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TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

i own every Bionicle posted:

Edit: forgot to mention my relief hearing about TMA and Pavlov’s successful journey. Hope he settles into his new home comfortably.

He spent most of yesterday in bed, but by the end he was trying to use his travel food bowl as a chew toy, so I think he's recovering well :v:



We just took a ~2 mile walk around the neighborhood, and he was checking out the smells -- and leaving his own, of course! I think it's a sign of progress that he's marking instead of just dumping all of his pee in one spot.

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TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
I decided Pavlov has had enough time in the new house that he probably doesn't need to take his Trazodone (anti-anxiety meds) any more, and whooooo boy, he is bouncing off the walls! In addition to helping him chill out, they also noticeably sap his energy level, so I guess it's not surprising that there'd be a rebound. :v: I gotta get him some more toys, stat.

We had a really nice walk this morning, despite the 22F/-5C temperature. Met a few neighbors, and a couple of very excitable dogs. :3:

i own every Bionicle
Oct 23, 2005

cstm ttle? kthxbye
Hell yeah

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

Little Bear needs a TPLO (knee surgery) for his right leg now. Almost two years after having the same procedure on his left. Poor guy :(

He did really well with the first surgery and recovery. But it's a lot.

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


Rand Brittain posted:

I'm a little concerned lately at how much time Campion, a nine-month-old golden retriever, spends breathing heavily while doing nothing in particular. He's not panting, and he has plenty of water (not that it's hot), but he spends a lot of time breathing loud, short breaths that make me wonder if something is going on. Is this a sign of nervousness or something?

Never had a dog with it, but a sign of congestive heart failure in a cat. Does he have a murmur?

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(

Submarine Sandpaper posted:

Never had a dog with it, but a sign of congestive heart failure in a cat. Does he have a murmur?

Not to scare anyone but this was the symptom that brought us to bring in our cat, that led to his diagnosis of heart failure (and unfortunately with cats, like most, chose to euthanize). It's important to confirm, it's a terrible thing to face but it's a terrible way to pass naturally from.
Apparently this can also be a result of asthma, a long-standing blockage or even diabetes though, so don't panic yet.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
So far the vet seems confident that he's just excited and anxious as a puppy teenager (albeit loud).

INTJ Mastermind
Dec 30, 2004

It's a radial!

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

I'm currently on the plane, waiting for takeoff. Pavlov is in cargo, very audibly barking his head off.

If you flew on a A320 series airplane, they have a component of the hydraulics system, which when activated, sounds remarkably like a barking dog.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

INTJ Mastermind posted:

If you flew on a A320 series airplane, they have a component of the hydraulics system, which when activated, sounds remarkably like a barking dog.

That is an interesting fact! Do you know what that component is used for?

For the record, Airbus planes don't have the conditioned cargo space needed to transport large dogs. We flew on a Boeing 737 Max-9, IIRC.

INTJ Mastermind
Dec 30, 2004

It's a radial!

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

That is an interesting fact! Do you know what that component is used for?

https://simpleflying.com/airbus-barking-dog-sound/

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
I took Campion to the vet today and they confirmed that his heart and lungs are both strong, so it seems like the constant panting is just anxiety, although I'm still not sure exactly what could be causing it other than hormones.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
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Well, New Home has a rabbit issue. And that means we have a rabbit poop issue. And that means that Pavlov has a new smorgasbord of gustatory delights to explore :negative:

I'm looking to get fences put in that should hopefully keep the rabbits out (I'll add in subterranean wire mesh if necessary), but man, what the gently caress dog?

i own every Bionicle
Oct 23, 2005

cstm ttle? kthxbye
I used to have a lot of rabbits coming through the yard but Newton’s chasing them out when he sees them and peeing around the border seems to have delapinated the place after a week or so. So hopefully Pavlov will do the same and have fewer yard raisins.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Rabbits are almost as good at getting into fenced areas as rats, good luck

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
A pair of idiots last year were trying to dig a nest not 25ft from the garage rear door that Pongo goes in and out of. They were finally dissuaded. Now, there is one hanging out not much further out past the garden that gets chased off a lot of nights when I let Pongo out for last call.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Brisket got most of the rabbits to move out, occasionally one strays into the yard but he's big on chasing them and they don't stay.

