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It's an amazing insight into 99's mind.
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Jun 28, 2022 16:21
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99, great thread, keep it coming. It will also interest you to know that I too have an L shaped house (I'm sure I have mentioned this before). It too is what used to be a farm building (mine's converted from an L shaped farm steading into an L shaped bungalow, instead of just the L shaped area being used for an L shaped bungalow built from scratch like yours). Mine's structurally granite and has 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms, and a large living/kitchen space. Basically, much like yours, one side of the L is for the living/kitchen, the other side is for bedrooms/bathrooms. I've also a large detached garage. How much is the land, all the building work, permits etc etc all in? I want to compare my "move in ready" L shaped home cost to your built-from-scratch L shaped home!
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Jun 28, 2022 18:51
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Here's mine:
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Jun 28, 2022 20:34
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would your foundations also survive a 30 megaton nuclear warhead?
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Jun 28, 2022 20:36
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No, but given that the walls of the house are hewn from granite, the warhead might just bounce off of it, if it approached at a lateral, low flying trajectory and didn't have an impact/pressure based detonator.
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Jun 28, 2022 21:06
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''L"ove what you've done with the place
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Jun 28, 2022 23:04
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oh dear the riffraff are here.Steakandchips posted:How much is the land, all the building work, permits etc etc all in? I want to compare my "move in ready" L shaped home cost to your built-from-scratch L shaped home! Hmmm. I don't think theres going to be much to directly compare between your heritage pad in the lovely scottish mountains and my shrek proof misery bungalow. I'm really uncomfortable talking about money here. Lol I know I whinge when things cost ten grand this and ten grand that. the joke of the thread title (a quick and easy house build) has very much become my daily refrain. So many things I underestimated the cost and difficulty associated. For instance just being slightly away from the road has cost probably... an extra 50k all in when you add it up, compared to a house right adjacent to the road. Its time too, which costs money. Sadly a lot of the extra costs that I was too inexperienced to predict means a lot of the extra features that would have set this aside from a developer home are being dropped. I lamented this in a different thread but they are things I would love and enjoy but house prices don't reflect so theres no way to ever reclaim the cost. This isnt about flipping the house or anything its about acknowledging how far over budget I am and somewhat sensibly insulating myself from risk. I hope its OK to say that the original business case for this house was that the end result could and would be worth £450k and outgoings would be limited to £400k. That is out the window with the cost overuns, covid, brexit, etc. If I was 3 years ago now knowing what I do now I wouldn't have done this. However, it wasn't all about money it was also about experience, fun and getting something the way you want that you can't with a developer bought home which was the most likely alternative in this instance. Realistically, whilst overall costs and my cashflow are worries, provided I finish the house I am not too worried about the final calculus as I think I have been very worst case scenario about the final house value. But again money sucks and is depressing, so I'll probably just post loads of pictures and swear words again from now on. Er also lol, the riffraff comment wasnt (lol exclusively) about you by the way.
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Jun 28, 2022 23:32
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I'll probably just post loads of pictures and swear words again from now on. 
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Jun 28, 2022 23:34
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NotJustANumber99 posted:shrek proof misery bungalow  just had to pull this gem out for appreciation
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Jun 29, 2022 00:01
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why the gently caress not lol I apologise this probably won't be a highly curated post. But we're ordering poo poo. and getting lorries, and more importantly materials in.      Still in heights of covid, you know how difficult toilet roll is to get, so get a crane load imho  hosed up and didn't get all the floor beams I needed now that I've added that plant room the more diligent amongst you noticed so got some more cheeky short beams for that  Then once we've got our builder's merchants setup at bottom of site start effortlessly using my 100% reliable digger to move materials around as and when necessary   hmmm, you may have noticed some stuff turned up not on pallets. Didn't know that could happen, so collect a few gumtree freebies that would otherwise be destined for some awkward and horrible upcycling no doubt and return them to their rightful destiny as actual pallets. All be it I have to use my actual hands, and muscles.   Only thing we can't seem to get delivered is cement. Builder's merchant havent got it and when they have its by the bag and expensive. Look to the local DIY stores who have all seemingly instigated 5 bag limits. So I begin buying it up a few bags a ta time to store in the container.  Lol I get banned from the local b&q but find a naive wickes nearby with seemingly no limits and stock.  but it's surprising how few bags of cement you can put in a trailer before your car's rear suspension starts to plead mercy  Anyway, get set for now...  Just need like a builder or someone I guess?
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Jun 29, 2022 00:36
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Still in heights of covid, you know how difficult toilet roll is to get, so get a crane load imho How many lifetimes of supply is pictured here? lol
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Jun 29, 2022 00:43
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NotJustANumber99 posted:but it's surprising how few bags of cement you can put in a trailer before your car's rear suspension starts to plead mercy Merely a tongue weight problem. You need to stack more of the bags behind the trailer axle. Then it's 100% safe.
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Jun 29, 2022 00:45
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99, it’s all good, we don’t have to talk money if you’re uncomfortable about it. Regarding the house being further from the road resulting in more expenses; further back from the road is also quieter. Worth the trouble in the long run I’m sure. What fancy features have you descoped due to overrunning initial building costs? Solar? Batteries? Heat pumps? Pool?
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Jun 29, 2022 01:15
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Motronic posted:Merely a tongue weight problem. You need to stack more of the bags behind the trailer axle. Then it's 100% safe. I don't disagree but looking at that trailer tire it's pretty close to maxed out too.
