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 A Little Lily Princess is a visual novel published by Hanako Games in 2016 under their Hanabira line, simply meaning that it was written outside the company. Hanako's most notable title is probably Long Live the Queen, which is somewhat similar to LLP, and has an excellent LP by MegaZeroX that you can read on the archives here. (There may even be a couple of guest updates at the end by yours truly  ).A Little Lily Princess is based off of the Frances Hodgson Burnett novel, A Little Princess, published in 1905 and available to download for free from Project Gutenburg. Like in the novel, we will follow Sara Crewe, the daughter of a widowed English officer raised in India, as she is sent to a London boarding school in order to be educated and molded into a Proper Young Lady. The story has been adapted many times over-- into several movies (including one in which Sara is played by Shirley Temple), television series, and plays, as well as an anime titled Princess Sarah, which I've heard is quite good. The game follows the plot of the novel closely, with some lines and narration being taken from it verbatim, so peruse the novel and its adaptations with caution, as spoilers will abound. A Little Princess is Burnett's second most popular work, losing out only to The Secret Garden. As you may have guessed from the title of the thread and the addition of a certain word into the title of the game itself, LLP takes this children's novel set in the late 19th century and puts a sapphic twist on it. Why are you doing this LP? Previously I had been doing an LP of Legal Dungeon, which is a fine game and all, but also unrelentingly dark and miserable. It's a game about corrupt police, incompetent leadership, and everyone who should be looking out for the greater good being instead entirely focused on their own self-interest. In short, it was a game that loving sucked to be spending so much time on right now. LPs should make both the person creating it and the people reading it happy. And you know what makes me happy? Anime lesbians. So much of my Steam library is at least somewhat related to anime lesbians, guys, it's not even funny. It's just great. I interpret that comment as creepy, and will make several broad assumptions about you because of it! I really wish you wouldn't, but you already have, and for some of you nothing I can say will ever convince you that the conclusions you have jumped to based off of one sentence were incorrect. It's easy to forget when posting something on the internet that the people who will be reading it know essentially nothing about you. So, here's some context, for those who actually care about it: I'm a lesbian woman in my early twenties. I am very enthusiastic about queer, especially wlw, representation in media; and of that double especially representation that presents queer people as leading complicated and nuanced lives, and not just as tragic young adults whose entire life revolves around their gayness and how sad that is for them. I'm also weaboo casul garbage who loves anime art and visual novels, and is a big fan of Hanako Games in particular. I started this LP because this game is cute and innocent and makes me happy. Like most kids' stories, everything works out in the end. As someone dealing with chronic depression on top of the world being a steaming pile of poo poo right now, it's nice to have that. Uh...okay. How does gameplay work? As mentioned previously, LLP is superficially similar to Long Live the Queen. The story is divided into weeks, and we have the option to choose what our protagonist does with her time each week, which will affect her stats. Unlike in LLTQ, however, the stats in LLP don't really do much. This is much more of a straight visual novel than LLTQ-- the only choices we make that actually affect the story are which of the six characters we want to spend time with, thus advancing their route. Certain scenes are gated behind stat requirements, but other than that, they're just meaningless numbers. While LLP is certainly a much simpler game than LLTQ, it's extremely well written and tells a compelling, emotional story that explores complex relationships, both romantic and platonic. The art is adorably amazing as well. The thread will be voting on what Sara does each week, as well as who we spend our time with. Unless something happens, we will be completing every route in this LP. Wait, 'routes'? This is a game about kids, right? There's nothing skeevy, is there? There is not. LLP has six routes, and of those four have some amount of romance. This romance is of the hugging and holding hands variety, with like one kiss. There is no sexual content whatsoever-- it's just queer little girls being little girls, unfortunately during a time in which the only goal of a woman's life was to marry a man and have babies. The only content that reaches a PG rating has to do with Victorian society being gross and awful, not the relationships of the characters. No spoilers, please. Updates: Week 1 Jessie #1 + Week 2 Lavinia #1 + Week 3 Ermengarde #1 + Week 4 Ermengarde #2 + Week 5 Lavinia #2 + Week 6 Jessie #2 + Week 7 Jessie #3 + Week 8 Mariette #1 + Week 9 Ermengarde #3 + Week 10 Jessie #4 + Week 11 Ermengarde #4 + Week 12 Ermengarde #5 + Week 13 Ermengarde #6 + Week 14 Jessie #5 + Week 15 Ermengarde #7 + Week 16 Lavinia #3 + Week 17 Becky #1 + Week 18 Bonuses: The Lady's Maid The Scullery Maid yamiaainferno fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Mar 16, 2022 |
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 Our title screen. All pretty self-explanitory. "Extras" allows us to view the image gallery, track list, and track our achievements. Let's hit start game.   The morning sun was not enough to lift the chill from the stony streets, and the mist off the river blended with the smoke of countless chimneys to form a thick yellow fog. In such weather, the gaslamps burned night and day, flickering like stars to guide the horse-drawn 'ships’ to their destinations. But the ship that had carried her across the ocean was now a thing of the past. Here, then, was Sara's new home. It was a big, dull, brick house, exactly like all the others in its row, except that on the front door there shone a brass plate which was engraved in black letters: Being adapted from a novel, there is narration. I'll use that lily icon (which appears often in the UI) to represent it.   Come, come, hurry up. We have a new pupil who will be joining us, starting today. Her name is Sara Crewe, and she is only recently arrived in England, so you must all make her feel welcome. How do you do? The room filled with a chorus of gently murmured greetings. Sara Crewe, for that was her name, looked out upon a garden of strangers. Every face was turned to her, polite and attentive and perfectly foreign. She felt more lost than she had ever been at sea. Sara, dear, as you can see we have pupils here of all levels, but these three are particularly near your age.  Charmed.  Ah?  We’re very pleased to meet you.Our classmates here are three of our six route options, naturally. After all, they have sprites, which means they must be important.   ...nor any other age. Sara's life before that point had been not isolated, but sheltered. Her mother had died when she was born, leaving Sara to be raised by the young, handsome father who was the only relation she had ever known. Some fathers had little time for their children, but Sara and her Papa had always been quite close, reading books and playing games together every day. He treated her as a little confidant, sharing his thoughts with her as if she were his peer and not a very young girl, and listened solemnly to the advice she gave in return, though he didn't always follow it. Sara had never felt lonely, but it must be said that she had very little experience in making new friends.Aw. I admit, I'm a sucker for this type of child-guardian relationship. I love it when kids are taken seriously.  