His uncle Kirby was more diligent about his work with bunnies and would find their burrows and once and we :nms:had to clean up dead, headless, baby bunnies in the house

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance
I heard that rabbits prefer yards with big dogs because they keep cats away.

Stella was scared of or possibly transfixed by rabbits, we'd always have them in our yard and if there was one out there at night for her last pee I would have to escort her to a separate part of the yard or she wouldn't go out.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Crufts is on and jfc they just let anyone run the agility course now

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prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance
So we never heard back from that rescue agency after my wife sent a followup just explaining what happened and attached some pics of her bite wounds. The dogs are still up on their socials which sucks to see but I think they're in a good foster situation at least and we gave the new fosters a heads up about what happened. Given that the rescue didn't tell the new fosters that one of the dogs bit my wife I'm definitely not comfortable fostering for them again anyway.

My wife has been really affected by the whole thing, she thinks the rescue thinks it was all our fault and we're terrible dog people and yadda yadda so she's just been really down. We got in touch with our vet to ask if they're involved with any rescues and they seemed so happy to hear from us and to hear that we want to foster so that was a big pick-me-up. I'm a bit nervous about bringing another big dog into the house after what happened but we've had so many come through and never had a problem like that before so I guess I'll just have to get back on the horse. I think my wife will leave me if I try to stand between her and having a dog in the house (and probably rightly so)


Tayter Swift posted:

Crufts is on and jfc they just let anyone run the agility course now



lol

Hobnob
Feb 23, 2006

Ursa Adorandum
Ollie needed an ear infection seen to, but was too stressed out at the vet to be treated.



So they gave him a sedative. Currently zonked out and farting. Ears were successfully treated, though.

Gangringo
Jul 22, 2007

In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one sat.

He chose the path of perpetual contentment.

Today Umbra found out that the stripey cats are spicy. Her first instinct after getting sprayed by a skunk was to run inside and rub her face against every surface she could find in the house. Had to rush her to a pet supply place that has a dog wash for a skunk bath. Now I have the house ventilating heavily while I hose down the entire house in an enzyme cleaner.

It's a good thing she's pretty.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
Skunks are the worst, Pongo got hit with one last year. Took a good 8 months for him to stop having a whiff of skunk when he is wet.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Maple has managed to be broadly speaking sane outside of the play pen for several hours for a few days this week :toot:

negativeneil
Jul 8, 2000

"Personally, I think he's done a great job of being down to earth so far."
Ok my puppy broke me today: she simply will not pee outside. We have turf, I've sprayed it with some "attractor" stuff. I have a leash. I watch her like a hawk inside and the second she's sniffing around, I take her out to the pee spot. She just sits there like a dumbass for upwards of ten minutes in the same spot and when I give up and assume she has nothing, we go inside and she pees at the earliest opportunity.

What do I do?

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
I guess 10 minutes isn't enough :shrug:

puppies are jerks

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

negativeneil posted:

Ok my puppy broke me today: she simply will not pee outside. We have turf, I've sprayed it with some "attractor" stuff. I have a leash. I watch her like a hawk inside and the second she's sniffing around, I take her out to the pee spot. She just sits there like a dumbass for upwards of ten minutes in the same spot and when I give up and assume she has nothing, we go inside and she pees at the earliest opportunity.

What do I do?

You've really got to be more stubborn than your dog, which can be difficult. Ten minutes is probably not long enough. If you go back inside you can leash her to you (put the leash on your belt or something) so that she won't be able to sneak away and pee. The main thing is to get her going outside at any cost (sanity, time) and then give her lots of praise for going without being scary about it. Also once she's gone outside you can bring her back to the area she went to help her find it again. It can be scary sometimes for dogs to go in a new place, they'd rather go in the house where they're used to going and are comfortable.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Headphones and a podcast can help, unless the cold is also being unreasonable.

