you say that the story is "up its own rear end". Could you elaborate on that, please?
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2013 11:30 |
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Extra Koos posted:He means it's recursive. I am not sure where do you see that. While it is true that the story is extremely long, I don't remember a scene that I found completely useless, even if it is just to get a laugh. The closest I can think of is the infamous act 5 part with the trolls, but even then it's not like they came out of nowhere: we knew that they had something to do with SBURB and that they knew the kids where going to fail. Oh, and they were also aliens. Very well-characterized aliens at that. I wanted to find out more about them just because of that.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2013 11:48 |
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Bongo Bill posted:What he means is that the comic has so many things in it that too many of them are things that he doesn't like. Oh well. Like it was said before, Homestuck isn't for everybody. It just pushes too many of my buttons for me not to react like a teenage girl to Justin Bieber.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2013 11:59 |
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Oh, the pirate porn intermission. I remember thinking "Did Vriska base her whole life on old-timey smut?"
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2013 13:37 |
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Remember: by word of the Huss, all ships are canon. The implication being that it happened in an offshoot doomed timeline that probably self-destroyed the moment Equius' trembling lips connected with Jade's, but still. It's canon.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2013 18:03 |
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Yeah, BKEW kind of went overboard with that chart. Especially the whole "Maids create their aspect" deal, which is frankly ridiculous.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2013 18:30 |
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Remember when Aradia stopped Jack Noir after reachibg God Tier? That was apparently her creating more Time for Jack to pass through. We saw with Roxy's power that the God Tier powers are really flexible but somehow I doubt this is the case. Call it an hunch.
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# ¿ Dec 15, 2013 19:26 |
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Dirk and Jake are probably the least interesting kids. All the others are unique and interesting in a way or another, while the former is a more down-to-earth, sexually repressed Rose and the latter is Act 2 John in the fifties. They needed more time to become as developped as the others, in my opinion. I'm not sure why the Alpha girls didn't suffer in the same way. Maybe their issues are easier to understand and connect with; maybe they are just more naturally likeable. e: When I say "the least interesting" I don't mean that they aren't good characters. They just aren't on the same level of some of the others. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Dec 16, 2013 |
# ¿ Dec 16, 2013 13:09 |
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Still, I don't want to say thay tha Alpha are BAD characters, per se. They just weren't given enough room to grow, and for us to grow fon of them. If you read the first part of Homestuck John seems little more than your generic naive hero-nerd, and look how far he got. ...okay, so the reader suggestions are partially responsible for that. My point still stands. e: Bongo Bill, you bring up a good point, actually. It would be very interesting to see the interactions between these two groups. It would also be amazing. I hope we get to see lots of that in the final update. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Dec 16, 2013 |
# ¿ Dec 16, 2013 17:28 |
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CJacobs posted:This is actually the truth. The Huss views the pornography of Homestuck as weird despite having gone to extreme lengths to explain how trolls reproduce (even though that was for the purposes of one large joke after all is said and done). In his own words (paraphrased a bit), "it's gross, because they're y'know, just kids." When has this ever stopped anyone?
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2013 17:35 |
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Goddamnit I just reread the JohnRoxy conversation. John is so loving nice. "she's just a nice nerd who likes to read and knit" after Rose was all scared to meet her mother and he is trying to smooth things over, oh my God. Why do people believe that John is just a doofus? Boy's got enough empathy for all of Alternia.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2013 17:52 |
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I am also hoping for an happy ending, or at least as happy as it can get given the circumstances. I think Hussie can pull it off. Going back to what is clearly the more important issue here: the best Karkat moment is his memo with John and Dave, the one with the shipping grid.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2013 22:59 |
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I am actually a little worried about this. Isn't there the risk that he will not be taken seriously, if this is the first interview released in the game industry? I know that he already has a reputation because of MSPA, but still.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2013 13:27 |
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If he really is happy about it, it means that Hussie has reached that mystical lifestyle where you just do what you love and don't give a poo poo about the rest of the world. In which case I will admire him even more.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2013 15:13 |
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Does anyone here know of the Homestuck Liveblogs that are becoming popular on Tumblr? It's basically just people reading Homestuck and writing their reactions for all of the Internet to see, usually while making predictions and/or trying to be entartaining. The ones I follow are: -LOBAC (Land of Boredom and Confusion), the first of the latest generation and by many considered the greatest, nicknamed the Seer of Plot for her talent with predictions. -HS Livebloggery, a little more cerebral than LOBAC and with a tendency to research stuff. Famous for her old-timey alliterrative exclamations. -Lil' Sis, who was introduced into Homestuck by her Big Sis and has a delightfully dry sense of humor.
