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I got pointed here from the SF thread, and I am so grateful to all of you for your analyses, because these books confuse the hell out of me. I have, however, gotten many bitter chuckles out of "I can't wait until 2022 when Alecto is released."
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2023 04:23 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 07:36 |
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The monkey's paw curls a finger The next book is in Noodle's POV.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2023 04:46 |
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(backreading this thread like a Sixth Houser expecting a test) cptn_dr, could you post the recipe for your Princess of Ida cocktail?
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2023 17:49 |
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cptn_dr posted:Yep! I much, much prefer shaken drinks because I love the little ice shards that melt on your tongue (first sip only)
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2023 19:15 |
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Welp, finished The Mysterious Study of Doctor Sex. Thanks, I needed that heartbreak. Apart from the gut-punch of the ending, finding out I would have liked the real Dulcinea a lot was painful.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 18:25 |
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BTW, the "Beguiling Corpse" theorem may be a reference to the Exquisite Corpse game invented by the Surrealists. You fold a paper into segments. The first player writes* writes part of a story and hands it over to the second writer. The second writer writes another part of the story and folds the paper so that the first player's contribution cannot be seen. Repeat until everybody's written; then open the paper and see the wild twists the story takes. It's fun. * Sometimes artists play this and draw instead of writing.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2023 19:37 |
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Dolash posted:Really bringing me back to some of the latter-day Homestuck arguments about consequences, stakes, and the ability to give a poo poo. [spoiler]I get your meaning about the stakes of death as they stand in-universe, in the story, but I think with how metatextually-aware the whole story's been written that those are the wrong stakes to worry about.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2023 18:07 |
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FuturePastNow posted:Is there's a cliff's notes summary of Homestuck I can read in 5 minutes or less 8000 pages, 1.2 million words, multiple Flash animations, original music, several interactive Flash games, communication primarily by '90s-era chatlogs, and a ravening fandom. The plot eats itself several times, including once where a character goes back in time and rewrites multiple panels of the existing comic. The whole thing is insanely self-referential. Originally, four kids play a videogame that ends the universe, and then try to survive that. Long-term, eight kids, twenty-four trolls (gray alien beings, roll with it), and some supporting characters try to create and influence new universes; some of them are much more successful than others. The plot is way, way too big to fit into a five-minute summary, but fundamentally a lot of people die, some of them come back anyway, repeatedly, many long conversations happen over chat. There are multiple sequential Big Bads, each of whom our characters think they can defeat and end the whole thing. The main thing to take away is that Homestuck is meta as *gently caress*. It is constantly breaking the fourth wall, constantly referring to and parodying popular culture, constantly responding to the audience. Originally, it began as a choose-your-own-adventure where the readers voted on what would happen next, but that didn't last long. There is no way to summarize the plot, seriously. Just say that it's a comic that is about itself, about identity (not just gender/race/etc identity, but "if there are 37 copies of me, which one is real?"), about 8000 pages . "Let me tell you about Homestuck" is a teens meme because people would thrust themselves on you and start explaining and civilizations would rise and fall before the explanation was complete. e: Dolash's and my avatars are from Homestuck. edit edit: My avatar shows two characters who are arguing about whether the guy in the red suit is responsible for the actions of an alt-universe version of himself. That version started off as an alternate-timeline split, merged with a bird with a sword stuck through it, then popped back into the main timeline. That's Homestuck. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Sep 2, 2023 |
# ¿ Sep 2, 2023 19:15 |
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StumblyWumbly posted:I feel like Homestuck was incredibly of its time socially, technologically, and culturally. It's like a full solar eclipse, the people who were there will never forget it, but descriptions make it sound dumber the longer they go on.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2023 20:27 |
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Did you do that? If so, wild applause. Rand Brittain posted:she's running on the mental level of Friendship is Magic and trying to broker peace between Israel and Palestine.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2023 20:41 |
