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Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



redleader posted:

i cannot get over this one



Jesus.

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Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Rand Brittain posted:

The thing about having "treat people as objects" as your whole thing is that you know exactly what the difference between 90% dead and 100% dead is.

Mostly dead is still slightly alive.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



I can't bring myself to hate John the way so many people seem to. Like, ok, sure, he killed an entire solar system, but it's not as though he was really in his right mind when he did it. The Earth gave him the power of necromancy with no training, preparation, or explanation. She can't put the tool into his hands without telling him how to use it and then get angry when he fucks it up.

I don't think that there was anything even remotely close to a good outcome for that entire situation.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



FuturePastNow posted:

It's all very biblical, you know. What would happen if someone like Jesus actually appeared in the 21st century, able to cure cancer with a touch. How would our governments and media treat this person? What would you do if you had the powers of god, but the whole world feared and hated you? The Christian god punished humanity's misdeeds with a flood and started over.

John is a horrible, evil person, and also a very normal, very human one.

Yes, exactly.

You could also make a comparison to Captain Ahab, I think, seeing how all-consuming his hatred of the people who had destroyed the biosphere was.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



pseudorandom name posted:

Also what if the fuckers that doomed Earth to extinction hired God to save the human species* and then fired him in favor of a different plan to save the human species**.

* They weren't actually paying him to save the human species.
** The alternate plan to save the human species also didn't save the human species.


*** While also destroying his life's work.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Kesper North posted:

get in the lyctor, shinji

Holy poo poo.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



John telling Harrow that she needs to finish her tea and biscuits because it builds character.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Machineries of Empire is extremely good and is also very queer in a way that's quite different from TLT. Excellent books.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



I think Ianthe is mocking Palamedes with that first response, yes.

Also my God she is serving some goddamned looks in this thing.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



I find it delightful that Palamedes built up and fell in love with an idealized image of a woman in his head who happened to be named Dulcinaea.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Rand Brittain posted:

More importantly, how is Gideon getting her hands on girlie mags when the entire economy of the Ninth House is designed in order to spite Gideon personally?

Maybe Harrow orders it in and then leaves her cast-offs somewhere for Gideon to find.

cptn_dr posted:

Put out his hat to collect change while reciting poetry in the undercrypts.

I assume that the people tossing coins into his hat are doing so to get him to stop.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Arsenic Lupin posted:

I do not want to think about Harrow's taste in porn, but I'd be shocked if it ranged as far as Best Titties of the 109th Legion.

Beggars can't be choosers.

PupsOfWar posted:

Harrow does immediately realize Frontline Titties of the Fifth isn't a real publication

either Crux complained to her that the porn Gideon tried bribing him with was fake, or she has an encyclopedic knowledge of dirty periodicals

I'm mildly hung up on the concept of fake pornography, although I suppose something like Sultry 'N Steamy Sixth House Sluts could actually just be a story about a bunch of nerds trying to fix a broken thermostat.

Mad Hamish fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Sep 5, 2023

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.





Sometimes Tumblr has good things.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



A few months ago while under the spell of the imp of the perverse I made an ill-advised expedition to the TLT section on AO3, and discovered that for some inscrutable reason there were many, many fics shipping John and Sarpedon. I can only assume it's because they're a rare instance of two male characters who spent a few pages in physical proximity.

Also a lot of people shipping Naberius and Palamedes, basically making them sex pals.

not sorry!

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Dramatika posted:

Page 468 of Nona, according to my kindle app.


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In my defence, so many things are happening at the end of Nona that it's not unreasonable to miss that, assuming Ianthe is even telling the truth and not being manipulative and hurtful because she's, you know, Ianthe.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



sebmojo posted:

yeah he'd be a fun guy to have a beer with, couple of laughs, maybe a quick relentless ten thousand year vengeance campaign

Look, dude knows how to really nurse a grudge and as a champion grudge-holder I gotta give respect where it's due.

Lyctorize Me At Once holy poo poo.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



disposablewords posted:

Nah, John really still wants to be seen as a cool dude who people like and can get along with. Even if he is something different now, he fully merits being judged given what he is trying to be. If you're an unreachable, amoral god beyond judgement, then commit to the bit and don't try to have fun dinner parties and relationships.

I don't think that dinner party was fun for anyone except the reader.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.




gently caress.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



C-Euro posted:

im permabanned poster skeletonstomper99. i first started reading necromancy forums when i was about 12. by 14 i got really obsessed with the concept of "lyctorhood" and tried to channel it constantly, until my thought process got really bizarre and i would repeat things like "one flesh one end" and "his fingers and gestures" in my head for hours, and i would get really paranoid, start seeing things in the corners of my eyes etc, basically prodromal schizophrenia. im now on antipsychotics. i always wondered what the kind of "boomer" style of emperor worship was all about; i think it's the unconscious leaking in to the conscious, what jungian theory considered to be the cause of schizophrenic and schizotypal syptoms. i would advise all people who "get" the nine houses to be careful because that likely means you have a predisposition to a mental illness. peace.

ALSO gently caress

silvergoose posted:

I'm not sure if I know the reference...

It's a mockery of the opening lines of the ironically popular and extremely bad and badly-written Harry Potter fanfic My Immortal.

I'm just imagining John flying in on a broom made of bones and smoking a black gothic cigar and low-key losing my poo poo over here.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



silvergoose posted:

Ahhh, okay. I only know the weird rear end rationality one in that particular genre.

Hartowhark Nonagesimus and the Methods of Rationality.

poo poo, wait, that already exists in-universe and it's Palamedes.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



I think perhaps some of Harrow's problems in Canaan House could be because she has basically no social education whatsoever and doesn't know what to do around people who are her social equals (ie, not 'below' her station) and are not ambulatory skeletons.

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Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Dawgstar posted:

"Oh my god, John, put on ACTUAL pants!" - Mercy
"They're comfy." - Jod

John is a proper millennial and would respond that shorts are comfy and easy to wear.

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