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Loyld I think must be genuinely smitten because episode 1 established him as being ultra observant and paranoid and quick to suspect people after sherlock scanning them but Yor despite his initial confusion at their first meeting doesn't seem to be setting off any alarm bells despite clearly doing or acting in ways that should be suspicious? My interpretation then is Loyld is maybe actually in love and this is making him a tad blind. While Yor is established already as being a bit of a scatterbrained blunt instrument and it makes sense for her to not pick up on the ways Loyld isn't as he seems. The fake country names were a little confusing but to be clear, Loyld is an agent from the "West" while Yor is an assassin working for Anime Not!East Germany?
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Clarste posted:Pretty sure he actually has a concussion from the car crash. Yeah I half overlooked/forgot about this but I feel like he mostly seemed to have recovered by that at the point of driving Yor back home, which is when we see Yor doing more spy kicks.
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Apr 16, 2022 23:48
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Nitrousoxide posted:Yor just does jobs for her handler. They may or may not be working for a government. We don't know yet. This episode Yor described her target as a "traitor" so that's why I'm inclined to believe that her handler works for Yeast Hermany.
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Apr 17, 2022 00:11
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Kotoura-san was an anime that goes into basically what its like to be a telepath in a family or social situations where people didn't appreciate having their inner thoughts blurted out.
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Apr 18, 2022 03:36
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Loid will become genuinely smitten with Yor (and vice versa) because otherwise it wouldn't be much of a show, would it? Like I dunno I just remember this one minor plot point from Power Rangers where it turned out that the love potion never worked on Lord Zedd and he'd been lovestruck at first sight with Rita Repulsa the entire time was kinda sweet and a hilarious twist; and the idea that maybe Loyld thinks he's just focused on the mission but was actually awe struck at first sight gives me similar cool vibes. 
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Apr 19, 2022 19:21
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I wonder how accurate the designs are for East Germany/Former USSR/Eastern Bloc in terms of interior design, architecture, cars etc.
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Apr 23, 2022 22:42
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TV Zombie posted:Can just a call about someone being single really be reason to call the government to suspect someone for being a spy? Yor's colleagues are dicks. I'm not super current on my East Germany knowledge, so obviously grain of salt; but in general I assume it's referencing the Stasi and the overwhelming surveillance they employed over East Germans, to the point it is said when informants are factored in, there was around 1 stasi agent per 6.5 East Germans. If it were the stasi then doubtlessly Yor would already have a file; as would her colleagues.  Whether a single phone call would be enough is an open question more for people who researched this period (like Cyrano IIRC); presumably if I recall correctly from various readings a single phone call alone probably wouldn't be enough; bureaucrats overseeing this would be aware of individuals seeking to game the system to eliminate rivals and do some sort of due diligence in verifying the claims (all of which depends on the era, i.e 1930's USSR would gleefully arrest anyone to meet purge quotas). Yor all those other spy/assassin traits (being single into her late 20s, mysterious relatives, etc) presumably would result in the investigation gaining steam. If Yor is an "officially" sanctioned assassin for the Ostanian government and not merely a black ops sort of agent for plausible deniability purposes I think such an investigation would probably get quickly swept under the rogue once it worked its way through the system and the right pair of eyes got to it; and end up potentially backfiring on the people informing on her as "reporting a state asset is just the sort of thing a western spy would do hrmmm?" Either way, messy for Yor's mission. Zwiebel posted:A lot of the architecture and designs are pretty on point for Germany and east Germany in general. You can probably spot a Trabbi here and there (a famous eastern german car) and the storefronts look pretty accurate to me. You can still find a lot of streets that look pretty much like some of the stuff that's shown in here, so they probably did a good amount of research. Interesting! One reason why I asked because at least one of the skyline/overview shots had a lot of random looking buildings, or at least they looked a little too random when usually cities, especially in Europe I'd figure would have a bit more consistency; but it also occurs to me that East Berlin in particular could maybe be quite random due to the various periods of architectural prominence between the Kaiser era, the Nazi era, the destruction of WW2 resulting in rebuilding under the Soviet era with Socialist inspired architecture and maybe that's why it was a little random. If it were a Soviet city I'd imagine more Khrushchyovkas and part of my was expecting more buildings along those lines. Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Apr 23, 2022 |
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Fun fact, the obsession with elegance this episode by our presumably Eastern Bloc upper crusts is not inaccurate! At least in Russia even during the Soviet era there's quite the obsession among many Russians about kulturny-ness. Things that seem kulturny, were quite desirable/fashionable. Which makes sense as it basically literally means cultured; as one famous example, Khrushchev really liked his bowler hat and described it as kulturny. A popular culture example would be the various Russian/Soviet characters in Harry Turtledove's World War series who flip out every fancy foreign (or handsome) things as kulturny.
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Apr 30, 2022 22:42
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The true enemy of the Daleks have arrived.
