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Denji just really wants to find someone who will be a good mother to Nayuta.
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goblin week posted:Do you think Power was a Power devil Other than Makima, she's the only devil or fiend I can recall who had a name (Power) different from their domain (Blood). Either that means something or the character had been named before the demonology was fully fleshed out.
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Also completely forgot the Violence Fiend had a name too -- Galgali, which is supposedly a reference to an alternative name for Thrones
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Nice, it belongs in the spooky month. Sadly that means the episode with Cosmo will air much later than HALLOWEEN
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Just re-read volume one and I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Yoshida is the Skin Devil. He's the one who said that the hitman brothers "could be any one of us". The creepy scene where he kills one of the two remaining brothers just off-screen could be read multiple ways, especially as that brother had just resolved to take revenge against the Skin Demon. The "You...!" immediately afterward was probably intended to read as him running into Yoshida, who had tracked him down, but there is no definitive indication that Yoshida even noticed the brothers in the nearby crowd (and why would he hunt them down by himself in a dangerous situation with multiple assassins?). I'd argue that the "You...!" can also be read as the brother running into the Skin Demon (as "Yoshida"), who'd heard him talking poo poo and decided to teach him a lesson. The "I guess a pro wouldn't puke" comment could either be Yoshida believing the lone surviving brother, Yoshida deciding to let him off the hook (unlikely, given the vibe he was giving off), or the Skin Devil letting him know that he's now beneath his notice. Currently, Yoshida represents an organization that claims to have an interest in Denji "living a peaceful life" and "not changing into the Chainsaw Man." Right now we know of one 'organization' with similar goals, and it's Devils. The counterargument would be that Yoshida was shown using the Octopus Devil after that, but perhaps it's possible that the Skin Devil is able to make use of pacts in human form, or could imitate living humans (in contrast to the brothers who could only imitate corpses) and that was the real Yoshida at that point in the story. usenet celeb 1992 fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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Only way we know of so far for a human to get there is for someone to contract with the Hell Devil and sacrifice themselves. Side note to that, Makima sent Chainsaw to Hell in the last couple volumes of Part 1, where he slaughtered a ton of devils. Doesn't that mean they were then reborn on Earth? I'm not sure anyone in the series has outright said so, but the devil situation does seem a bit more out of hand than in Part 1, even accounting for how decimated the Public Safety devil hunters are. Just saying it's kind of funny that Chainsaw Man's current celebrity status is due in part to a situation he helped create. usenet celeb 1992 fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Sep 28, 2022 |
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Sep 28, 2022 22:03
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I'm liking the perspective shift in Part 2 and I'm pretty sure it's going to be used to explore all of the hanging questions, just from a perspective outside Denji's which might throw things into a slightly different light. Fujimoto's one-shots demonstrate quite clearly his recurring interest in issues of perception so I'm interested to see if something similar plays out in a longer form like this.
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Angel Devil outright states that even if devils don't remember the exact circumstances of their deaths, they all remembered the last thing they heard: the sound of chainsaws revving. Wouldn't be too hard for the smarter devils to put it together.
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Oct 25, 2022 20:25
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The true secret of the Cosmos Devil is that there is no 'matter'. It's devils. No quarks, no baryons. It's devils all the way down. Everything is devils. Everything is Halloween. Halloween. Halloween.
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Flavahbeast posted:
The Conspiracy Devil was once pretty weak and niche, but now...
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Oxxidation posted:her agility at least is all-natural, unless she somehow retained her contract after quitting Kobeni, Kishibe and Quanxi all have exceptional, even supernatural, physical abilities that have never been explicitly revealed to be related to devil contracts. In fact the only thing we know about them with respect to deviltry is that Quanxi is a hybrid like Chainsaw/Katana, which may (or may not) raise questions about the other two.