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Oh, God, I'm going to explain quadrants. Shoot me now. A central Homestuck concept, one that parasitized Homestuck fandom, is troll relationship "quadrants": the trolls divide romantic (not necessarily erotic) relationships into four distinct classes. The one that's specifically relevant to Locked Tomb is "kismesis", represented by a deck-of-cards spade. Two people who are in a kismesis relationship hate* each other, but they also want to make each other better so that they can hate each other more. People in a kismesis sharpen each other's blades, make each other stronger so they can tear each other down again. The trolls consider kismesis an erotic romantic relationship. Gideon and Harrow are in a classic Homestuck kismesis. They are constantly snapping at each other. Harrow's notes to Gideon are condescending. Gideon's interior dialogue has a lot to say about Harrow, much of it unflattering. But when the chips are down, they trust each other to be at the top of their respective skills. I have a very bad memory, but I don't recall Gideon or Harrow ever dismissing the other's competence as swordsman or necromancer. Yes, enemies-to-friends and enemies-to-lovers are all over Western (at least) culture. The specific case of "I hate you therefore I will make you stronger" is a Homestuck thing. Reading the Locked Tomb through Homestuck goggles, Gideon/Harrow is the type specimen of a kismesis, with the erotic part sublimated but undeniable. * extended meaning of "hate" specific to Homestuck, aka "it's all more complicated".
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2023 17:03 |
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Reclaimer posted:I really think that's just parallel slang to "plowed" but who even knows It's Muir, so it's probably intentional.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2023 18:50 |
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PupsOfWar posted:we're unaware of just how toxic the relationship between the Twins is and how loving awful it would be to be stuck in the middle of it - maintaining the ruse, trying to mediate between them somehow while being the galaxy's thirdest of third wheels. Back to quadrants. There is a non-erotic quadrant called "clubs" in which two people are really really bad for each other (and for the universe) as would-be spades. The third partner in a clubs relationship, in this case Babs, tries to keep the two crazy people (Ianthe and Coronabeth) from exploding and destroying everything around then. It fits, damnit. Quertycoatl, you're right. How the hell is Gideon managing to get her hands on titty porn without access to goods or services?
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2023 05:06 |
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Actually they are printed on leeks by the thriving skeleton 'zine community.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2023 05:28 |
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Where did Ortus get the cash?
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2023 05:38 |
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Okay, I laughed, thank you.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2023 05:42 |
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Mad Hamish posted:Maybe Harrow orders it in and then leaves her cast-offs somewhere for Gideon to find.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2023 20:11 |
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Mad Hamish posted:Beggars can't be choosers.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2023 21:19 |
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Ceebees posted:I have a dumb question, how does one get and read Uninvited Guest? Backread the thread and there's a link.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2023 17:23 |
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Demon_Corsair posted:And the backstory of how John became god is just a giant exposition dump. It was interesting but just kind of there.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2023 16:52 |
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Kesper North posted:"This is the gothest book I have ever read. Possibly the gothest book ever written."
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2023 22:26 |
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Saraiguma posted:
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2023 04:06 |
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That Tamsyn Muir interview is heartbreaking. Man, if I had to give up fandom entirely, it would be such an enormous wrench. (Note that I am aware of other published SF authors who are open about continuing to write fic and read it, but not of their works. Muir is an outlier in deciding she can never safely participate in fandom again.)
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2023 18:05 |
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Lol put that way you gotta wonder whether the whole "kill your best friend to ascend for me" thing was basically just cult programming.
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2023 06:26 |
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Happy Landfill posted:
Still trying to parse Nona the Ninth, thanks.
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# ¿ Dec 4, 2023 18:23 |
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(genuflects)
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2023 20:14 |
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disposablewords posted:It's a garbage feature. I also resent that whenever I start a book, I have to put that book back into "show me the percentage complete" mode. It's not a global setting.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2023 22:38 |
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sebmojo posted:This is not how it happens It feels a little worse Like when we drove our hearse Right through that screaming crowd
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# ¿ Dec 24, 2023 20:09 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 07:36 |
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Tell your wife she did amazing work.
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