Now, Sara, take your seat. Your father has informed me how very much you enjoy your studies, and I expect you to be a credit to this establishment. I am not certain how to become a 'credit’, but — I do wish to learn. This statement was met with muffled giggles. Confused, Sara looked back at Miss Minchin for guidance. Take your seat, I said. (But which seat is mine?) Concerned that she would look disobedient if she hesitated further, she slid into the nearest empty place. No one objected, and she let out a sigh of relief. Nearby, two girls turned to whisper to each other.  Hush! And her eyes are such a queer colour. A funny-looking child, to be sure.'Queer' is used here in its traditional meaning of 'strange'-- though the modern meaning certainly applies to Sara as well.  That said, I'm not entirely sure what's meant to be strange about Sara's perfectly ordinary green eyes. I mean, Lavinia, Jessie has green eyes too. Maybe it's odd in combination with her hair color? Who knows. She makes you want to look at her again, to see what it is. And she has tremendously long eyelashes. Only you would notice such a thing! Kindly pay attention to your lessons?  Yes, Miss Minchin!Here is where, if we were playing the game normally, we would choose Sara's activities for the week. We'll be skipping that for now, though, and come back to it at the end of the update.  Sara was what was known as a parlour boarder. Where other girls were quartered in standard-issue single rooms, she had a large bedroom, uniquely decorated, and a separate sitting room with a comfortable sofa. (My Papa has filled them with beautiful things. Books, velvet cushions, lace dresses, a porcelain tea set... hats with great feathers that bob on them, even a tiger rug to remind me of India... It looks like a room that would belong to the daughter of a rajah — an Indian princess.) (I only wish that this room also contained my Papa.) (Perhaps it does. He gave me all of these things, and whenever I touch them, I can imagine that he is with me. And when I read his farewell letter, I can hear his voice.)Papa's Letter posted:My dear Little Missus,  (I am happiest with just Emily, and happier because I was with you when I met her.) Emily, of course, was the name of a doll, a very special doll that Sara had discovered when her Papa took her to visit the premier toyshops of London. She was a large doll, but not too large to carry about easily; she had naturally curling golden-brown hair, which hung like a mantle about her, and her eyes were a deep, clear, grey-blue, with soft, thick eyelashes which were real eyelashes and not mere painted lines. At Sara's insistence, she had been given a wardrobe every bit as grand as Sara's own, with frocks and coats and nightgowns and beautiful lace- trimmed underthings. She even had her own tiny lady's handkerchief and her own cradle-bed, at the foot of Sara's.Sara is clearly an extremely spoiled little girl, but seems to have turned out okay in spite of it. Not sure how often that happens in real life, but it's a common trope in media, especially of the era in which the novel was set and written.  My Papa is on the sea now, Emily. We must be very great friends to each other — intimate friends — and tell each other things. Look at me, Emily? You have the nicest eyes I ever saw — but I wish you could speak. She brushed Emily's hair fondly, settling her in pride of place. (There are so many girls in this school. I have never seen so many children in one place before. I am afraid I shall not even remember all of their names.) (I have always known that someday I would be required to go away, to leave my home and my Papa and come to England to be educated. I must do my duty, even if I do not like it.) (I dare say soldiers, even brave ones, don't really like going into battle, but they must do it anyway, and not cry and fuss. So must I. But oh, it is so lonely!) She could not know, of course, how her quiet sorrow might be misinterpreted by others. Miss Minchin, the proprietor, had seen the lavish preparations for Sara’s pretty little room and concluded that here was a child who had always been given her own way at the expense of others. Such a spoiled little girl might be expected to kick and scream and set the whole house into an uproar, when abandoned by her only parent. That she did not suggested to Miss Minchin that Sara cared nothing at all for her Papa, but only for her dresses and toys. Such was not a thought that inspired sympathy in her heart for the newcomer.I'm sure this will cause no problems and never come up again.  Sara was not a girl easily given to fear or startlement, but she had a healthy share of curiosity, and went at once to see what it was. Hello there. Who might you be? ...’m Lottie. Her words were hard to make out through the fingers she had shoved into her mouth. Lottie? The fingers were withdrawn and wiped dry among the frills of her skirt. Lottie Leigh. Sara smiled. Here, then, was a chance — to meet just one person at a time, instead of a crowd of strangers. Well then, I am Sara Crewe, and know we are properly introduced.This art of Lottie really is just  , though it does make her look more like an infant than a toddler. She is the fourth of our six possible routes. LLP is nice in that not all the routes are romantic, exploring a variety of relationships. Was there something you wanted? Can I — Might I — May I look at your doll? Of course you may. Come and visit me in my room, and we can have tea together. My Papa left me a beautiful tea set, with lilies painted on it. Emily has her own service as well, sized for her hand, because she is too small to hold one of my cups. I want to see! Come inside, then, and I will introduce you to Emily. And that was Sara's first week of classes at Miss Minchin's Select Seminary for Young Ladies.Alrighty, it's voting time. We have to choose what Sara does this week, and then who she will spend time with.   Read a Book:  Practice Dance:  Play with Toys:  Go for Walk:  Write in Diary:  Tea Party:  This system is a little strange and convoluted, but not too bad once you manage to wrap your head around it. To avoid things getting out of hand, everyone will be getting three votes for activities. You can cast them each for a separate activity, all for one, or split them between two as you wish. I will be choosing activities as proportionally as I can manage. So if 60% of the votes were for a tea party, 20% for walking, and 20% for dancing we would spend 3 days having tea parties, one day walking, and one day dancing. I'll choose the best order possible to maximize stat gain, prioritizing unlocking scenes.  Here is what our choices are currently (ignore the stats). Jessie's first scene has no requirements, so we can play it no matter what. Lottie's, meanwhile, requires that Sara have 5 faith. Lavinia's scene isn't available until next week, but will require 3 grace when we get there. Cast one vote for who you want to spend time with. The character with the highest number of votes whose requirements have been met will win. Note that you can also vote to spend time with no one, if you're a hermit like that. See you guys next time! yamiaainferno fucked around with this message at 10:44 on Jul 17, 2020 |
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Jul 17, 2020 09:05
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This looks incredibly cute! Read a Book x3, and let's hang with Jessie.