Boot and Rally
Apr 21, 2006

8===D
Nap Ghost
It sounds like she is taking the trip outside as a chance to explore (or the fear thing mentioned earlier). Once she is back in familiar territory and she isn't as focused on the new surroundings, she relieves herself. How old is the puppy? Do you take her to the same spot every time? At other times do you play with her in that spot? Does she forget to pee every time you get her outside, including in the mornings?

If your puppy has been in her crate while you sleep, she will have to pee when you first let her out in the morning. If you go out and wait around for 10 minutes and she doesn't pee, she should go back into her crate. Try again in ~30 minutes. Only after she has relieved herself outside can she come out of the crate for food and fun times.

I found the idea that you can tell your dog is going to pee very dubious. Once, my puppy was watching birds while sitting at a window, and without breaking eye contact with said birds, lifted her haunches a few inches and relieved herself. Now I read "watching your dog" as "doing something with your dog" because if I don't have her focus she can lose it.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Yeah sometimes Maple goes from tearing around the house and playing to peeing without so much as a sniff between.

Puppies, man :shrug:

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

One of the keys for Pochi was to stand in her bathroom spot until she went. She didn't get any fun sniffing until she went. We didn't go back inside until she went. It took her awhile but she's very independent.

negativeneil
Jul 8, 2000

"Personally, I think he's done a great job of being down to earth so far."

Boot and Rally posted:

It sounds like she is taking the trip outside as a chance to explore (or the fear thing mentioned earlier). Once she is back in familiar territory and she isn't as focused on the new surroundings, she relieves herself. How old is the puppy? Do you take her to the same spot every time? At other times do you play with her in that spot? Does she forget to pee every time you get her outside, including in the mornings?


This was it. She's 9 weeks old. I just assumed she would decide where she wanted to make her "spot" outside, but it's just too exciting out here! We plopped a wire fence around a portion of the turf and potty train in there. I would use a leash if I could, but my partner is recovering from back surgery so any leash tugs are pretty stressful for her right now. Pen lets us make it stress free and chill.

Boot and Rally posted:

I found the idea that you can tell your dog is going to pee very dubious. Once, my puppy was watching birds while sitting at a window, and without breaking eye contact with said birds, lifted her haunches a few inches and relieved herself. Now I read "watching your dog" as "doing something with your dog" because if I don't have her focus she can lose it.

Shugojin posted:

Yeah sometimes Maple goes from tearing around the house and playing to peeing without so much as a sniff between.

Puppies, man :shrug:

I did not mean to imply I am very successful at preventing her from peeing inside! After a few days I think I'm learning to recognize the cues, though: we're playing and having a good time and she's suddenly overcome with a need to start sniffing around looking for something. If we don't intervene, she's SO FAST and will do a pee squat. Last night I was determined to get her to poop outside. It's day 5 and it's been nothing but poop accidents in the house. We'd had moderate success peeing outside, but poops? Nope. This little dog was DETERMINED to poop inside. I knew it too, because I caught her right as she arched her back and squared up for a poop but I was able to intervene and get her into the backyard.

20 minutes followed in the pen where I said "go potty" and coaxed her to no avail so I brought her back in and played with her more. Every ~10 minutes or so you could just see the lightbulb go on and she'd drop whatever she was focused on and go off sniffing looking for a place to deposit. So again I'm following her around and she's starting to realize I'm onto her tactics. It was honestly pretty funny, I was careful not to make it scary but I think she started to get annoyed that I knew she wanted to poop in the house! So I'd take her out as soon as she was showing those same cues. In the pen, she'd stare me down and refuse to poop. This went on for 90 loving minutes of extended periods in the backyard and then back inside to play until she tried to sneak off again. Finally, I put her in once more and this time, her normal "sniff around and maybe decide to pee or just sit and stare at you" routine turned into frantically sniffing and looking around for anywhere but inside the pen to poop. She finally gave in and did the deed. I threw her a loving party and gave her like 5 treats and told her what an amazing dog she is. Now she's grokked it and we're getting pretty consistent potty breaks with an occasional accident in the house instead of the inverse. Pee within the first minute of being at her spot, Poops take a bit longer but not what feels like forever/never.