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# ¿ Dec 23, 2013 02:00 |
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Zoe posted:I actually just recently started reading Homestuck myself, basically just on a whim after being vaguely aware for years now that it was a thing that existed and hearing it was going to be wrapping up soon. You're not too late to start a liveblog if you want to. Just write down your impression of it up until now and start your liveblog by posting that. I would also encourage you to avoid spoilers as much as possible, as to keep genuine first impressions as soon as possible.
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# ¿ Dec 24, 2013 17:35 |
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ColabHQ isn't actually a liveblog; it's actually a bunch of people who decided to voice act Homestuck, in all of its longer-than-War-and-Peace glory. This fandom is crazy, but it's an ingenious kind of crazy, like Nikola Tesla. I honestly don't get all this hate with livebloggers; maybe I just happen to follow some high-quality ones and because of that I have never seen this weirdness you speak of. Could someone explain?
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2013 11:21 |
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Eox posted:Haven't there been a BUNCH of projects wherein people voice act the entirety of homestuck? I mean just go on tindeck and you'll find thousands of nasally teenagers trying to be trolls. Yes, but these guys started with "A young man stands in his bedroom" and plan to go all the way through. Also they have standards when it comes to quality of voice acting, which is far from universal.
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# ¿ Dec 25, 2013 11:34 |
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So here's where this thread went. I was afraid that the mods decided to cancel it until Homestuck updated again, fearing that we were going OT. Here in Italy we don't have Hot Topic, but from what I can tell from the website they have a lot of different merchandises. Maybe they hope to cater to the Homestuck crowd to expand their clientele? The average fan of Hussie's work certainly is a fan of other stuff, and Hot Topic could sell merchandise of it to them, after luring them in their store with the promise of John figurines.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2014 19:14 |
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I have an hard time criticizing Homestuck, because everything is so linked to everything else, and it's so immense, that I honestly have no idea what one could change it without having the whole thing either collapse unto itself or lose some of its value. But I am a diehard fan of it so I don't think I should trust my judgement on this one.Dolash posted:I'm alright with the whole Lord English/Caliborn/Doc Scratch set of villains, but they could've used being built up earlier. Dave made a good point when he asked why he should possibly care about Lord English and whatever nefarious scheme he's got going on, the story's waited far too late to make him matter to us and the heroes - so much went into Bec Noir, and he really has just been sort of discarded. It kind of fits that Doc Scratch doesn't have that much of an impact after LE's appearance, since he's just his servant. But I suppose if both stuck around it would have been nice. The intelectual, indirect nature of Doc Scratch could have been an interesting foil to LE's explosive and brutish attitude. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Mar 8, 2014 |
# ¿ Mar 8, 2014 11:05 |
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frozentreasure posted:I think the conversation has gone in at least two circles by this point; I know Hivebent as a side story and the unfortunate nature of Feferi and Nepeta being combined into a character where the whole is significantly less than the sum of its parts have been brought up in the last couple of weeks, at the very least. It's hard to talk about a webcomic that hasn't been updated for months, especially if you're used to a much faster update speed. Here's something that kinda confuses me: what exactly is Rage? I think that one might be the least understood aspect, in no small part because Gamzee is such an hard-to-pin-down character.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2014 21:01 |
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Dolash posted:All that stuff about classes seems somewhat tacked on after the fact, like first Hussie came up with these cool titles for everyone and then he tried to explain what they meant and how they fit with what the corresponding character had done up to that point. That may be, but there are a lot of patterns or personality traits that seem to repeat themselves in characters with similar classes, to the point that I find it hard to believe he didn't at least had a rough idea of what they meant when he made them; if not of the single elements, at least of what they meant together. For example, I've read an interesting theory that states that Knights have the aspect that their session lacks. Even if word of God establishes this to be true,it doesn't mean that Hussie planned for this to be a feature of Knights when introducing Dave's role, but maybe with Karkat he did, and by the time he introduced Latula he probably was aware at least that some fans made the connection. Of course it's just a theory, but still. On the subject of Gamzee and Rage: I think there's more of this aspect than it says on the tin. No other aspect seems to be exclusively linear in his meaning, with the possible exception of Breath, and even then most Breath players are similar enough to draw some conclusion. I'll check out some more theories and share them, if that's okay. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Mar 20, 2014 |
