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dougdrums posted:I think Iowa produces far more food products and food stock than California though. lmao
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I assumed someone who knew more than I do would inform me if this was really the case or not, but I guess I'll have to settle with the sage expression, "lmao". You can't feed pigs cotton or almonds, and I'm sure that they don't make cheap fuels and oils. The census bureau says that dollar for dollar, California's almond exports are about three times Iowa's agricultural GDP, so I'll just assume my last post was incorrect. I'm not sure how much of it is used domestically in either state, though, and a lot of our agriculture production is used as inputs for other processes. Also I'm not trying to defend Iowa or anything, its probably the opposite. BeAuMaN posted:Most of those subsidies for California are for Cotton... which drives people to plant Cotton because of subsidies. Which hey, if there's one strength to the whole CalExit thing, it's that California's subsidies won't be driven by federal farming subsidies that are mainly focused on the midwest. That makes sense. It's just that in Iowa you have a billion people with 40 acre corn and soy farms that aren't really gonna grow anything other than corn or soy, since we've gotta feed all these pigs. California probably has a real demand for cotton.
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Nov 14, 2016 23:52
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lol at this thread and lol at OP
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Agriculture in California is nice because there's never anything you could want that you can't get actually fresh as long as it's still in season. And half the fruits and poo poo grow fine in the winter here. Most of them get a little small though.
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dougdrums posted:I assumed someone who knew more than I do would inform me if this was really the case or not, but I guess I'll have to settle with the sage expression, "lmao". You can't feed pigs cotton or almonds, and I'm sure that they don't make cheap fuels and oils. The census bureau says that dollar for dollar, California's almond exports are about three times Iowa's agricultural GDP, so I'll just assume my last post was incorrect. I'm not sure how much of it is used domestically in either state, though, and a lot of our agriculture production is used as inputs for other processes. Also I'm not trying to defend Iowa or anything, its probably the opposite. For ecological/environmental reasons, California has some of the best and varied perfect climate to grow almost anything, as opposed to Iowa. It has amazing climates, amazing soil... though a great part of this is due to the engineering miracle where we turned the central valley desert (Well, it wasn't exactly all desert, more like praire lands) into the perfect farming area via great water infrastructure... infrastructure that hasn't been invested in properly for a growing population for a long time. Economically it's not viable to grow a lot of crops though due to high property costs, labor costs, and other economic factors. And the coast also makes for some great wine grape climates... the south for some great oranges... I mean, I'm from a farming family so my viewpoint is biased obviously, but these natural resources are pretty amazing and I find it pretty sad that over time the housing developments continue to grow further outward and eventually California will become One Huge City like Coruscant or something.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:im texan so yes My condolences.
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BeAuMaN posted:For ecological/environmental reasons, California has some of the best and varied perfect climate to grow almost anything, as opposed to Iowa. It has amazing climates, amazing soil... though a great part of this is due to the engineering miracle where we turned the central valley desert (Well, it wasn't exactly all desert, more like praire lands) into the perfect farming area via great water infrastructure... infrastructure that hasn't been invested in properly for a growing population for a long time. Economically it's not viable to grow a lot of crops though due to high property costs, labor costs, and other economic factors. And the coast also makes for some great wine grape climates... the south for some great oranges... sorry bra climate change is going to turn your people's state of drugifornia into a mad max-esque wasteland
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:sorry bra climate change is going to turn your people's state of drugifornia into a mad max-esque wasteland yeah it would be terrible if it stopped raining in the central valley
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Nov 18, 2016 07:50
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renounce the very concept of statehood, each man is his own state!!!!
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:sorry bra climate change is going to turn your people's state of drugifornia into a mad max-esque wasteland Still a better place to live than any given fly over state. Would rather die gloriously in a shiny and chrome dune buggy death battle than slowly through boredom and heroin.
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Nov 18, 2016 08:51
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so did it happen yet or what
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Al! posted:so did it happen yet or what the northwest secessionist forces will break from the USA in 2031
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Xelkelvos posted:At a certain point, small "family" farms will and should be phased out as they're proportionally more costly to operate compared to large, industrial farms. Not that they're any better, but they're more efficient what with economies of scale and everything. Obviously there are niches that can be filled by smaller types of farms because of certain specialties which require more attention than the hardier mass market varieties or have a smaller market cap or some other economic reason, but farming because the family's been doing it needs to be a thing of the past at this point. Of course everyone, private or public, who's into farming will pay to keep agricultural subsidies around, but I'd imagine enough of a PR campaign to paint it as a sort of government handout/welfare would sour any non-farmer on it a tinge. Hi. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3760900&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=108#post466651882 Saying that "small family farms" should be phased out, is basically the same as saying these people should be dispossessed and forced to work as agricultural labor for the land barons. If they're even rehired, considering the efficiencies in labor on an industrial farm. You're gonna need a better solution for this problem than the inevitability of progress.
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:sorry bra climate change is going to turn your people's state of drugifornia into a mad max-esque wasteland *a tiny white man drinking off-white liquid riding the shoulders of 350lb Mexican farm worker walks in* WHO RUNS ALMONDTOWN?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Hi. Also there are some benefits of not mass-producing everything, you can spread out compost and pigshit, etc, so you dont make more of those pigshit lakes that will take decades to decay, and more seed variety and crop location mixing resists diseases.
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got any sevens posted:Also there are some benefits of not mass-producing everything, you can spread out compost and pigshit, etc, so you dont make more of those pigshit lakes that will take decades to decay, and more seed variety and crop location mixing resists diseases. The issues that can only be resolved through socialism keep stacking up. Weird.
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California tumbles into the sea That'll be the day I go back to GBS Tried to warn you About Abuela and Daddy Tee But I can't seem to get to you through the U.S. Mail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ9Xk-VoGqo
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Nov 24, 2016 17:43
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Dang now how long the wall gonna be Not that as a proud future calimerican citizen I plan to pay for any of it
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Nov 24, 2016 19:33
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The wall is metaphorical. The wall was in our hearts all along.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The issues that can only be resolved through socialism keep stacking up. Weird. *cracks knuckles* sounds like its time to intensify a neoliberalism already in crisis!
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