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The Audible VO struggling with New Zealand slang ends up creating a bunch of moments that are funny for very different reasons than intended. Like don't get me wrong, she does a great job and Kiwi slang is weird as poo poo, it's just very funny to hear "You egg!" said like it's Elizabeth Bennet admonishing Mr. Darcy. It's a playground insult, it's like an equivalent of "buttmunch" or something and I think the original intent was to make them sound childish, but the VO delivers it with such tremendous gravitas. There is also the phrase "lose her [ba]nana" which the VO reads as "lose her nanna" and bless her, nobody deserves to have to deal with New Zealand English and she's doing her best.
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Tamsyn has said it's not Homestuck because it is clearly Final Fantasy 10 and honestly that makes way more sense. When I first heard that I didn't believe it at all but now I can't unsee it. Resurrection Beasts = Sin, Heralds = Sinspawn, Jod = Jecht, Harrow = YunaLulu, Gideon = AuronTidus.
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silvergoose posted:Aw *come* on. EDIT: I just realized how fake that sounds, but a ton of people on these forums know my real identity, if any of youse wanna speak up to confirm I'm not full of poo poo, feel free. SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 03:55 on May 24, 2022 |
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(for the record I don't think any characters are direct analogues to any other characters in any ripoff way, influences are influences, and it's not really surprising that characters are composites of characters taken from other places, but also it's kinda fun to dig through those influences and figure out where characters came from creatively speaking)
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Griddle and Harrow I'm honestly not sure about, but the RB = Sin/Herald = Sinspawn thing was the first moment of "what the gently caress maybe she's not joking" and I've spent the last six months going insane trying to figure out who is who.
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Happy Landfill posted:That tracks and is hilarious I love these books The OTHER thing that came from that first interview was that I brought up 40k and she got this LOOK on her face, burst out laughing, then abruptly changed the subject. SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 05:42 on May 24, 2022 |
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Oh my god yes poo poo sucks. I just wanted to write books about wizards, I don't know why it needs to involve so much doxxing. But re the interview it's been ages (article dropped late November 2019, I think the interview was a couple of weeks before that?) and there were technical issues that meant I never had a proper transcript so I'm just running from memory but I think I said Canaan House reminded me a ship from Battlefleet Gothic? And then I started saying "oh, that's Warhammer 40,000, if you know it" until I realised she was giving the look. HtN wasn't out at that point, if it was I'd have brought up The River and it's a point I want to hopefully hit next time. For some additional colour though, because this really stuck with me and I don't really see it discussed in TLT fandom spaces: we talked about the role ANZ humour played in it, and later I read Damon Reese's wonderful essay The Uncanny Valley of Culture and her words came back to me – I think a lot of readers don't understand the social role of the memery, how it's less about WELL, THAT HAPPENED style Hollywood quips and more of a warning sign that something is very wrong. Gideon is telling jokes not because she's a cool funtime prankster but because she's terrified and humour is the thing stopping her from having a nervous breakdown. This para in particular is like ... yeah that's Nav, if you're from this part of the world you recognise it instantly. Australian and NZ culture differ in a lot of ways but we definitely share this one. quote:Maddy, whose lack of attention to detail was the driving force behind Chay’s death, does not meaningfully engage with it. She simply refuses; the trauma and guilt weighs too heavily on her shoulders. Her relationship with Chay becomes defined by a ghastly breach of consent, and she is so deeply stuck in survival mode that she sees no way out than to maintain the status quo. SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 06:41 on May 24, 2022 |
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Nav would absolutely be funny in more chill surroundings, she's a bigtime shitposter, it's more that a lot of the framing/timing of the jokes is like ... it'll be a very tense scene, and she'll crack a joke, and it doesn't break the tension. It's whistling steam from a pressure cooker. Kiwis joke when we're happy, but there's a very specific sort of humour that comes out when poo poo is really bad and nobody is willing to look it in the eye.
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Happy Landfill posted:I'm now incredibly interesting in reading a Kiwi analysis of these books. COWS WATCH THE SUNSET?!? TAZ YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 06:57 on May 24, 2022 |
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Everyone posted:I'm pretty much going to need to just leave this thread until I get and read the book in September, aren't I?  I just really want to, holy poo poo aaaa
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Devastated to learn I am also fourth house, I wanna hang out with Sex Pal dammit
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DreamingofRoses posted:To be true Sixth House you always have to reach for the writing materials first so you can record data. Then it was wall-to-wall 4th House things I wanted to be practical dammit.
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EDIT: I should not be revealing things until I have locked in a formal interview but there was briefly more FFX stuff here. If you saw it, be cool.
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Happy Landfill posted:man New Zealand sounds cool on a more serious note, I think both Taz and I write that veil of humour b/c we're roughly the same age and the NZ literary scene we grew up in was bleak. It was Owen Marshall and Kirsty Gunn. I remember seeing a movie in '04-'05 that ended with the protag laying her head down on the train tracks then slowly smiling as they began to vibrate. There was an Owen Marshall adaptation out just last year that's loving harrowing. We used to joke "it's not NZ lit until somebody drowns". I think there's a generation of writers who came up through that environment and also had a lot of trauma, and we couldn't keep reading poo poo that wallowed in it – there was a need, I think, to find meaning in those howls of pain, and often that involves kinda messy/vulnerable/human-ness, humour as veil and coping mechanism both, reminding us that we're human and stopping us from breaking down under relentless pressure and pain.
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Yeah, I try to keep a level of separation between personal and professional identities because the industry is a snakepit right now (what happened to Taz hosed me up, I have nightmares about it) but too many people know who I am here to fully keep it apart – the book came out of a CC IRC thing, I shouted out a goon by username in the acknowledgements and like ten others by their names. I was particularly cagey/weird on here a couple of weeks back because it was around the launch and I was going mad with stress, not sleeping, constantly waiting for some horrible shoe to drop. Got kinda paranoid there for a bit, though in my defence some level of paranoia seems justified.
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Happy Landfill posted:I think Muffin might be referring to this? SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Jul 1, 2022 |
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neongrey posted:e: im not seeing anything new there that i havent seen before CAM AND SEXPAL DO A F– *gets immediately merced by 100 BoE snipers*
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cptn_dr posted:Has anyone spotted a way to pre-order Nona with black edges pages yet? I desperately need it to match the other two.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I'm still on the lookout for more books with that vibe. Happy Landfill posted:I don't know if SurreptitiousMuffin is still lurking this thread but I picked up The Dawnhounds recently, along with paperback copies of Gideon and Harrow. Here it is, on my bed!
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people defending me have forgotten one thing: i'm an idiot
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hnnnnnng I said I wouldn't spoil anything but okay okay it's forums moderator Sebmojo inside the body of forums moderator Sebmojo SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Aug 25, 2022 |
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cptn_dr posted:That's the beauty of Taz's writing — even when something catches you completely off guard, you can see all the clues there in retrospect once you know.
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Cugel the Clever posted:Unless the Body is a heretofore unintroduced character, yes.
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Ashamed to say I only just caught this 
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Happy Landfill posted:I'm really feeling this tumblr post right now
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EDIT: wait I've been seeing it in NZ bookstores but it's apparently not out internationally for a couple of days, holding fire on thoughts for now.
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