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Jul 17, 2020 09:50
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Neat, I still haven't gotten around to installing this myself.  Tea party, tea party, tea party Jessie Tea parties are very important to have a jolly gay time. The center of the silhouettes almost looked like she was holding a knife for a second. But... what is the age difference between Sara and Lottie?
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Jul 17, 2020 09:51
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Poil posted:But... what is the age difference between Sara and Lottie? Lottie is said to be four in the book and that's probably still about right. Five at the oldest. Sara, meanwhile, is said to be seven in the book (though tall and mature-seeming for her age, I believe the word used was "solemn"), but from what I can tell has been aged up to 10-ish in the game. Not all the routes are romantic, and Lottie's certainly isn't, if that was your concern.
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Jul 17, 2020 10:02
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Thanks. If you have any experience at all with anything anime you know to be cautious.
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Poil posted:Thanks. If you have any experience at all with anything anime you know to be cautious. Yeah, fair enough. I went ahead and edited some clarification into the post to avoid future confusion.
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Jul 17, 2020 10:47
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I'll go with read a book, write in diary, and practice dance. Oh, and I think the game is steering us to play with Jessie first.
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Miss Minchin's Select Seminary for Young Ladies. Does seminary mean something different in British English? AFAIK, Seminary is Preist School, which doesn't seem like this school
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Think it's more like a female seminary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_seminary. Particularly the section about New England schools, "The seminaries managed to inculcate manners, decorum, discipline, and domesticity" sounds very much like Miss Minchin's.
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Poil posted:Neat, I still haven't gotten around to installing this myself. +1
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This is pretty adorable. Do you mind expanding a bit on how resources are gained in terms of "gain this, or this, or this"? Specifically, it seems like a roll of the dice to actually gain any Patience. Or is it that you get to choose what rewards you seek? As for my vote, I second:
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Mraagvpeine posted:I'll go with read a book, write in diary, and practice dance. I agree with this though I really hope, if there's romance paths, that they age her up. She's, um, seven, in the beginning of the novel. I think like ten at the end?
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Write in diaryx3. Let's go with Lottie if we somehow manage to get enough Belief to get her week one. ...I've been following the game maker for years, so I've already played this one. I'll try to refrain from saying anything, even if a lot of the story can be spoiled just by reading the actual novel. Crepuscule Adepte fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jul 21, 2020 |
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I'm going to go ahead and call voting closed for now so that I can hopefully get the next update out tomorrow. I took screenshots and couple of days ago assuming no more would come in, and well.  It's a pleasant surprise that the thread has been called up from the depths of the second page a couple of times now, and it's really not too much trouble since Jessie's near-domination means the only changes are to our classes and stat gains, but I'd still rather not redo them again.Astrofig posted:I really hope, if there's romance paths, that they age her up. She's, um, seven, in the beginning of the novel. I think like ten at the end? starbucks hermit posted:Do you mind expanding a bit on how resources are gained in terms of "gain this, or this, or this"? Specifically, it seems like a roll of the dice to actually gain any Patience. Or is it that you get to choose what rewards you seek?