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May 1, 2022 00:36
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"Are these numbers real?"
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Unlucky7 posted:I love that the other agents were all in on it as well. Sort of. They're basically rationalizing that this is somehow super important for the mission; and in it to see Loid's skills; I dont think there was anything to indicate they were doing this for say, Anya's own sake.
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May 8, 2022 02:19
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Carlosologist posted:I love that Loid's only issue with Yor going ham was that she shouldn't have been doing physical attacks since she was supposed to be a witch I wonder if he's chalked it up as being drunken fisticuffs or if his own skills are so high that he's subconsciously raised the bar as to what other people should be able to accomplish?
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May 8, 2022 03:08
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Unlucky7 posted:I feel like Loid and Yor are basically Archer characters, without the misanthropy: Good at what they do, but dumb at just about everything else. Archer characters aren't really good at their jobs either 
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May 8, 2022 16:14
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I like how Anya *is* sorta magoo'ing her way through this, first by winning over the CEO girl so my expectation now is she wins over Damian essentially by standing up to him.
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May 14, 2022 21:10
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I know it probably wouldn't have been "accurate" but I really think it was a missed oppurtunity to not go "Hello darkness my old friend" instead. Sydin posted:I was spoiled on smug Anya but regardless the anime didn't disappoint. I imagine it's because her "brother" (who I have to assume is actually her handler who she just thinks is her brother) hasn't met Loid yet and wants to give her time to settle down with her husband like a support've brother before giving her more work to do.
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May 14, 2022 22:31
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I like how she actually very clearly looks to make sure the teacher isn't looking before Falcon Punching damian.
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May 15, 2022 19:18
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Waffleman_ posted:Series takes place in fake Germany. This reminds me of the "Hellsing is by a Japanese mangaka" vs "But it's set in England my dear" early 2000's discourse.
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May 17, 2022 03:59
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tsob posted:What was that discourse even about? Both of those things are true, but what was either side trying to claim, ultimately? "discourse" is maybe strong a word, I'm making more of a jokey reference to something Crispin Freeman explained to an audience member who insisted it should be Arucard and not Alucard; which happened largely because as shown in Shirobako it can be a pain to contact the mangaka for clarification which results in oddities like the subtitles being one way (allegedly that's what the director insisted on) and the dub being another way until they were able to get Hirano's input to confirm that it's Alucard and not Arucard so it got corrected later.
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Hahaha I knew it! That Yor's brother clearly works for the Eastovia's government; although maybe he's not Yor's handler.Doodles posted:Speaking of which, looks like the effluvia is about to hit the rotary oscillator. I had to google some of these words to figure out what you were going for. 
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May 21, 2022 23:39
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Ragnar34 posted:Damian sees Anya as he imagines her to be rather than who she is. Punching him is what got his attention, but he can't even remember her eyes when they're right in front of him, and he thinks she's "demure." The marriage is doomed. A lot of people when they develop a crush on someone have an imagined ideal version of that person in their head for a while; and Damian's a kid. Hopefully he'll see her closer to the real her.
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Eggplant Squire posted:Wow Yor's brother sucks so bad hahah To be fair he's very drunk and literally out of his mind. missed opportunity tbh for him to react in a much funnier way. "Omg are you so deeply in love that even a single touch is like a electric shock!?"
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May 28, 2022 19:42
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Sephyr posted:Yor repeatedly coming home soaked in murderblood and bringing gifts to her brother, and him STILL being clueless, is just priceless. Yor I'm discovering must emit some kind of Doctor Who-esque perception filter; because this episode confirms that yes, Loylyd can indeed Sherlock scan and deduce from a single conversation a bro's entire life story but still has no clue about Yor other than "pretty girl go brr".
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May 28, 2022 21:22
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Sydin posted:Well it turns out I was correct that Yuri was going to be a siscon character, but at least it's been tame so far. He's framed a lot more as just being totally blindsided by his sister suddenly being married to a stranger without him having known. But hand holding!!! 
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Nephthys posted:Even if Yuri does like Yor as more than a brother, he definitely isn't aware of it. He was pushing Yor to get a boyfriend in ep 2, remember. It's mostly the extreme circumstances and being very drunk that made him react this strongly. Kinda feels like he wants her to get a bf so he can have the satisfaction of shutting that down.
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Sydin posted:Also I love that Anya's crazy relative universe just keeps expanding and she just thinks that her uncle being her dad's nemesis is cool as gently caress. I don't think she's quite connected those dots yet, she just thinks secret police sounds cool, ergo Yuri must also be cool.
