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Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
Why pay for QA when your early adopters will pay you to do it.

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Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Tarkus posted:

I do the same thing in many circumstances at work. I ask it technical questions and it generally gives a good response. One thing you have to remember is that it is flawed, like asking a person, so it's best to treat it like you're asking a really smart and knowledgeable person that gets things mixed up a bit sometimes. Trust but verify.

If you use BingBot instead of ChatGPT it cites its sources and then you just treat it as a Wikipedia page and follow the cites.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

pixaal posted:

Google's Bard also cites sources but still makes poo poo up from them! Bard really is the worst MML

Which is why, like Wikipedia, you just follow the sources and cite them instead.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

zedprime posted:

What if there was just some website where you could pose a question and it could give you a list of websites related to it for you to continue your research?

Hmm, probably just a pipe dream.

Yeah, using a search engine is great when you can focus your question enough to cut out a bunch of SEO/AI (ironic) garbage, but if you need to workshop your question to figure out what it is you should be searching for in the first place, it can be useful. Notably, I'm not saying search is dead nor am I saying AI search is infallible and should always be trusted.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

mllaneza posted:

There's an even better issue when it comes to using an LLM for writing code. It's trained on basically "the Internet", so that's what it's basing it's guesses on. Now what do you think there's more of, code posted for "help me fix this bug" or "help me with my homework", or code posted as an answer or to show off a useful technique? Code that doesn't work right is going to weigh very heavily in the model.

Specialist tools like Git CoPilot should address this, but I haven't checked yet to see how they handle it.

If you want to write Ansible, then Lightspeed will be the answer to that. Red Hat says it is due out for general access end of June, but also they haven't given a specific date yet.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
It only counts if you say, "with all due respect."

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Barudak posted:

I promise it is a normal industry and that I have never directly killed anyone.

By the way, Yakuza aren't all illegal under Japanese law. The broad umbrella term for criminal organizations in Japan who can actually be punished by law is "Anti-Social Forces" which is frankly badass.

Have you ever indirectly killed someone?

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
They don't want to hear about how they're wrong, they want to know how you're going to make them look good when you fix it and they take the credit.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
You can be an rear end in a top hat, just don't be a dick about it.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Don Karnage posted:

Unfortunately, I'm in a fairly small industry, so jobs are few and far between. I always have an eye out for other openings, though. When the other staff person resigned, I took on our joint projects by myself "temporarily" but am now trying to wind them down. Some I'm just abandoning outright and I certainly won't be starting any new projects on our "yearly work plan" now.

Every project you're not abandoning is a project you add as a starting new project.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
I once got hired during an interview and when my would be boss went to tell her boss that she filled the position, she was told that she was going to hire her boss' nephew. My would be boss was best friends with my then current boss who had arranged the interview because my contract was coming to an end.

That was fun.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

History Comes Inside! posted:

My least favourite department keeps trying to gently caress with my team by blaming us for things that are easily and irrefutably proven to be poo poo that they did.

They’re mad that they got some buttons taken away because they kept loving things up with them, they got so salty and pissy about it that eventually my boss relented and gave the buttons back, and now they’re on a mission to prove they never should have been taken away except every time they flag something as wrong the audit trail inevitably shows it was one of their own dipshits that did it.

Hopefully I get the green light to just switch their poo poo off again soon!

You're also having problems with your security department?

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
Team lunches with an entire team of people pathologically averse to making a decision is worse. Everyone will have no problem saying what they don't want but can never just loving say what they do want.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
When you work in tech (the large umbrella term, not the FAANG/Silicon Valley companies) you have to make an explicit choice. You either get, for industry, good pay but deal with all that bullshit or good work/life balance and company culture in a non "tech" industry as part of their tech team.

The companies that provide competitive to FAANG salaries while also being places to work that doesn't eat at your humanity are the goldilocks places that people rarely leave for obvious reasons.

So right now, I work in a non tech classified industry for great pay by national standards, but not great pay by tech standards, but also with the exception of my on call rotation have no real demands on my time and my company expects me to use all of my vacation every year. So long as I'm loosely available for business hours and my projects get done I can gently caress off and do whatever, whenever. But since I'm not in the tech industry itself it carries very little prestige and I have to network my rear end off for every new job because I can't trade off the weight of my job title/company when shopping around for the next job.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Chocobo posted:

I think I am failing upwards. Rapid promotions where I have excelled, but the next one is being forced on me and I have no interest or experince with the role. I know if i don't do well they'll make me stick it out because they have "invested in me".

Congrats, Peter.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Machai posted:

He was pretty good at his actual job, he just also really liked snorting coke off the clock and cooking food near his workstation.

We had worse dudes, both drugs-wise and bad at job-wise.

One of the guys that trained me dealt crack on the side and lived in a trap house. Before I knew all that stuff, I made the mistake of showing up for a cookout, and there were prostitutes there.

There was another guy that started the same day as me that ended up getting his fork truck license and then had it revoked within 2 months because he kept hitting stuff. Final straw was when he took out one of the cement barriers that separated the pedestrian walkway from the fork truck lanes. He was, unsurprisingly, a terrible driver, even by MA standards.