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Hello, and welcome back to A Little Lily Princess. I did a pretty poor job of explaining the mechanics of activities and stats last update, so I'll cover the process in some detail here. Future updates will be much more brief. Here's our schedule for the week. Strategically, you always want to put any activities that have the possibility of multipliers at the end of the week in order to maximize stat gain. Here, everything but dance will always give us flat increases, so it's easy enough to plan. The game will randomly choose between the three possible outcomes for each activity, going in the order chosen.      This precious little chibi of Sara points to the outcome rolled, and our results will be displayed on the side broken down by day. I won't clog the thread with these every week-- more than likely I'll just post the schedule and the final results, but they deserve to be seen once, at least.  Here's our final icons converted to stats. No huge gains in anything, but we're almost halfway in 3/7 of our stats after just one week. Despite the random assignment mechanic, the low cap (10) makes it a forgiving system. In my first playthrough I remember maxing everything without really trying. Detailed explanation over, we can move on to our scene. The thread overwhelmingly chose Jessie. Just in case that was motivated out of fear, I want to assure everyone that I will never skip a scene if I can help it.  Sara rose to her feet at once. You are very welcome. Please, come inside.The game uses small icons for characters who are speaking from "off-screen", so to speak, and when there's special art on display that the full sprites would cover. Alas, these icons are simply the full-size sprites fanangled into icons with some clever use of UI, and so are not in the games files. I still had to make my own.   I know we have been introduced, but I wished to make your acquaintance more personally. And without Lavvie listening in. Lavinia? I thought that you and she were the best of friends. Of course we are! I adore her. She's so... classic. So elegant and focused, I admire her very much. However, sometimes it is nicer to do things for oneself... Are those real silk stockings you're wearing? Sara blinked, caught unawares by this change of topic. Yes. I have several pairs. My Papa took me to many shops while he was in London.That was...quite an abrupt subject change, but it seems Sara's too polite to comment on it.  Sara sat down in her comfortable armchair, lifting the hem of her skirt slightly so that the floral embroidery over her ankle was visible. What little feet you have! I never saw such little feet. Are they small? She raised her leg a bit, pointing her toes and moving her foot this way and that. They seem the same size as they have always been, even though I know they must have been smaller when I was younger. I am sure that Lottie's feet are smaller than mine. And Emily’s, of course, are the smallest of all. Emily? Emily is the doll that my Papa bought to be my companion. Emily, this is Jessie Abbot, my new friend. The older girl dropped a beautiful curtsey, then laughed. Oh, she has silk stockings too! Stockings for such teeny-tiny feet, how cute! But you do have small feet for your height, Sara, I'm sure you do. Look at mine. Jessie pressed her foot up alongside Sara's for comparison. I just don't know whether larger or smaller feet are better. For dancing, I mean. If you dance with a partner, small feet would be better to avoid being stepped on. And they look very stylish in slippers. Slippers are cuter if they are smaller.Everything is cuter if smaller. It's just  . But larger feet might be better for holding positions and standing on your toes. Small feet may not be as strong. Your feet have a good shape, though. They arch well. They're very pretty. Can feet be pretty?Don't ask that on the internet, Sara. For your own sake.  She has dimples and round, rose-coloured cheeks, pale blue eyes, and long curling hair the colour of gold, and everyone said those things were very pretty. No one ever spoke of her feet. I suppose, if feet can be pretty, then perhaps I do have pretty feet. I know the rest of me is not. My hair is too black and straight and short, I am too thin, and my eyes are a strange colour. You do not have the same kind of beauty that dolls are made of, but that doesn’t mean that you aren't pretty. I think you are quite interesting to look at. Sara did not wish to contradict her new friend, who had no reason to lie, but her inner conviction that she was an ugly little girl could not be so easily dispelled.I'm still confused about green eyes being considered strange. I also thank no one for correcting me last update and saying that Jessie's eyes are probably more blue than green, though definitely an in-between shade. I usually have the blue light filter turned on when I'm working at my computer, and it distorts the colors a bit.  I don't know. I suppose we can find out.Aw.    Girls? Are you ready? Form up into a line behind Lavinia. Sara, dear, it is our custom to walk to and from church every Sunday, when the weather permits. That allows the horses a day of rest, and ensures that students receive regular exercise. It is important to look your best when we are walking out among the public. We want our school to always leave a good impression. You should follow Lavinia's cues, she will show you what to do. Lavinia is always a model student. As if hearing her name, Lavinia smiled and tilted her head. You could learn a great deal from Lavinia, dear. And as her father is also posted to India, the two of you should have much in common. I'm sure you will make close friends. Now, go and stand in line behind her. Sara made her way to the front of the line, where Jessie and Lavinia stood close together. Miss Minchin told me to stand behind you. She said you were a 'model' — Oh, very well then. But that's my place! You wouldn't want to disobey Miss Minchin, would you? No... We have to show our new girl how to behave herself in church. She may never have seen one before! ... Sara thought it wisest to remain silent.Yikes, Lavinia. Yikes.  Moving on, here is where we would select our activities for the week. We'll be skipping it once more, in favor of voting for both those and who we spend the weekend with at once.  Sara? Sara dear?  Bonjour, mademoiselle. Miss Minchin hissed through her teeth, and the young woman in the maid's uniform fell silent. Sara, before he left your father arranged for a maid to be employed especially for your needs. She has just arrived — I believe she is from France. Yes... Her name is Mariette, and she will be living in your rooms, helping you with your clothing in the morning, and anything else you require. Please use her as your liaison with the staff. If you have need of food, send your maid rather than speaking to Cook directly. And don't let her fool you. She does speak the Queen’s tongue. She swept out of the room, leaving the maid and her new little mistress blinking at each other in confusion. Bonjour, Mariette. Je m'appelle Sara. Comment allez-vous? Hello, Mariette. My name is Sara. How are you?Mariette here is our fifth route, another platonic option. There is, as you can see, going to be some French-speaking involved. Luckily enough I happen to know basic French, having taken classes on it in both high school and college. I'll go ahead and translate anything that I think is worth it, or that's longer than a couple of words, for the sake of the thread, indicated by the emote, as above. Oh! What did he say? That no other little girl is as solemn as you, and that you would make me smile. But why would being solemn make someone smile? Ah, it is your — je ne sais quoi. It is you. Now, why don't you show me around your rooms?Voting time, everyone. Options for activities remain the same, so please reference the previous update or the post under the OP, then cast your three votes. Our current options for the weekend are:  Jessie's scene will require +1 Belief, Lottie's +3 Belief, and Lavinia's +1 Grace. Mariette's has no requirements, so if nothing else our maid will hang out with us. See you guys next time! yamiaainferno fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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yamiaainferno posted:
Are those the right pictures? Both of those lines sound more like Miss Minchin talking about Mariette.
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Nidoking posted:Are those the right pictures? Both of those lines sound more like Miss Minchin talking about Mariette.  Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Our very own French maid and she already annoyed the headmistress. Sweet. Practice dance, dance, Lavinia seems interesting to know more about. It's nice of the game not to dump too many characters on us at the same time.
