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didnt macron somehow avoid the stink of scandal and corruption despite literally being an ex-banker? hillary is awful lol.
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cargo cult posted:didnt macron somehow avoid the stink of scandal and corruption despite literally being an ex-banker? hillary is awful lol. people care about that stuff a bit less in france (on average) but mostly macron hasn't been a bit of a creep for 3 decades the way hilary has so when people tried to reasonably point out he's super friendly with banks and probably doesn't give a crap about the common person, it didn't become a completely intractable talking point.
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May 9, 2017 18:06
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Jose posted:run a young guy married to someone much older cougarbait is in?
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Coolguye posted:people care about that stuff a bit less in france (on average) but mostly macron hasn't been a bit of a creep for 3 decades the way hilary has so when people tried to reasonably point out he's super friendly with banks and probably doesn't give a crap about the common person, it didn't become a completely intractable talking point. Also for whatever reason the French don't like fascists and were way more willing to hold their nose and vote for the centrist It's going to be interesting to see if they're still willing to do so after the bankers try to gut their welfare state over the next five years
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Americans decided to go for instant gratification and have a greasy, hastily made fascist while it looks like the French are choosing to let theirs sit and age for five years so they get a more refined one How very european
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:
hey this is a fantastic chart is there one like it for the american election?
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May 9, 2017 20:37
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i'm glad that the rising tide of global fascism hit america first
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May 9, 2017 20:40
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Al! posted:bernie would have won
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May 9, 2017 21:18
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Invest in getting our education system as good as France's.
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May 9, 2017 21:23
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Condiv posted:cougarbait is in? macron won didn't he
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May 9, 2017 21:47
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Al! posted:le bernie would have won
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Invest in getting our education system as good as France's. this also
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May 9, 2017 23:30
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logikv9 posted:i'm glad that the rising tide of global fascism hit america first Eh. Turkey.
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May 10, 2017 00:29
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Flavahbeast posted:what lessons should american progressives draw from Macron's massive victory over his right-wing rival? Don't vote for the nazi just because your holy prophet lost
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Probably Magic posted:Eh. Turkey. that wasn't really that sudden, erdogan just took his time to slowly take over everything instead of campaigning on it
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May 10, 2017 05:15
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The lesson to learn: Vote.
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May 17, 2017 13:54
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The American left has almost nothing to learn. France elected a socialist in Hollande in the previous election and was subsequently super unpopular. Macron ran as center left and voters selected him as a repudiation of both far left and far right.
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May 17, 2017 14:33
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Vladimir Putin posted:The American left has almost nothing to learn. France elected a socialist in Hollande in the previous election and was subsequently super unpopular. Macron ran as center left and voters selected him as a repudiation of both far left and far right. Macron absolutely did not run as center-left and the only way you could assume this is because the self-proclaimed US center is so far right it's starting to embrace loving Reagan. Also the PS embrace of neoliberalism predates Hollande. The main reason Hollande got a landslide at the time was not being called Sarkozy and giving some mild hope that the PS might go back to being a left wing party, which he caved on in about five minutes. Agnosticnixie has issued a correction as of 16:05 on May 17, 2017 |
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the lesson is that neolibs still didnt learn from brexit or trump and are still willing to stab lefties in the back and risk a facist getting elected
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