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Gyoru posted:Emerald Beyond JP wikis in progress: Thank you!! Harrow posted:Is there a recommended starting character? I would say pick who you like, but if you don't know I recommend Mido, because his starting crew is very set in their ways and mimicry procs are fun, extra glimmers! In terms of branching paths this game is very much setup to be played multiple times over, I'm near the end of my 3rd playthrough and some of the same worlds didn't even let me do the same choices/paths, and from what other goons have mentioned who had the same protagonist, it's not based on that criteria. Just let the RNG take over and go with the flow for now
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# ? May 1, 2024 01:47 |
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# ? May 18, 2024 23:51 |
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Skanker posted:Got dual-wielding finally, needs rank 3 Life Sprinkler and rank 3 Mega Thrust. The tech it gives is very strong! People are still in the dark on how to get the gun+sword tech and if it also needs a rank 3 tech then it might be pretty hard to figure out. so is mega thrust also longsword, or what? i haven't seen that one.
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# ? May 1, 2024 01:56 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:so is mega thrust also longsword, or what? i haven't seen that one. Rapier skill, and yeah Life Sprinkler is exclusive to sword. Need to look at the weapon and skill icons to distinguish them. It took a while to spark, and quite a long time to get to rank 3.
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# ? May 1, 2024 02:00 |
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Skanker posted:Got dual-wielding finally, needs rank 3 Life Sprinkler and rank 3 Mega Thrust. The tech it gives is very strong! People are still in the dark on how to get the gun+sword tech and if it also needs a rank 3 tech then it might be pretty hard to figure out. Sword and Gun needs Kaleidoscope (dagger) and Mightier than the Sword at rank 3. Gun dual wielding needs One for One and Bounding Shot at 3, but if you stick to one hand guns on a character long enough they'll probably get that naturally. All three have additional moves you can glimmer but I haven't managed to do so yet. Even getting the prerequisites took a whole combat heavy Tsunanori playthrough for me.
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# ? May 1, 2024 02:25 |
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En Garde Motherfuckers posted:Sword and Gun needs Kaleidoscope (dagger) and Mightier than the Sword at rank 3. Gun dual wielding needs One for One and Bounding Shot at 3, but if you stick to one hand guns on a character long enough they'll probably get that naturally. Wow, very annoying skills to get ranked up, but thanks a ton for the information. Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.
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# ? May 1, 2024 02:46 |
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Definitely feels like ng+ territory unless you start out from the gate with a starter character in mind
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# ? May 1, 2024 03:49 |
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Increment the "bosses Wednesday obliterated via Showstoppers" counter On what was going to be my last attempt at the Necronomicon boss fight before I moved onto the next world, she took it out solo from half health via two consecutive Showstopper rounds - and the final round was one where it was blocking due to queueing up its summon ability. But nope, one unblockable and one glimmered tech in the final showstopper and she just cut it down. Wednesday: is good
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# ? May 1, 2024 13:51 |
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Rascyc posted:Hm I haven't gotten an a buff spell yet to compare, but I was on like gen 7 of Blaid or whomever and she'd gotten all the buff spores but they all come with a crown so I assumed they couldn't be leveled. They cost like 2-3 stars but at least they get you 2/3rd of the way to the max buff. I thought buffs kind of sucked at first but the atk one is quite nice on whoever tends to end your combos, and the speed one does noticeably mess with turn order. So you do get new roles at rank 3. Unsure on rank 4. Here are my roles for Diva: Critical Seeker (Scattered Petals rank 2, +10% critical damage) Combat Mastery for rank 3, +5% melee tech power Aegis Snipe (Mech Sonata rank 2, +20% power when quelling conditionals) Stealth Operative for rank 3, less likely to be targeted Forward Shift (Quad Missiles rank 2, tech order +1) Shooting Mastery for rank 3, shooting tech power +5% Eagle Eye (Cosmic Rave rank 2, Anti-Air) Initialization Protocol (Cosmic Rave rank 3, BP cost -1 from turn 4) It’s a bit of a mixed bag. I love initialization protocol and eagle eye for the final boss (who’s kinda still giving me issues as Diva)
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# ? May 1, 2024 20:48 |
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I think Siugnas is my favorite protagonist so far, I love when he brings up the fact that he's ~The Dismal King~ in totally unrelated conversations.
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# ? May 2, 2024 01:12 |
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Now that I've figured out the arrows on the weapon tooltip indicate how to block while attacking, everything is so much easier.
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# ? May 2, 2024 03:28 |
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Enjoying Mido roughly 90% less than my Diva run. I really, really don't like Kugutsu at all because they feel incredibly choked on character progression unless you double up on weapon types in the party, which I don't like doing to begin with.
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# ? May 2, 2024 03:39 |
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The puppets are really bad, particularly starting out, yeah.
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# ? May 2, 2024 03:50 |
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they're fine, especially if you grind out a red door until you get all the souls from it.
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# ? May 2, 2024 03:51 |
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I went the violent route in the demon world and stole so many techs off the bosses. I'm having the time of my life on Mido's route.
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# ? May 2, 2024 04:03 |
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Giving me the option to say gently caress it let's save everybody time and throw down is appreciated
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# ? May 2, 2024 04:27 |
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So do future playthroughs use data from the previous playthroughs of other characters? I've encountered some stuff in Delta base that seems awfully coincidental and it feels like decisions I made on my first Dva playthrough are having an impact. Or it could just be a coincidence.
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# ? May 2, 2024 21:13 |
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Rascyc posted:So do future playthroughs use data from the previous playthroughs of other characters? I've encountered some stuff in Delta base that seems awfully coincidental and it feels like decisions I made on my first Dva playthrough are having an impact. Or it could just be a coincidence. It does but I'm not clear how, it isn't as simple as your choices carry over.