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Poil posted:Our very own French maid and she already annoyed the headmistress. Sweet. 
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Yeah, Dance, dance, diary seems like a good combo for this week. ...I will also vote for Lavinia. So basically, same, yes.
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I'm curious whether Lavinia is a bit arrogant or if she just gets overly excited when she is praised. Hoping for the latter and that the main character unintentionally triggers it.
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Oh, this is very cute! I think Sara should strive to be a very cultured young lady, so she should dance, write and read. And she needs to get to know Lavinia.
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Welcome back to LLP, everyone. The game where I find out that I don't know poo poo about eye color rarities.  Our schedule and results for Week 2. We're already at least halfway on every stat other than Knowledge and Belief. Once we max everything out, I'll just skip the activity voting all together. It's worth noting, briefly, that in this case we had a tie between walking or reading for our fifth activity-- such ties will be resolved by a coin flip. Moving on to the weekend, it was a lot closer this time, but Lavinia won out in the end.  It is Sara Crewe. May I come in? You may enter. It was a rather small court, consisting as it did of only one loyal follower, Jessie Abbot — but Lavinia's posture suggested no doubts about her right to rule. Hello, Lavinia. May I — I beg your pardon? Your pardon? That is not begging. Jessie tittered behind her hand.We are not off to a good start, here.  No. It is evident that there are a great many things you do not understand. That is only to be expected, seeing that you have been raised in the savage outlands. However, here in England, we observe manners. Sara was perplexed. It was not her desire to be unmannerly, but she could not immediately perceive what breach she had committed. You are too forward, Miss Crewe. I have not invited you to use my Christian name. We have already been introduced — Knowing one’s name is not sufficient reason to use it. A friend would call me Lavinia. You and I are not yet such friends. Oh, Lavvie, she is very young. Children use names freely. It was clear to Sara that Jessie intended to demonstrate her own superior rank of friendship — not merely 'Lavinia’, but a pet name. (How funny, that it should be called a 'pet' name, when it is Jessie who acts more as the 'pet’ to Lavinia.) Got 'em.Jessie's comment about Sara being a 'child', along with some other stuff, makes me pretty certain that her and Lavinia are teenagers, probably about 13 or so. Lavinia is technically correct by the way, despite all the airs she's putting on. According to Social Life; or The Manners and Customs of Polite Society, one should "Never address people by their Christian names unless very familiarly acquainted."  After all, Miss Minchin has set me to be her model. It is my responsibility to correct her mistakes. (It is a silly game, these manners, but I do enjoy games.) She curtseyed, then, if only slightly. I pray you will forgive me, Miss Herbert. I was too familiar. Lavinia waved a hand. You are forgiven, of course. Sara is a good girl, you guys.  Miss Minchin said that your father was stationed in India. I was curious where you had lived, whether we might have seen the same — And now, Lavinia held up her hand again. I have no interest in discussing anything whatsoever to do with India. It is not a proper topic for polite conversation. Sara frowned. From the odd look on Jessie’s face, she too seemed to find this answer disappointing. Please understand, Miss Crewe. We are here, in London, under the shield of Her Majesty the Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, Empress of India. Everything that matters in the world takes place within these miles. Trade within the City, Government in Parliament, and Society within the Palace. India is a distant hinterland, filthy and rife with disease. It... it is a jungle, out there.A very...ethnocentric view, to say the least. And unfortunately pretty much in line with the thinking of a lot of Victorian high society. I've been reading a lot of classic mystery novels lately, and Jesus, the arrogance of these people.   A proper lady expresses interest in India only to imagine the thrill of being made to briefly visit such a wild and terrible terrain. You should be very glad that you have escaped it. Thrills are exciting. Hush. Lavinia rubbed one hand over the other, as if brushing away dirt. I hope I have made myself clear. We will not be discussing India here. However, I will be very pleased to aid you in learning the ways of the English, Miss Crewe. I am certain that is what Miss Minchin had in mind when she directed you to me. That is very kind of you. Not at all. It is my duty, and every good English man or woman is keen to do his or her duty. Like my Papa the soldier. Yes, if you must. (I still don't understand why she refuses to speak about India. Wasn't she born there? She must know how lovely it can be...)Maybe we'll get an answer to that question if the thread decides to pursue her route. I'd say the interaction went rather well, since we got away with only mild condescension on Lavinia's part.   Miss Minchin walked up and down between the desks, ensuring that each pupil’s head was bowed to her particular lessons. She paused beside Sara, a book in her hand. Now, Sara. As your papa has engaged a French maid for you, I conclude that he wishes you to make a special study of the French language. Ah — I think he engaged her because he — he thought I would like her, Miss Minchin. I am afraid that you may have been something of a spoiled little girl, and as such, you always imagine that things are done because you like them. It is a fault in you, and one that we must endeavour to train away. I... My impression, Sara, is that your papa wished for you to learn French. I... I have never really learned to speak French, but — but — That is quite enough. You have never learned, and so you must begin at once. The French master, Monsieur Dufarge, will be here in a few minutes. Take this book and look at it until he arrives. ...We, of course, all know from last update that Sara can already speak French. Miss Minchin would know too, if she let Sara get a word in edgewise. Minchin is the type of teacher I can stand the least-- the kind that only half-listens to you, and conveniently picks up just the words to prove that they are right and that you are wrong. Talking to them is useless.  ('le pčre', the father...'la mčre', the mother...) You look rather cross, Sara. I am sorry you do not like the idea of learning French. I am very fond of it, but — You must not say 'but' when you are told to do things. Case in point. Miss Abbot! Young ladies should not make dreadful snickering noises like a horse. Yes, Miss Minchin! Sara, look at your book again. Yes, Miss Minchin. ('le fils', the son... 