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A few years back Patton Oswalt had a pretty good routine about hearing the phrase "I'm going to fill you up with my goof juice" in a porn film. When he performed it live, he delivered it in a pitch-perfect, horrifying pervert-clown voice. For the recorded CD version, he reverted to using his standard "Southern dumb guy" voice. For whatever reason, I always heard the Future Devil's voice as that former voice; it's probably the perpetual "DOO HOO HOO HOOO" expression on his face that did it. Plus I always thought the Future Devil's body language (in the manga) when Aki stuck his face in his stomach was rather sexual, but maybe that's just me. "Future Devil as pervert voyeur" really seems like it would have been the best angle to take on the character. But like the Oswalt routine, it ended up with a safer, and more generically wacky, delivery that could only disappoint, and the body language was just goofy flailing. Good episode still!
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Oxxidation posted:wouldn't be surprised if he just grabbed an obscure directory from somewhere and ran down the list Except for the one name he deliberately chose to hide in the middle of the list, of course. (I know you know; just bringing it up for the new first time readers who may have missed it at first like I did)
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I think there are a lot of potential ways to read Makima's smoking, and if nothing else, Fujimoto is someone who obviously gives a lot of thought to symbolism so any of them, all of them, or none of them could be correct. One is the idea that they are pleasurable but self-destructive. One of the many pursuits the devil hunters indulge in as relief valves from the daily terror and mortal threats associated with their job. Aki already knows from the Curse Devil that he's going to die within two years, so why would he care about the cumulative threat of lung cancer 10+ years down the road? Himeno playfully "saves" him from this threat early in their association, but at the time she probably didn't appreciate the depth of his self-destructive obsession. Under this view, maybe Makima realizes (or is at least presaging) her own self-destruction in pursuit of her own satisfaction. Another aspect is the way it can be used to convey an intimate interpersonal connection. The weird Japanese thing about "indirect kisses" is relevant here, but it's not necessarily a romantic intimacy. Aki shares the same habit (even the same brand) as Himeno, and that connection even manages to save him through her influence on a devil. Under this view, Makima may be trying, in her own broken way, to connect with humans now that she's gotten everything she thinks she wanted (as well as wanting to indulge in a "drat I'm good" flex like she may have seen in the movies). Nicotine and substance addiction can also be associated with loss of control, so maybe she feels like she can indulge in this little bit of weakness now that she's "won".
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Steve Yun posted:
Maybe it's something that's in the same general realm of her other known abilities to borrow other people's contracts/abilities as well as to exchange any mortal wounds inflicted on her with other people; maybe she was able to 'borrow' the head-cutting properties of the sword and use it up in the process. Or she just commanded them heads to pop off.
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Steve Yun posted:
Well I mean we all saw what happened the last time he opened someone else's apartment door Also, everyone's assuming Nayuta set the rules because of who she is. Denji never said that!
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I always figured it was the latter, that after his big determined build-up to revenge against the Gun Devil, he dies pointlessly in 0.1 seconds along with 1,000 other schmucks. And then goes on to his second and final death trying to kill his friend while retreating into the only other thing that meant anything to him, the childhood that was taken from him. Both, in their own way, the "worst possible death" for him, and he gets to experience them both. The Future Devil, pervert voyeur that he is, is over the moon.
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Shrinking from absolutely everything (until it's knife time) will probably give that impression.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:What exactly is Denji's relationship with Public Safety at this point? He doesn't seem to work for them, but they presumably pay him. The Chainsaw Man escapades seem to be loosely approved, as long as he doesn't reveal himself, but outside of that, it's not clear if they could call on him to do anything or have authority over him anymore. If he turns into Chainsaw Man twice a year, he's good. He turns into Chainsaw Man no times at all, he's even better. Yoshida's group wants to keep Chainsaw Man off the streets so they pay him a monthly fee NOT to turn into Chainsaw Man.
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Yeah, I guess it's ambiguous due to wording/translation issues but I would assume that the determinant is where the current manifestation incarnated rather than where it dies. It doesn't matter if you die on Earth or in Hell, if you incarnated on Earth you will reincarnate in Hell and vice versa.
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It's not a given that the Falling Devil actually died to get to Earth. The Hell Devil is capable of direct transport from Earth to Hell, the doors may be two-way and they seem to be in cahoots here anyway. Or there's an Earth Devil. Das Boo posted:I genuinely love that it's always possible you're simultaneously overthinking and underthinking any single element of this story. yeah, this edit:\/\/\/\/ yeah I misread some of the earlier conversation as being people thought the Falling Devil had died to get here, my bad usenet celeb 1992 fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Mar 18, 2023 |
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A primal fear is allowed to have hobbies.