Sex workers can eat at cookouts too.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
Is your employee a racial minority who doesn't sound like the local majority? When I briefly worked in a call center support that had an international customer base, if you were a woman period or didn't sound basically what they thought a white person should sound like customers would do all sorts of loving bullshit abusive things to the people they were talking to.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Corporate lobbying to allow indenture clauses in contracts, and legalizing performance penalties that act as undischargable debt to the company who levied them.

Now this is the kind of idea that will get you in the board room.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Fork of Unknown Origins posted:

My boss and I can’t go on vacation at the same time because my bosses boss can’t do both of our jobs but my bosses boss and my boss can go on vacation at the same time because they believe I can do all three of our jobs.

Which isn’t entirely wrong since at least half my job is managing them.

Sounds like your paycheck is only 1/3 its correct size.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
Somebody is losing a finger.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
When I worked at a 24/7 place my favorite shift was 13:00 to 22:00. Didn't gently caress my sleep schedule up at all, still had mornings to do normal stuff and things went basically dead around my lunch break so I had plenty of opportunities to do internal training or just slum it. Plus as a 20 something, no one did anything until I got off work.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
It depends on how they've set up that employee network and what steps you had to do to connect to it. If it is just a simple wifi network and they aren't setting up an elaborate man in the middle then once you're connected to your personal VPN you'd be fine. But there are means for them to still intercept your traffic and snoop it, it'd just be more involved than simply having a standard wifi network available for employees. But also you shouldn't ever make it easy for them.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

StrangersInTheNight posted:

Saw a piece of advice for office small talk that was like, just say the day of the week and you'll be able to get along with anyone. and it's true. If someone asks you how you are, instead of hi, instead of talking about what you've done with the weekend, you can just say 'ugh it's Monday' and they'll move along

'Tuesday, Boo'
'Wednesday, Hump Day!'
'Thursday, almost the end of the week!'

You want people to always think you're busy so they leave you alone. So instead of doing this, modify it to:

It's Monday
It's the second Monday
It's the third Monday

etc...

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
I have local admin on my laptop because otherwise I can't do my job. A while back a security manager got a bug up their butt and decided to revoke everyone's local admin and made you have to request it again. Everyone on my team, who also all need local admin, submitted tickets to get back. All of them were rejected. Our manager talked to that person's boss and we resubmitted and got it. I got a new laptop this week and to install literally anything I need, I need local admin put on it. Submit a ticket saying I already have been approved, ref old ticket, but new device, at the start of the week, get manager approval, and it sits in security's queue for the entire week. Then today just before EOD security rejects it and so my manager talked to their boss again and on Monday I'm supposed to submit another request that will get approved this time.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Cyrano4747 posted:

People are obviously idiots when taking that too far but a bigger problem is often lax security and over-issuing of credentials. I just had to fix a giant cluster gently caress caused by someone not properly using user groups on share point for years and giving any one who needed basic access (e.g. read privileges) admin because it made their job easier.

I would respect the security person if they had ever at any point in the time I've known them demonstrated even the slightest amount of knowledge or competence related to their job.

Part of my responsibilities is actually hardening and securing our environment, they run a scan tool without properly configuring it, while not understanding the output, and then report to our c-suite that we have major security issues because a racked server can be hacked via wifi since there is a CVE for a wifi exploit on the reported kernel version. Also it's already been back ported by the vendor but the scanning tool doesn't know how to read package change logs.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

StrangersInTheNight posted:

Perhaps - but if they want to collect on debts, they better have a record of the initial debt to push forward enforcement. If not they should gently caress themselves, bc otherwise cc companies could just start claiming everyone owes them. Bare minimum for debt enforcement should be ensuring and having actual proof the debt exists.

If you can't prove the payment happened, you shouldn't get to collect on it 🤷

Proof of debt didn't stop them from mass foreclosing on houses they had no proof of title on back in 09, it won't stop them with relatively piddly CC debt either.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

teemolover42069 posted:

my wife works at the same company as me in a different department. on her team up until the last couple weeks has been the most useless person I've encountered so far at this job, asks for help on the most basic poo poo on every single call, customers get mad speaking to her frequently because she's just so loving useless that even for simple poo poo like card activation she will put the customer on hold over and over again desperately pleaing in chat for someone to help her. no matter how simple the issue is she does this. she is absolutely loving useless and I don't know how she even got to where she was on a team with my wife, who is hyper competent.

well, she has now been promoted to our 'universal' call channel. this is a call channel that handles all our card types and is a higher level, higher pay grade call channel. 'problem solvers' should be on this channel, people who have a deep, comprehensive and useful knowledge of our systems. how did she get promoted to this position? I was watching job postings and didn't see this one or my wife would have applied for it. it was never mentioned to her. instead this useless loving moron was promoted from my wife's team to this relatively prestigious call channel. I'm a coach, someone who teaches agents the skills universal agents will need - I found out that she was promoted to this because I'm helping lead the training group and I recognized her from my wife complaining about what a useless drain this person is on their team and on every meeting she's involved in.