# ¿ Mar 20, 2014 18:56 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Also it seems kind of super boring and contrived and just a way to easily explain away why the characters do the things they do. Like, Bro keeps leaving weird copies of himself, constantly casting off the old self and trying something new. Well that's neat, why does he do that? Maybe he's unsure of who he is and what he wants so he keeps trying out new things to find that. Maybe he's some weirdo narcissist who just spreads himself everywhere. Or maybe he's afraid he can't handle all the poo poo he wants to do, so he creates these facsimiles so when they end up failing he can shrug it all off, lie to himself, and say "Well the robot me failed, so I didn't actually mess up!" I see it like this: it's not that Dirk leaves around copies of himself because he's the Prince of Heart, but he's the Prince of Heart because he leaves around copies of himself. Their roles aren't a justification or a reason for their action; they're more like a label put on the characters, to give you a general idea of what you can expect from them. And even then it's not a definitive: we've seen that it's possile to strain from your designed classpect. Before accepting her role as Seer of Light, Rose wasn't a guide from behind the curtains, she was a doer who was halfway through destroying her own land and possibly the game before she was stopped. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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RZApublican posted:Wait, which one of them would be Future Karkat The one looking away. He knows his past self is going to take a peek at Jade and he's preparing himself to berate him.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2014 09:17 |
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Tenebrais posted:But not in a gay way or anything. No chrono.
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2014 11:19 |
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I never found stoner jokes to be all that funny, honestly. But if we're talking about alternate character interpretation, I'll say that I have a sweet spot for Toddlerstuck. There's something inherently pleasant in taking the universe-shaking events in Homestuck and put them in a pre-school context. edit: eliminated link because it's against the rules to post fanfiction. Sorry about that. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Mar 23, 2014 |
# ¿ Mar 23, 2014 16:28 |
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It's just a weird ask blog and fanfiction hybrid. It's not high literature but it looks harmless enough to me. Also, why "again"? Does this thread get closed often? paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Mar 23, 2014 |
# ¿ Mar 23, 2014 23:33 |
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Plom Bar posted:I think that was less about the immediately previous post and more about us talking about two Karkats in a tub with Jade. This thread usually gets closed during extended hiatuses because cabin fever hits Homestuck readers pretty hard. Maybe the Internet made me too jaded about this but the tone seemed jokeful enough not to come across as creepy.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2014 00:01 |
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David Copperfield posted:I was more freaked out by the Toddler thing. It wasn't creepy as much as It's an AU-fic-askblog-whatever where a swimming teacher gives rest to her maternal istincts by writing about baby versions of the cast. It's pretty innocent, all things considered. I posted mainly because I find it pretty well written and cute considering the source. Sorry if it upset you but I don't find it weird. If you REALLY want to go you need to read Homestuck High. It's the My Immortal of Homestuck and that's saying enough. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Mar 24, 2014 |
# ¿ Mar 24, 2014 00:17 |
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Bongo Bill posted:Please stop implying that you know a lot about the Homestuck fanfic scene. Bongo Bill posted:Indeed, his username causes him to imply that he knows a lot about the Homestuck fanfic scene with every post he makes. Therefore, he should stop posting. Oh, I know there's some weird poo poo out there when it comes to fanfiction. I just happen to know the most infamous part of it. Can you honestly tell me that Homestuck High doensn't deserve its reputation?