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Jun 29, 2022 02:02
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you guys aint seen nothing yet
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Jun 29, 2022 02:04
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IOwnCalculus posted:I don't disagree but looking at that trailer tire it's pretty close to maxed out too. I said it's 100% safe. Don't ruin my thread content IOC.
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Jun 29, 2022 02:46
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NotJustANumber99 posted:you guys aint seen nothing yet
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Jun 29, 2022 04:22
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i bought a house, its year old. one of the things I would have done is at least run some Ethernet to each of the rooms and terminated it in the basement. it was nice not having to make a million decisions tho. i know myself well enough that it would have resulted in indecisive lockup kudos to you for going for it! keep posting. love the layout!
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Jun 29, 2022 04:37
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Cant wait for the doom level post
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Jun 29, 2022 06:21
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Running Ethernet through the house was the first thing I got an electrician to do when I bought this place last year. Worth every penny. I’ve now got at least four drops in each room, terminating in a patch panel in a network cabinet in my utility room.
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Jun 29, 2022 08:10
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Yeah going to have a Jefferies tube running the length of the loft to run whatever number we're up to Ethernet cable along with HVAC to every room. And have a cabinet built in at the wasted space end of the loft that's filled with roof structure. Probably where I'll put the "house brain" that runs all the other systems, like the facial/gait recognition for unlocking the front door.
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Jun 29, 2022 10:53
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Don't put the data cabinet in the loft, it'll be a pain in the arse to beep boop. Put it in the utility room.
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Jun 29, 2022 11:44
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Put it in the plant room with all the other plants
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Jun 29, 2022 11:50
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Me imagining 99's plant room  
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Jun 29, 2022 11:55
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Hadlock posted:Me imagining 99's plant room Over here they call that an old folks incubator (as best as I can translate it anyway: pensionärskuvös).
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Jun 29, 2022 11:58
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My wife is in love with the idea of a solarium. The utility room, as it's quite warm due to the large amount of windows, has an arm chair crammed in there because SUN.
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Jun 29, 2022 12:05
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Steakandchips posted:My wife is in love with the idea of a solarium. The utility room, as it's quite warm due to the large amount of windows, has an arm chair crammed in there because SUN. Why are you all putting utilities in your plant rooms and windows in your furnace rooms??
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Jun 29, 2022 12:36
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Washer, dryer, chest freezer, bulk storage. That sort of thing.
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Jun 29, 2022 12:38
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Slugworth posted:What does utility room in this context mean? I'm used to utility room being the place where utilities are, such as the furnace and water heater. You know, a plant room apparently. Are you American? Utility rooms in the UK are where washing machines/dryers/supplementary fridges/freezers etc live.
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Jun 29, 2022 12:42
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Thread needs more Tesla jokes. Why did the tesla owner cross the road?
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Jun 29, 2022 12:50
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to avoid his self driving murdercar?
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Jun 29, 2022 12:57
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NotJustANumber99 posted:like the facial/gait recognition for unlocking the front door.
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Jun 29, 2022 13:28
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fridge corn posted:Put it in the plant room with all the other plants My data cabinet has a plant in its utility room. 
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Jun 29, 2022 14:15
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And I've got builders! real ones, who build things above ground. Well technically we're still underground but close. So I've actually gone with the brother of my original groundworker. You remember, the guy who turned up for a hour or two a year ago, was out of his depth and left. This guy seems great though, he talked about colours of mortar, stuff like that, happy to work with me however I want. Quoted me a per block and brick price, which I sent to my up north builder mate who OK'd it as very similar to his rates. Anyway his initial quote visit hes in his piece of poo poo van, after I say yeah cool lets do it he comes back a second time after hours to check whats what the day before he's coming to start. Hes in an... I dunno 80k merc amg 65 or something... Like, thats fine, why not, why shouldn't he be successful. It just feels a bit alarm bells. I whatsapp my builder mate for a sanity check and he says don't worry his helicopter was probably just in for repairs. yeah OK, good point. So all we're actually getting for now is literally one run round of heavy duty blocks (7.3kn), 100mm inner leaf and 140mm outer leaf, round the hole perimeter to support the beam and block floor which they'll immediately disappear for, to allow me to do.    All pretty straight forward. But also we need to leave a bunch of gaps with steel rebar reinforced lintels for all the services, mainly sewers to exit through.   We leave quite a few options in the plant room cos obviously all the plants in here are going to need access to get their roots through  fence repairs holding up great, nothing to worry about there  And here's bobby's favourite moment. It doesn't seem so bad now in context I don't think. As I say these guys only need to leave me one ring of blockwork for now to allow me to put my floor in, before I call them back, or don't, for the whole rest of all the walls I want to pay them to do. You'd think they'd be keen to treat this phase as an opportunity to demonstrate the best of their works. To prove to me they've heard me and they're all in on the level of quality I'm after. So you've got to wonder  wtf is this?
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Jun 29, 2022 22:48
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NotJustANumber99 posted:
Ask him for his merc level job not his van level job.
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Jun 29, 2022 23:04
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That’s a Tesla level job
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Jun 29, 2022 23:33
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quote:I whatsapp my builder mate for a sanity check and he says don't worry his helicopter was probably just in for repairs. (wince)
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Jun 29, 2022 23:38
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VelociBacon posted:Ask him for his merc level job not his van level job. lol. Also, what are those two pieces of rebar sticking out of the ground? What are they attached to and what are they getting tied into? I thought all of the rebar was tied from the pilings into your blast proof foundation already.
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Motronic posted:lol. theyre just string line thingys I stuck my yellow hats on because I am a dedicated safety officer
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