well, my wife wasn't kidding. she asks 'is mayonaisse an instrument' level questions every single meeting. she does so slowly, somehow managing to make every annoying breathing noise, every little mouth noise, come through on teams. she interrupts other people who aren't asking moronic questions. she can't handle even the simplest call type - even the ones related to the department she just promoted from. we went from a call where we reviewed calls about FICO scores and alerts to taking calls - and the last call we reviewed was a caller getting a specific type of inquiry alert and how to handle it. we went over it in detail. she asked questions even, so she was there and ostensibly paying attention.

out of curiosity I live listened to her once we left the call. the first call she got was the call type we were just speaking about less than 3 minutes prior to the call. she was utterly perplexed. completely out of her element. could not even figure out what an alert is. literally, she asked what an alert is in chat. she didn't know how to go see the alert. she asked the customer to log in to their online account and tell her what the alert says, instead of looking herself, which is trivially easy. she did not know how to do it at all, had not even heard of the tool we use for it somehow(which was vitally important to both her previous job roles). the call took 12 minutes when it should have taken 2 maximum. she was panicking the whole time.

how does this happen? how do recruiters gently caress up this badly? she is going to get defect after defect after defect and get fired in this call channel. whoever put her in this role did neither the company nor her any favor. why was she told about this posting instead of my wife? how is everyone so loving stupid? ?

She is in training. I bet anything that she was placed there to fail training so she can be let go because her previous position is no longer available.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Takes No Damage posted:

General Bullshit › Dumb poo poo your work does: I have never directly DP'd anyone

General Bullshit › Dumb poo poo your work does: They were on an OPP plan

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

~Coxy posted:

I saw a documentary about this, some Boston law firm had a fancy unisex bathroom that was entirely stalls. It ended up causing too much drama amongst the staff and clients.

I saw the same documentary and I don't think you're accurately portraying it. One of the lawyers was hallucinating dancing babies all over the place. The drama had nothing to do with the bathrooms.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
There was that in there too, yeah.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

History Comes Inside! posted:

There was a brief period where all the sketchy public bathrooms around here had weird coloured lighting that was supposedly there to make it harder to see your veins so junkies don’t just spend all day in there shooting up, but that could have just been some weird urban legend because they eventually went back to normal over the space of a couple of years.

I don't know how true it is, but blue light is considered to make it more difficult to find surface veins so if the tint was particularly blue then that might have been it.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Give a heroin junkie narcan and he'll come up swinging for the fences. In some areas it's gotten so bad that the EMTs will restrain the junkie before administering it.

Heroin is expensive, do EMTs think it just grows outta the ground or something?

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Fork of Unknown Origins posted:

No one ever reacts so today he set a quota and said we had to do at least one reaction to something posted in the team chat per day.

Time to put, "I read at least one update to the team chat today," and have everyone use their reaction on it.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
Don't forget the ring.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Volmarias posted:

:wrong:

You are welcome to talk to every date I've been on about how bad I am at just being myself!

Being bad at being yourself is a uniquely defined amount to yourself so being bad at being yourself is something only you can do best. So be bad at being yourself only the way you can be bad at doing.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

McGavin posted:

gently caress anyone who gives a computer aptitude test and doesn’t accept "I look up how to do it on Google" as an acceptable answer to anything you don't know.

Everyone at my job thinks I'm some sort of Excel wizard because whenever I'm asked to do something in Excel I just say, "Yeah, I think I can do that, send me the file and I'll take a look," and then I just google how to do it.

I've given answers in technical interviews that amounted to, "I'd do $foo using $bar commands but would need to go refresh myself with the man page or just google the syntax because it's not worth keeping that in my head unless I've done it recently," for multiple prompts and gotten an offer. Wouldn't want to work anywhere that'd consider that a failed response.

Anything that isn't a high level conversation just to prove you know what you're on about is generally a waste of time for everyone involved. You can suss out if someone is knowledgeable (at least specifically for IT positions) without ever asking to see them produce code unless you're hiring for very specific use cases.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

redgubbinz posted:

In before submitting physical printouts of your code becomes a requirement pushed by a certain subset of hiring managers with the smoothest of brains

Thanks for reminding me that there are going to be Musk stans in hiring manager positions cargo culting his greatest hits.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Volmarias posted:

I honestly wonder how many resumes are people just sending their resumes out because they need to show they've applied for jobs for unemployment purposes, whether they actually want the job or not.

I feel like the clear "finding out" results of his "loving around" stage will discourage that. He reversed course almost immediately when he realized that he would look like an idiot trying to look at code he didn't understand.

I wish I had your optimism.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Ravus Ursus posted:

So what you're saying is that I can make disturbing amounts of money as long as I have no regard for human life or the well-being of others?

Hmmmm.

If you want to maximize your amoral profits, become a sales engineer. All the lies and over promising of generic sales, but with the added bonus of using word vomit technobabble that convinces managers and raises every red flag possible for the people who will be tasked with actually using the piece of poo poo software you're foisting on them.

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Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Ravus Ursus posted:

Can I instead make a living wage with my morals uncompromised doing work that keeps me away from people?

01. Money
02. Morals
03. Sanity

Pick two.

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