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2014 00:44 |
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King of Solomon posted:Prior to your posting I had never heard of it. I imagine this goes for a decent chunk of the people here. I guess I was in the wrong for presuming, then. Well, now you know: Homestuck has its own So Horrible It's Hilarious fanfiction. Do with this knowledge what you will. JT Jag posted:From the lowercase first name, uppercase second name, I presume that paradoxGentleman here is an import from the official MSPA forums. Thus, it is reasonable to assume that they do know a lot about the Homestuck fanfic scene. Freak Futanari posted:This guy is basically making GBS threads all over himself and it's hilarious, to me. Could you please explain what am I doing wrong?
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2014 00:57 |
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Daius posted:You're still posting. The hole you're in now is so deep that you're swimming in magma. Freak Futanari posted:You're giving us too little information. Please tell us more about the fanfics you like and/or dislike. If you could tell us your OTP, that would be really cool. Allright, time to explain the joke, beacause you don't seem to get it: Homestuck High is one of the worst pieces of fiction ever written by human hands. The grammar is atrocious to the point of being impossible to understand, the plot doesn't make sense even by fanfiction standard and the characters can barely be defined as such. I was suggesting it to have a laugh at it, not because it's good. I know you're trying to be passive-aggressive here, but I'm honestly just trying to contribute to the conversation. If someone could please explain where I went wrong I'd be happy to correct myself. Bongo Bill posted:This is what we've come to. Trolling the newbie is hardly something rare. I might as well learn something from this. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Mar 24, 2014 |
# ¿ Mar 24, 2014 01:17 |
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YF-23 posted:You know way more about Homestuck fanfiction than anyone here is comfortable with. Here's an image from the ILoveFine contest as a peace offering.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2014 01:41 |
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rotinaj posted:So, jokes that are about adult situations are bad. Jokes about very young child situations are good. Combine that with the rest of your posting, and I sure have in my head. Angry Walrus posted:Get that kid some braces, Jesus, just look at those chompers. One thing should be common in every fanart of John: he is the nightmare of every dentist. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Mar 24, 2014 |
# ¿ Mar 24, 2014 01:49 |
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Honestly, I'm disappointed we didn't get links to these so-called "terrible" fanfics. rotinaj posted:Serious talk time. I appreciate that you're being very diplomatic in your responses here, but you should probably take Forum Rule #1 to heart and just lurk more. Your candor in this thread has come off as really quite creepy, and exactly the kind of Homestuck fan behavior that is often made fun of on the SA Forums. Again, the fact that you're being so cool about people razzing you is nice, but dude. Just take a break from posting. Just as a disclaimer: I didn't mean anything weird by "pleasant". English is not my first language and sometimes I pick the wrong word for expressing what I want to say. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Mar 24, 2014 |
# ¿ Mar 24, 2014 08:55 |
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:My younger brother just texted me he has started reading Homestuck, what do I do? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBXyB7niEc0 Than tell him to start a liveblog. They're all the rage nowadays.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2014 14:48 |
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Triskelli posted:I was going to say this, but there's no surer way to make the read a chore and stall out halfway through act 5. Tell him to stay away from tumblr. Good point. Only tell him to do that if he's into media analisys, writing or being under the patronage of a guy with knives for glasses.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2014 19:30 |
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I also suggest Rex Duodecim Angelus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g28yJwt7MT8 Either show them to him as he gets farther into the story, so he doesn't get spoilers, or all in one go, so he gets such an avalanche of information that he forgets everything and he still doesn't get spoilers. Spoilers be hella bad, yo.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2014 23:05 |
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Dolash posted:I actually thought it was some kind of hosed-up glove at first. I think this is aimed at the teenager fans starved for content that try to fill the hole left by Homestuck with merchandise.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2014 11:33 |
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frozentreasure posted:On a different note, I was hanging out with some friends today and expressed my annoyance at a person using the term "auspistice" to refer to themselves as a mediator in a conversation I was having with a scumbag a couple of weeks ago frozentreasure posted:and one of the people there started solemnly defending the use of the quadrant names to refer to actual human relationships. Honestlu, it can be funny to equate a fictional character's interactions with another with another to a quadrant, but you should never, [i]ever[i] take it seriously. Hussie didn't crack the metaphysical code of relationships and put it into his webcomic. And if you do the same with real life people, and you're not joking, you should seriously revaluate your life choices.
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