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chiasaur11 posted:I mean, in Anya's case that's just going Sherlock Holmes rather than Father Brown. Mind reading is impossible, kids being weirdly observant is possible (if sometimes unlikely) so Anya is just weirdly observant. Yeah for a series that's generally decently grounded it's definitely a weird blind spot but there's a combination of things that make it handwave-able. 1. Loid is just consistently stressed, even in moments like the family dinner where he seems relaxed he's really not. He's busy overanalyzing and focused on Yuri, and likewised stressed over needing to get even a little intimate with Yor. 2. Yor had said she takes martial arts classes so having some combat ability makes sense; her having enough combat ability to put Twilight on the backfoot should maybe be pushing it a little but Yor was always drunk in those moments so maybe Twilight is passing it off as the martial arts equivalent of beginner's luck; i.e "There's no one more dangerous to a black belt than a white belt". 3. I think there's also a bit of just mentally doubling down. It's one thing to suspect Yor over Yuri but I suppose Twilight's Mentat like logic brain doesn't want to admit that there's something odd about her physical abilities because that would open up new avenues of suspicion, which he doesn't want so it gets shut down. While suspecting the tie between Yor and Yuri is more about Yuri than it is about Yor? I also think we or rather Twilight haven't really seen Yor act like a super skilled assassin, except for that one moment where she was drunk but tripped over her heel snapping which kinda counteracts the idea of Yor being skilled; instead from Loid's perspective we've mostly seen Yor just being ridiculously strong and fast, that claw swipe/slap at Loid's head was hilarious, and aside from maybe the fork we haven't seen anything indicative that Yor's skillset would be great for assassination. Winning tavern brawls more like it. I also don't think we've seen or heard anything about Twilight's organization being concerned for an enemy agent named "Thorn Princess" either that I'm remembering, so maybe dealing with Oddjob like enemy Super-Agents just isn't Loid's concern. These are still largely rationalizations but maybe they make sense; we've never really seen Loid remark on Yor's strength which is what mainly makes it odd when he otherwise is thinking about and remarking on and observing everything else.
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Lethemonster posted:Loid has learned to infer peoples actual intentions and core principles and it is completely blindsiding him here. Perfecting spycraft so he can see under the surface has left him almost ignoring the surface of other people, he is so used to it all being a front. Yor is, at heart, a good and air headed person who only cares about looking after Anya and her other loved ones. She doesnt have a malicious bone in her body and he cant reconcile being a genuine softie with being a super threat, if he even registers it. I like this a lot! Also Loid as a himbo 
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Mordja posted:wut A show can be both well grounded in realism/plausibility and also contain fantastical elements. The groundedness is what allows the viewer to more easily relate to the characters and their motivations/actions which contextualize the more fictional genre styling elements.
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Adder Moray posted:People say this, but I don't really agree. We're working backwards from the solution. Loid has no reason to suspect Yor is an assassin. It's not a video game class, it doesn't give you super human strength when you take it. That Yor is a particularly talented fighter is something to key into, but is somewhat justified by the fact that she was a girl alone raising her brother by doing possibly questionable odd jobs. It makes sense she would learn to defend herself, especially if her strength is to be taken as abnormal in universe. Well except for that one time when she snuck up on Loid, but it hasn't really come up since. So far its just Loid who just consistently moves according to his training, like that teacher from Fate/Stay Night with the perfect martial arts breathing.
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Electric Phantasm posted:Loid just keeps giving Anya crossword puzzles and she keeps finishing them everytime so he has no reason to doubt her intelligence. I like how whenever she tries to cheat in school it never works because no one actually knows the answer. I feel like this says something.
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Being Emil is suffering. Pleasant surprise at Damian's arc this episode, he might actually become kinda cool with a little more maturity and humility. Xelkelvos posted:Lmao that You didn't even teach Anya to do one of the most important things in her intense training which is how to actually throw a ball She did I think, the only issue was I think Anya faltered and placed her foot wrong at the end; probably due to the difference between the smooth floor of the gym vs the friction of the dirt/grass of the park. Anya just needed more ball throwing practice.
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I imagine it's also kinda a reference to how the USSR would cheat at the Olympics by having "soldiers" training 24/7 to win gold medals.
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The kennel at the end. 
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Studying only gets harder as you get older. I like how Anya basically went running probably the moment Loyld decided it was study time.
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I hope though that she does make some progress in her grades soon though. 
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Loylds shirt he's wearing is probably meant to go with the mariner theme of their outing to the aquarium but it's also the shirt commonly worm by Soviet /Russian navy infantry and vdv/spetsnaz. I wonder if that's intentional.
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The funny thing is that since Anya is actually super invested in Loylds spycraft and thinks its rad, she actually I would suspect has no issue with loyld not giving her as much attention I feel the typical child would want. As long as she can get the after action report aftwards! Such as when loyld came back with the gift and cover story. So much of today's adventure was really more about appearances though Anya I'm sure enjoys and appreciates the outing as well. As long as she gets some attention, care and interaction she's probably pretty good.
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Jun 26, 2022 02:54
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I think I've vaguely seen this sort of setup before, where the last episode kinda repeats the gist of the first episode but in a way that conveys how the characters have grown since that first episode?
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The left image looks like something out of Baki.
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