Rexxed posted:

You've really got to be more stubborn than your dog, which can be difficult. Ten minutes is probably not long enough. If you go back inside you can leash her to you (put the leash on your belt or something) so that she won't be able to sneak away and pee. The main thing is to get her going outside at any cost (sanity, time) and then give her lots of praise for going without being scary about it. Also once she's gone outside you can bring her back to the area she went to help her find it again. It can be scary sometimes for dogs to go in a new place, they'd rather go in the house where they're used to going and are comfortable.

Thanks, this was the sanity check I needed!

negativeneil fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Mar 11, 2024

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Pickwick (18 mo old golden retriever) has alot of lighter hair sticking out from under his coat on his thighs and shoulders:

It doesn't pull out easily like it usually would on our other double-coated dogs and it looks almost more like frayed guard hairs than undercoat? I won't say I brush him super frequently, but again brushing or a bath/brush at the groomers' doesn't really seem to remove these. Is this a normal thing with goldens or should I be supplementing him with something for his coat? He just gets Purina ProPlan chicken and rice adult food, which I'm not sure is like, the best dog food ever-if there's a different dry food I should try I'm open to that too.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Has he lost his puppy coat?

MF_James
May 8, 2008
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INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Gangringo posted:

Today Umbra found out that the stripey cats are spicy. Her first instinct after getting sprayed by a skunk was to run inside and rub her face against every surface she could find in the house. Had to rush her to a pet supply place that has a dog wash for a skunk bath. Now I have the house ventilating heavily while I hose down the entire house in an enzyme cleaner.

It's a good thing she's pretty.

Yup, that's exactly what they'll do.

My parents have had multiple dogs get skunked multiple times, their current dog immediately ran inside (this is skunkening #2 for her), under a bed and rubbed her face on the rug until we pulled her out; threw the rug out immediately, the dog stayed but was definitely bathed repeatedly and her head smelled like skunk until the following spring. Thankfully my brother and I were over there this time because my parents probably couldn't have pulled her out from under the bed themselves.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
So did the whole respiratory scare at the end of last year just kind of fizzle out or become endemic? I think I remember reading something about how it turned out to just be a combination of a few things? But I’ve not seen anything about it in the last few months.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


HootTheOwl posted:

Has he lost his puppy coat?
I think so? He had a much nicer coat till a few months ago when it went kinda frizzy

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Tayter Swift posted:

So did the whole respiratory scare at the end of last year just kind of fizzle out or become endemic? I think I remember reading something about how it turned out to just be a combination of a few things? But I’ve not seen anything about it in the last few months.

Been asking the same thing. My vet (the lead vet, tons of exp, really good) basically said it was a few other common respiratory things they deal with but all at once. I would love to hear something more scientific, but Pochi has been going to training classes with us pretty much since it started, and day training once a week, and we haven't heard of any dogs there getting it, so...not sure.

i own every Bionicle
Oct 23, 2005

cstm ttle? kthxbye
I will post a bigger update soon but it’s been three months plus 1 week that I’ve had Newton.

He has started coming into work with me (I usually work from home but occasionally go into a makerspace) and just plops down on his bed, zero drama.



He had a great time at the dog park on the way home



Sadly, it’s not all roses.

He has turned to a life of crime.

Gangs



Theft

https://i.imgur.com/J31ptGl.mp4

Excavating with no permit

https://i.imgur.com/K0bNAMQ.mp4

And speeding

https://i.imgur.com/3iywaUz.mp4

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
ZOOMIES! :3:

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TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
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Oh, he looks so happy! Thank you for this important update :kimchi:

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