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# ? May 2, 2024 21:18 |
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On the tech info window, does the little square with an arrow indicate that this tech will push other characters around on the timeline?
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# ? May 3, 2024 00:42 |
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[e] see below I was wrong!
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# ? May 3, 2024 01:21 |
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Mike_V posted:On the tech info window, does the little square with an arrow indicate that this tech will push other characters around on the timeline? No, it means characters will have a chance to block/evade attacks that happen before (->) or after (<-) they use that Tech. See Tips -> Combat Techniques -> Defense and Active Defense.
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# ? May 3, 2024 01:26 |
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TurnipFritter posted:No, it means characters will have a chance to block/evade attacks that happen before (->) or after (<-) they use that Tech. See Tips -> Combat Techniques -> Defense and Active Defense. [e] oh neat it's both according to the tips! Nice
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# ? May 3, 2024 01:30 |
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that's where the real finesse comes into play. i only really use that system when things are down to the wire, though.
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# ? May 3, 2024 01:31 |
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Rascyc posted:I think that's only when it's on the weapon isn't it? Techs and weapons can both have it
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# ? May 3, 2024 01:34 |
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a good example is bull block, a greatsword tech. it's slow as hell, which makes the delay effect pretty useless. but it also blocks until it goes off, which is almost always at the far end of the timeline.
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# ? May 3, 2024 01:45 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:a good example is bull block, a greatsword tech. it's slow as hell, which makes the delay effect pretty useless. but it also blocks until it goes off, which is almost always at the far end of the timeline. The bull tower boss in Yomi is a fairly funny introduction to this(and also to the mechanic that overdrives can't be blocked).
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# ? May 3, 2024 01:54 |
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it's also the system that makes martial arts good at all. for pure damage you'd do better with any other weapon type.
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# ? May 3, 2024 02:01 |
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I dunno, across a couple playthroughs I've found martial arts damage roughly on par with 1H sword and more damaging than 1H gun(outside of interrupts, where 1H gun is brutal). It gets smoked on raw throughput by the 2H weapons and spells, but 2H weapons are BP-intensive and spells have their own limitations. This might change once I'm like 15 runs in and have final tier weapons or whatever but punchman holds up pretty well so far.
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# ? May 3, 2024 02:40 |
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I thought higher battlerank was supposed to improve battle rewards but so far having carried it over into two new playthroughs thus far it has delivered nothing but severe rear end-beatings while still dropping complete junk. I think the worst part is that higher battle rank enemy types seem to become drat near immune to status effects until they're at 25% HP. Good loving luck stunning them ever, if you can even move before them since even my fairly high mobility characters regularly get pre-empted somehow despite sitting at 60 mobility with those boots that boost your timeline position even further. Where are you even supposed to find poo poo like demon blood anyways? A billion things want it. That and obsidian.
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# ? May 3, 2024 03:38 |
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Obligatum VII posted:Where are you even supposed to find poo poo like demon blood anyways? A billion things want it. I haven't found Obsidian anywhere other than very difficult Mr. S trials. Siugmas has the opportunity to obtain a lot of demon blood right before fighting his final boss. By the way, in a low-spoiler kind of way, I've gotten the best stated result on Ameya's Witchterms. Is there any other way her scenario can end? Specifically, does she ever fight a final boss?.
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# ? May 3, 2024 04:22 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:that's where the real finesse comes into play. i only really use that system when things are down to the wire, though. It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize why my chains didn't combo sometimes - you have to place a green square for them in advance! I thought they brought their own for awhile. It gets really weird when you start using two chain attacks, because if the final guy chains into a non-green square it cancels the whole combo even if they're at the end! This made spells great because they deploy like 3-4 green squares so it's a good setup for this sort of thing.
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# ? May 3, 2024 14:34 |
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one of the fire spells has a combo range of 7. it's unfortunately not that good, otherwise.
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# ? May 3, 2024 14:47 |
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Got a weapon with tech order -1. What does that mean?
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# ? May 3, 2024 14:58 |
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poe meater posted:Got a weapon with tech order -1. What does that mean? I think it means techs will move you back (tech order minus) or forward (tech order plus) an extra space in the timeline.
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# ? May 3, 2024 15:11 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:one of the fire spells has a combo range of 7. it's unfortunately not that good, otherwise. This makes me wonder, is it possible to form a combo with a showstopper? 7 spaces should be more than enough to connect them.
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# ? May 3, 2024 15:20 |
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buddychrist10 posted:This makes me wonder, is it possible to form a combo with a showstopper? 7 spaces should be more than enough to connect them. It is not. Combos override showstoppers.
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# ? May 3, 2024 15:24 |
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if your combo range meets the showstopper range, it just forms a combo.
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# ? May 3, 2024 15:27 |
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Love that, after hearing a number of villagers recount their vivid dreams after being unfrozen, Mido immediately asks each of them if they know anything about spirits like he's Ryo Hazuki trying to find out about Chinese people
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# ? May 3, 2024 22:38 |
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Mike_V posted:Love that, after hearing a number of villagers recount their vivid dreams after being unfrozen, Mido immediately asks each of them if they know anything about spirits like he's Ryo Hazuki trying to find out about Chinese people Ameya does the same thing. "Hey, you seen any cats?" "Um, what? Cats? No..."
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# ? May 3, 2024 23:51 |
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Their response generally run a range of complete gibberish, too.
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# ? May 3, 2024 23:59 |
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# ? May 18, 2024 23:51 |
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I'm a dumbass, I thought you could only trade materials lol. Time to trade away my 7 leather boots!
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