'le frčre', the brother... oh dear...) Shortly after, Monsieur Dufarge arrived in the classroom. The French master was an elderly gentleman with a neatly trimmed mustache and beard, and hair that flew outwards in dramatic points. His eyes lit up when he caught sight of an unfamiliar little girl puzzling over a book of French phrases. Ah! Is this a new pupil for me, madame?Side note, I'm a little confused about Minchin's marital status-- the French master here refers to her as madame, indicating a married woman, but the students and sign on the school say 'Miss', indicating an unmarried woman. In modern times this distinction doesn't matter much, but in the Victorian era it was of the utmost importance. I'm leaning towards unmarried, simply because she is running a business, which would be odd for a married woman at the time. She's at least in her 30s, maybe 40s, which qualifies her as a spinster-- and she certainly fits the stereotype of a miserable, grumpy, and undesirable woman. The book makes a point of how ugly and "fish-eyed" she is-- though artist has clearly decided not to go with that interpretation.  I am very sorry to hear that, mademoiselle. Perhaps, when we begin to study together, I may show you that it is a charming tongue. Little Sara rose in her seat. She was beginning to feel rather desperate. S'il vous plait, monsieur, je ne peux pas lui faire comprendre... Please, sir, I can't make her understand...  What — what on earth? What is she saying? Is this some form of joke? Ah, madame, there is not much I can teach her. She has not learned French; she is French. Her accent is exquisite. You — you ought to have told me! I tried — I suppose I did not begin right... *giggle*That's uh-- I don't know if that's such a great idea, girls--   Silence, young ladies! Silence at once! And though the other students soon settled back into proper schoolroom behaviour, Miss Minchin's lips remained tightly pressed together whenever she looked at Sara. ...Moving on to our post-activities scene...  lee pair... the father... lee, no, lah mare... the mother... To Ermengarde, it had seemed almost unbelievable that a girl of her own age could string together so many words of French as if they were mere trifles. Dismayed at her own failings, she was devoting more effort than usual to the trial of understanding her lessons. Her elbows rested on the desk, her hands under her chin, as she repeated the broken syllables under her breath. She stared so hard and bit the ribbon on her pigtail so fast that she attracted the attention of Miss Minchin; who, feeling extremely cross at the moment, immediately pounced upon her.Despite being broken up by the activities screen, this is probably a continuation of the previous scene.   I — what? Remove your elbows! Take your ribbon out of your mouth! Sit up at once! Yes, Miss Minchin! *giggle* ...Lavinia and Jessie do that a lot. So much so that I have it saved in the document where I keep sprite links.  Good bread... lee bong pang? Kindly though he was, Monsieur Dufarge could not help but smile at her pronunciation. That is not quite correct. Ecoutez bien: ’Le Bon Pain'. Listen well: 'the good bread'. For anyone curious, it's pronounced something like 'luh bon pan'-- not exactly, since perfectly communicating French words with English pseudo-phonemes is just not going to happen, but it gives you an idea.  *giggle* Girls! Conduct yourselves. ... (It isn’t funny, really. They ought not to laugh.) (Poor thing!) It was a way of hers always to want to spring into any fray in which someone was made uncomfortable or unhappy. However, there was no way for any hero to defend or rescue Ermengarde from the horrors of education; at least, not until the lesson period had concluded. Time to vote once more, friends. Our choices are quickly filling out! The image is accurate for once-- other than Lottie (who still needs +2 belief), we've already met the requirements for everyone else. Remember to also cast your three votes for activities-- information under the OP. See you next time!
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Read a book, go for a walk, no party like a tea party. Let's.... go meet Ermengarde instead. Maybe she's less of a mean giggler. I'm sure we could help her learn French.  I wonder if Lavinia is very worried/sad about her dad being in India so she deals with it by refusing to even talk about the country as much as she can and she really wants to be known as the model student so she goes way too much into it. Or she really is just full of herself.
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Jul 26, 2020 11:10
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Walk, write, and party; spend time with Ermengard.
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Jul 26, 2020 11:25
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I'm reading Ermengarde's name as Ohmigawd and I cannot unthink this thought, so let's hang out with her. Lets also Write Write Write in our diary, since it seems to be the highest chance of raising our Belief.
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Jul 26, 2020 13:18
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I'm not positive about this, but I think that Ms. Minchin being called 'madame' by the French teacher as a sign of respect. Madame and mademoiselle are actually mashups of two different words. Madame comes from 'ma' and 'dame' which mean 'my' and 'lady' respectfully while mademoiselle comes from 'ma' and 'demoiselle' which translates to 'my little lady'. There is also the fact that in English speaking countries like England, madame is a title of respect used in speaking to or of an older woman, especially one of distinction, who is not of American or British origin. So while mademoiselle would technically be more accurate here, madame is more respectful for the French teacher to use because of her age and her status within the school. Oh, and my vote is for Write, Walk, Write and meeting Ermengarde.
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Jul 26, 2020 14:12
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Ewwww Lavinia's racist. Not unheard of for the time I guess but still gross to read in the modern day. But yeah, walk, read, tea party.
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Jul 26, 2020 15:47
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My goodness, that Ms Herbert is a frightful boor! Let's not spend any more time with her! Let's try introducing ourselves to Also write, read and dance.
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Jul 26, 2020 16:32
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Astrofig posted:Ewwww Lavinia's racist. Not unheard of for the time I guess but still gross to read in the modern day. I'm actually wondering if in this version, Lavinia's mother is Indian or partially of Indian descent and she doesn't want anyone to know. A lot of Anglo-Indian families were more Indian than they liked to admit.