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You know, I was expecting him to solve that problem by lashing out with his chains, but that just proves I don't have anything close to Denji's Nobel-winning brain.
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ImpAtom posted:But that is proof he is best??? Denji's mind is in a perfect state of Being. He isn't interested in knowing what he can do and pays no heed to what he can't do. Ergo, he can do anything.
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It's the Dying to a Sick Chaincycle-Wheelie Demon We can't honestly say it's something we wouldn't fear, even if it would be sick as all hell
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Justin_Brett posted:I hope she doesn't think her cooking is bad now The Falling Yelp Rating Devil
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It is interesting how all three of the horsemen we've seen so far have connections with humans that go beyond killing/eating and are more social in nature (control, ownership, and how would you describe it for Famine -- coercion maybe?), which if all goes well could lead to something akin to sympathy (and if it gets twisted into going wrong, you get Makima), so I guess it makes sense that they would be the devils most vested in heading off the apocalypse. I'm very interested in seeing how this also all ties into the earlier mentions of parasocial relationships, Chainsaw Man fandom, and other aspects of human interrelationships that Fujimoto explored so adeptly in the recent one-shots.
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They were never interested in starting any apocalypses, Nostradamus just saw them showing up as it was happening and blamed them for it. Dick. They don't even have a horse. edit: They've only mentioned Nostradamus so far, right? Maybe in this universe that's where it came from? Chainsaw Man ate the Bible Devil? edit2: oh wait they did show the Gun Devil wrecking a church in Vol. 1, but I guess no guarantees about whether it matches the Christianity we know usenet celeb 1992 fucked around with this message at 22:26 on May 30, 2023 |
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Sure, but who isn't a huge dumbass in this series?
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Yoshida's threats are pretty toothless considering Public Safety was virtually wiped out by the end of the Makima incident, and considering what both Denji and Nayuta are capable of. I'd almost suspect him of working for another party and trying to foment Denji's distrust in Public Safety (and therefore deprive them of one of their few remaining competent devil hunters), but he still seems genuinely puzzled after Denji leaves so that doesn't quite make sense either. In the end I'm satisfied if it's simply that Yoshida is as big a stupid idiot as everyone else.
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Cute girl wouldn't work, Nayuta saw right through the last one who had ulterior motives. Though it probably wouldn't be hard to find someone smoother than Asa. Since Public Safety seems to consist of Yoshida plus one other random doofus, this is probably the best last-ditch plan they could come up with to try to confound Nostradamus' predicted apocalypse.
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For their part, Devils probably think humans are pretty stupid for wrecking the environment they need to perpetuate the species. Something something extended metaphor for the tragedy of the commons, and Denji is the hero because he has extremely clear, and modest, goals for what he wants out of life and will be satisfied with no more than that.
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Still pretty modest compared to the harms a billionaire class can inflict. And the whole "no ethical consumption under capitalism" discourse does take on interesting dimensions when you're talking about someone who can consume entire concepts.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:That means the plan is working Yeah honestly, if Yoshida's whole plan was exactly as he described it -- to disincentivize Denji from the entire concept of being Chainsaw Man, Celebrity -- we should consider that he's been more wildly successful than we previously gave him credit for
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You can't just write off an entire large country when there are women in it who might sleep with you.
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Future Devil went into protective custody at Public Safety after Chainsaw Man ate his brother, the Progress Devil
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ImpAtom posted:.. oh poo poo, does the Fire Devil have the power to grant desires because of the whole Prometheus/creation angle? Good call, it can also be fire as an agent of (violent) change, like ecological succession
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If nothing else, she's shown pretty good reflexes so far. I wouldn't expect a middling devil hunter to be able to dodge such a powerful devil's attack at such short range.
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The Fart Contest That Saved the World
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Poor Meowy shares a cramped apartment with six rowdy huskies. Any cat that can tolerate a situation like that can slaughter an entire army.
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