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Those reflect different philosophies in the expected amount of control/preparedness you have going into being thrown. Secondarily, reflect differences in ruleset and training. The fetal position offers you maximal head protection in the case of being caught off guard by a big throw. Of course as you practice, you can figure out the timing of throws more and unfold halfway through and at least slap to diffuse the throw momentum a bit. Modern shuaijiao is strictly a sport, one where you get scored on and reset to standing as soon as you get thrown, no matter how gracefully you exit the throw. Energy put into controlling how you fall or roll out of a throw that's already going to score is potentially wasted from getting up and going right back into trying to win the round. This only works if the throws don't hurt. Anyone who grapples can of course tell you that hitting a wrestling mat at speed can still hurt enough to affect your performance if not outright injure you. But I'm talking about the difference between having a mat vs the extra consequences of getting thrown on hard ground or floor. If that's your training environment, you obviously need to take much stronger precautions against meeting the ground at speed with less structural support.
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slidebite posted:Trained with our sparring team last night and we spent the first 20 minutes doing various full power kick drills up and down the floor with a partner holding the kicking bag. Took about a week for the bruise to come out The kick was a couple inches higher than the bruise. Hellblazer187 posted:I learned today that I'm very bad at kicking.
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Looking for a freestanding heavy bag for striking at home. Are there any specific things to look for in terms of features or materials, or conversely, brands to watch out for/avoid? (Practicing Wing Chun, if it matters)
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Morter posted:Looking for a freestanding heavy bag for striking at home. Are there any specific things to look for in terms of features or materials, or conversely, brands to watch out for/avoid? (Practicing Wing Chun, if it matters) If you’re doing Wing Chun, have you considered a wooden dummy with strike pads attached?
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Thirteen Orphans posted:If you’re doing Wing Chun, have you considered a wooden dummy with strike pads attached? Admittedly not but the main reason I want a standing bag is to practice my kicks. The stuff you do against the dummy is more to practice your hand technique, and your short range (leg/knee-kicking), but I imagine I'd get a lot of use with a standing bag to do my round and thrusting kicks.
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# ? Mar 18, 2024 20:33 |
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Morter posted:Admittedly not but the main reason I want a standing bag is to practice my kicks. The stuff you do against the dummy is more to practice your hand technique, and your short range (leg/knee-kicking), but I imagine I'd get a lot of use with a standing bag to do my round and thrusting kicks. Ah, I see. Then yeah a mook isn’t what you’re looking for.
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# ? Mar 18, 2024 20:37 |
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I've got one of these paired up with a ~100-120lb heavy bag https://everlast.ca/products/heavy-bag-stand It's "OK" - biggest issue I have with it is doing truly strong kicks, you can absolutely move that thing around even with 50lbs+ of weight on each corner in addition to the bag. So unless you can anchor it or put it up against a wall or that can absorb it and resist the movement, it's just going to happen. But for realistic home use without going to a massive gym size thing with a massive frame or bolted to the ground, it's a decent enough compromise. I don't use it every day by any stretch, but it does the job.
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# ? Mar 18, 2024 22:55 |
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I'd suggest you budget some extra for weight plates; sand bags will get shredded up over time
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# ? Mar 18, 2024 23:58 |
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Wear gloves with a heavy bag btw, you will gently caress your hands up.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 02:33 |
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slidebite posted:I've got one of these paired up with a ~100-120lb heavy bag The rare times I’ve tried this shape of bag frame, the front weight pins and the slanted supports kinda bothered me. They weren’t in the way of most kicks but definitely occupied some mental space for lower kicks. That’s if you use a banana bag, which imo you should for general kicking. Not as big a deal for punches on a regular bag. Sherbert Hoover posted:Wear gloves with a heavy bag btw, you will gently caress your hands up. The gloves will protect your knuckles and metacarpals. You need to wrap properly to prevent your wrist from rolling painfully on misaligned punches. Which will happen frequently early on.
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kimbo305 posted:The rare times I’ve tried this shape of bag frame, the front weight pins and the slanted supports kinda bothered me. They weren’t in the way of most kicks but definitely occupied some mental space for lower kicks. That’s if you use a banana bag, which imo you should for general kicking. Not as big a deal for punches on a regular bag. Pretty much the only hand techniques I'd do with a heavy bag are knife hand (board breaking techniques) which it works pretty well for, tbh. The biggest issue is that the bag is "round" where the boards are obviously going to be flat. I've actually been meaning to try and prop some sandbags on it to see if that helps more with movement.
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 14:43 |
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Has anyone used an elbow brace to practice compliance / catch wrestling / qin na joint attacks that are sudden and not controlled like in more coventional (safer) grappling? What I've always read about catch wrestling is that some of the techniques don't have much safety margin, and obviously benefit from be applied explosively. I always wondered how moves like that could be drilled safely to improve skill level. A lot of joint locks from Chinese martial arts seem to have a similar flavor, where best case scenario, you go with it and get thrown, and worst case, something pops. Been wondering if a hinged and angle-limited brace would offer sufficient insurance at the extreme range of motion to let some stuff like this be worked out somewhat more safely.
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 03:49 |
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Never seen anyone using a brace to intentionally train techniques in a manner that might explode your small joints.
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 22:32 |
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finally got a cheap heavy bag set up from christmas, but the drat thing still moves around with 200lbs in its base. it feels really good to wrap up and beat the everloving crap out of a bag again. I think I'd like to get back to classes once my conditioning comes back, does anyone have any suggestions for a gym that would cater to later classes than most? starting at like 8pm for muy thai or boxing, with a possibility of something more ground based a couple days a week in the norfolk/virginia beach area.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 23:09 |
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SeaGoatSupreme posted:finally got a cheap heavy bag set up from christmas, but the drat thing still moves around with 200lbs in its base. If the bag sits low enough, put an old tire at the base of it.
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 18:15 |
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sadly it's a standing heavy bag, so no tire shenanigans. I'm probably going to just dump water into it to fill all the space between the grains of sand and pray i stop knocking it over when i hook it
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# ? Apr 10, 2024 14:08 |
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SeaGoatSupreme posted:standing heavy bag those are gonna move around a lot no matter what especially if youre kicking them hard Imo use it more like a technical tool, like a double end bag, not power shots OctaMurk fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Apr 10, 2024 |
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A horse mat will help
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# ? Apr 10, 2024 14:35 |
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Punch a horse
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:46 |
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Or do what the other guy said and accept that it will be for technical work and not annihilating with ancient muay thai devastators
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# ? Apr 13, 2024 01:49 |
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Probably goes without saying, but if you can put the stand next to a wall, preferably with something to protect your baseboard, will help a lot. It'll still move though.
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I forgot where I was posting my Mongolian wrestling reporting to. Quoting here from the grappling thread:kimbo305 posted:Ok, effort post is here. Took a lot longer to edit these than I wanted. Part of it was switching over to Davinci Resolve, and part was not having a good workflow for clipping out the interesting bits and ordering them thematically.
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