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Jul 26, 2020 16:53
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Ghost Car posted:I'm actually wondering if in this version, Lavinia's mother is Indian or partially of Indian descent and she doesn't want anyone to know. A lot of Anglo-Indian families were more Indian than they liked to admit. Yeah, she hasn't mentioned her mother at all, which is a bit suspicious when she's talking about how a proper lady should behave. It seems like the thing she'd bring up with a rhetorical flourish (though maybe she doesn't want to be too cruel to the kid with the dead mom.)
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Jul 26, 2020 17:02
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I had been assuming she was part Indian because her sprite is darker skinned than all the others plus the fact that she was born there. I’ll toss a vote in for writing x 3 and meeting with Ermengarde
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Jul 26, 2020 17:27
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Ermengarde write, walk, write This is just a lot of conjecture from me, but it almost sounds like Lavinia is not proud of her Indian heritage. Likely because it was brought up in a different setting and other people had the same reaction. Or she was taught not to bring it up, just to prevent the situation in its entirety. It doesn't seem that she has bad memories of the place, though. She might want to discuss it if prompted in the right context.
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Jul 26, 2020 17:27
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starbucks hermit posted:Ermengarde
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Jul 26, 2020 17:53
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Whenever I saw the name Ermengarde, I couldn't help but feel like I heard that name before. Eventually I remembered that I heard it in another visual novel game, The Letter.
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Hello everyone, and welcome back to LLP. The game where I gently caress up the basic mechanics, and so can't use the "Ermengarde rules, Lavinia drools" line that I wanted to for this intro.  After playing the scene with Ermengarde and getting to the next scheduling screen, I noticed that our sympathy had dropped from 5 to 0. I was confused, and wondering if the save editor I had used (because I also forgot to save after taking the screenshots for the last update; I'm really on a roll here guys) was causing problems. It turns out, no-- when you select scenes, you are spending those stats in order to unlock them. This is a major detail and helps explain why the caps are so low-- it's also something I have absolutely no memory of from when I played the game for myself. But sure enough there's a screen (that I didn't include in the update, or you know, even bother to read) that spells it out pretty explicitly.  So...yeah. I'm a big ding dong dingus. But at least we know now. Sorry guys.  Let's move on to the rest of the update.  Patience is maxed!  Since we can't gain any more, rolling patience gain on any activity is essentially a waste, so we may want to think about spending it if we can-- but it's not that big of a deal if we don't. It's also worth noting that since we didn't have any vigour icons and landed on one of the "gain X equal to vigour" options, we gained nothing from walking other than some fresh air. But enough of that-- let's hang out with Ermengarde, who unanimously won the vote. Someone like Lavinia could be easily tracked from a distance by the sharp sound of her voice, or the drumming heels of little girls stampeding away from her presence. Ermengarde, however, kept largely to herself and did not make a great deal of noise. Sara found her at last, bundled rather disconsolately in a window seat. Forthright and fearless, Sara walked over to offer a friendly greeting. Hello. What is your name? Her name, of course, was already known, as they had been introduced — however briefly — upon Sara’s arrival at the school. This was, however, the traditional thing that little girls always said to each other by way of beginning an acquaintance. The etiquette of children has its own observances. Ah — My name's Ermengarde St. John. Mine is Sara Crewe. Yours is very pretty. It sounds like a story book. Do — do you like it? Cliques and friendships in a small environment can become very firmly set indeed, and leave no room for the excluded, no matter how many years might pass. To the friendless, then, a new student brings with her a breath of hope. 'Here is someone who is not yet claimed! Perhaps she will like me?’ And yet, as she is unknown, friendship may not be a possibility. A new girl could equally be snobbish, or foolish, or mean-spirited. The hope is always adulterated with fear. This pupil was even more noteworthy than most, for rumours about her had filled the school even before her arrival. She had her own carriage and her own maid; her rooms were like no one else's; her wardrobe was exquisite; she had the adventure of a voyage from India to discuss. It is no wonder that Ermengarde was somewhat tongue-tied upon being addressed. I like yours — your name. I have a good feeling about Ermengarde, guys. Sara held out her hand, not as a grand lady might for a gentleman to touch it, but as if greeting someone who was already a friend. After only a moment’s hesitation, Ermengarde took it. I'm very pleased to meet you. Me, too. Oh! You should meet Emily as well. Who is Emily? Come up to my room and you shall see. All right... They jumped down from the window seat together, and went upstairs.Tbh, I'm very thankful that we don't have to read Sara explaining her doll for...the fourth time? I was starting to get tired of it.  The ordinary pupils at Miss Minchin's Select Seminary had only small bedrooms of their own. Enough space to sleep and dress and read if they were inclined, but for most activities they must venture out. Yes. Papa asked Miss Minchin to let me have one. She opened the door and beckoned Ermengarde inside.  Oh! It's beautiful. Sometimes, when I am playing, I make up stories about the things that I am doing and tell them to myself, and I don't like people to hear me. It spoils it if I think people might listen. (Does that sound too selfish of me?) Ermengarde had paused, her eyes wide. You make them up? How — how can you do that? Why, anyone can make up things. Have you never tried? But where do the stories come from? Inside my head. Don't you ever imagine things that might happen, that haven't? You must have dreams when you sleep, at least. Ermengarde shook her head, her braids wobbling.In the classic mystery novels I've been reading, people talk about "imagination" a lot. It seems to be connected to someone being prone to flights of fancy and getting carried away, but also to their intellect and ingenuity. People who are "unimaginative" are boring and set in their ways, and may even be portrayed as stupid. I couldn't find any sources talking about this explicitly, though, so keep in mind this is me more or less talking out of my rear end about observations I've made in fiction books.  I try very hard, but it doesn't seem to help. Sara found the concept of a girl with no imagination at all too difficult to grasp. Surely you must read storybooks about things that aren't real. Oh, no! I hate to read. Seeing that this response disappointed Sara, she fished for a better explanation. I don't read well, I can't concentrate. The words run together. And it's so hard to remember anything that I read in a book. I am meant to read a great many books for Miss Minchin’s classes, but I get them all mixed up. When we read poems after history, I thought that Christabel was the daughter of the King of Spain. I don't want to read anything more than I absolutely must, I'll only make a muddle of it. B-but it's good that you can! What if you read stories about fairies, or dragons? Surely you wouldn't get those confused with things at school. But I might... You are very like a fairy, and you are here at school. I'm sorry. I'm very dull. And slow. Everyone says so. I — I understand if you do not wish to spend any more time with me. Poor Ermengarde. I get the feeling that she's been down this road before, only to be abandoned. Everyone is different. I am only sorry that it means I cannot share my favourite books with you. I have so many favourites that I love, and I wish that you could love them too. Oh! I have an idea. Perhaps if I read them to you, then you would not get them confused with other books? I don't know... Hesitantly, she smiled. ...But I could try? Good. Luckily, that won't be the case with Sara. Ermengarde is a sweetheart, despite how much the book likes to repeat that she is "dull", "stupid", and "fat".   It was only a blue tit. They’re hopelessly common. I hadn't seen one before. They're — They're country birds. They like trees. You don't see them so much in London. There must be many more birds in the country. Are there any birds in England that are blue all over? I don't think so. Are there blue birds in India? Well, there are some birds with bright blue feathers, but not all over, and some birds that are blue all over, but only a bit blue. I thought that perhaps in England I might find the Bluebird of Happiness. What is that?This scene doesn't actually go into it, so I shall endeavor to answer Ermengarde's question here.  The Bluebird of Happiness here probably refers to the popular French fairy tales, which would make sense for Sara to know about and not the other girls, as our story is set in 1888, but an English translated collection of the various stories wouldn't be available until 1892. It's the kind of thing I can see Captain Crewe getting for Sara, as a replacement for the stories her French mother might have told her at bedtime, had she lived. You shouldn't give orders to Cook. It's not proper for a young lady to go into the kitchens. Oh, I won't go. My maid, Mariette, will fetch the tea for us. You have your own personal maid to bring you tea? Yes, my father arranged for her to come from France. Come and say hello! ...Uh oh. I think I can sense the seeds of a rivalry being sewn.    Oh, my. So many visitors. If it's all right, would you please bring tea for my guests, Mariette? Oui, mademoiselle. Mariette went at once to the kitchens to carry out her little mistress's orders.  Here, now, what's this, then? Afternoon tea for four. Oh, is that all? I expect she’ll be wanting fresh cakes, too, never mind that we haven’t any made. Ah, non, there are biscuits already. Never seen that stop one of those girls from wanting more, quick-as-you-please. It is perhaps so, with some, but not with my mistress. Elle a l'air d'une princesse, cette petite! She thanks me for my work just as if she were thanking a grand lady. She has the air of a princess, this little one! Hmph. Givin' herself airs, you mean. As you wish it. Still, I am very pleased with my place. Now, the tea?Well, it's good to know that Mariette likes working for us, even if Cook isn't impressed. We're skipping activity selection here, as always.  Yes, Miss Minchin. Where is she taking Sara?Oh dear, it appears we're being gossiped about!  'Dear Sara' must come into the drawing room and talk to Mrs. Musgrave about India. 'Dear Sara' must speak French to Lady Pitkin. Her accent is so perfect! She didn't learn her French at this Seminary, that’s for certain! And there's nothing so clever in her knowing it. She says herself she didn’t learn it at all. She just picked it up, because she always heard her papa speak it. It's simply disgusting, the way Miss Minchin trots her out like an ornament. I can't imagine being so good at anything that Miss Minchin should want to show me off. Especially French. Sara is always imagining. She will no doubt grow up to be 'eccentric'. There is one thing about her, though. She's never 'grand' about herself the least bit, even though she easily might be. I believe I couldn't help being proud — just a little — if had so many fine things and was made such a fuss over.  Oh, Lavvie, don't be silly! Being a cat might be even nicer than being able to speak French. And every bit as likely, for you! ... There's no use in waiting here for Sara. She'll be at tea for hours, I'm sure. We may as well go on our way. Another nice moment ruined by Lavinia being a jerk, how shocking. Regardless, it's time to select who we spend our time with! Remember that stats listed for the scenes we choose will be spent. We need +3 Sympathy for Jessie, +1 Belief for Lottie, and +2 Belief for Ermengarde. We have everything we need for Lavinia, and Mariette's scene is free. Remember also to submit your three votes for activities! See you guys next time. yamiaainferno fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Nov 21, 2020 |
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Well, since we were gonna have tea with three of our companions, I suggest Tea Party, Tea Party, Tea Party because we have all this tea, so someone's gonna have to drink it. Then, I'd like to hang out with Ermengarde Is it possible to make multiple selections? I want to see Ermengarde's event next, but that depends on whether or not we get enough resources. Maybe it'll just be a "LPer's choice" kind of outcome if the thread aims too high to have Sara be the James to this game's Jessie.
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starbucks hermit posted:Is it possible to make multiple selections? I want to see Ermengarde's event next, but that depends on whether or not we get enough resources. Maybe it'll just be a "LPer's choice" kind of outcome if the thread aims too high to have Sara be the James to this game's Jessie. Unless we start having a lot of issues in the future, I'd prefer to just keep it at one vote per person. If all options voted for are unavailable I'll probably post a 24-hour sudden death vote in the thread (or maybe just re-roll our stat gains, if we're really close  )
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