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got any sevens posted:I just watched Godmonster of Indian Flats last night and it has a black guy waving a loaded gun around a crowd of white people and nobody bats an eye Suspension of disbelief ruined
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Colonel Whitey posted:Suspension of disbelief ruined Yeah it was fun to watch, the audience cracked a couple jokes during it 
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Jul 9, 2018 04:49
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I always enjoyed how chillax Billy was with dealing with time travel-- it even gets a mention by Bill & Ted.
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Jul 11, 2018 17:36
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Colonel Whitey posted:Billy should have been filled with lead after discharging his weapon in a crowded mall He discharged it in a crowded school auditorium later on. I seriously doubt they’d let him do that if the movie were remade today.
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Jul 11, 2018 19:11
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The historical figured from 1 should have cameoed in heaven in 2
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Jul 11, 2018 19:26
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Holy poo poo I just found out about the new movie. Most non-non-non heinous! Also add me to the list of people who use the Circle K line habitually. God I love these movies.
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Jul 11, 2018 19:41
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Colonel Whitey posted:Billy should have been filled with lead after discharging his weapon in a crowded mall Try watching Heathers
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Jul 12, 2018 05:45
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Fart City posted:All valid questions for a movie where Napoleon goes to a water park. Napoleon doesn't just go to a water park. He goes to a water park named Waterloo. I didn't pick up on this until I watched it again a few months ago. The running Missy gag is the funniest thing in the whole movie, and another example of something that would never be allowed in a movie today. As much as I love the first movie, I've only seen the second one once. I thought it was fine but the only thing I remember were the hilariously bad future outfits. Like duct tape and Styrofoam bad.
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Jul 13, 2018 23:48
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counterfeitsaint posted:Napoleon doesn't just go to a water park. He goes to a water park named Waterloo. I didn't pick up on this until I watched it again a few months ago. I still love the way he says 'Avec...waterslides.' in his new plan to invade Europe.
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Jul 17, 2018 09:40
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Am I the only one who thinks that the real plan wasn't to ensure Bill and Ted pass their history exam, but simply to put them in proximity to so many prominent historical figures at once? I mean, it becomes much easier to base a future utopia on B&T when Socrates, Freud and Lincoln return to their respective points in history believing in Bill and Ted, right? Joan of Arc is going to bring leg warmers and Jazzercize back to France. Beethoven ends up loving Bon Jovi. The future people knew what they were doing - they seeded their culture throughout human history with the history report merely being the pretext.
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Jul 17, 2018 14:32
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Bill and Ted's time travel mechanic precludes the existence of multiple timelines. Closed causal loops are possible and the results of events can be witnessed before those events happen. History did not change as a result of Bill and Ted because in the Bill and Ted world, you can't change history. You can only cause events to transpire as they already did.
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Aug 17, 2018 02:27
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LividLiquid posted:Bill and Ted's time travel mechanic precludes the existence of multiple timelines. Closed causal loops are possible and the results of events can be witnessed before those events happen. This is why it is the best time travel movie to date. Closed causality is hard to write for, as everything is per-ordained and therefore no matter what the heroes do they will always make for the pre-existing ending even if they do nothing. The best way to write around this is to not acknowledge it explicitly, and let the characters realize it, like with Ted's dad's keys. It also means that all of the people they pulled out of history know that they're historically famous enough to be in a history report and went back to their own times and finishing their own lives knowing about late 1980's San Dimas. That's the even crazier part.
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Aug 17, 2018 19:37
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So, the next film is going to be Bill and Ted trying to make a legit causal break, only to find all of their hijinks were meant to happen? "Hey Bill, I'm gonna go back in time and have sex with your mom!" "Oh yeah? Well, I'm gonna go back in time too and have sex with YOUR mom!" *returns to their current time, only to find each of their moms knew that already, joking about it over some coffee*
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Aug 18, 2018 10:01
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jeeves posted:This is why it is the best time travel movie to date. But we're gonna' have a Terminator 1/Terminator 2 split comin' up here, if the third movie is about what they're saying it's about, so Bill and Ted's time travel will be canonically confused like Terminator's is, playing by different rules in different movies. It's the Back to the Future paradox. Sometimes Marty's actions bring about the present that he came from, and sometimes he can change the past to affect the future. This kind of inconsistency only matters to sticklers like me, but still.
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Oct 3, 2018 00:07
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LividLiquid posted:Bill and Ted's time travel mechanic precludes the existence of multiple timelines. Closed causal loops are possible and the results of events can be witnessed before those events happen. see, this doesn't quite bear out, because otherwise there's no deliberate reason for Rufus to go bother them except that he had already done so. also, y'know, they explicitly pull the princesses out of the timestream so they can date Bill and Ted. i think the phone booth Bill and Ted use works that way, definitely, but Rufus seems to have access to more powerful forms of time travel than what he gives them.
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Oct 3, 2018 02:44
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Wanna have a weird thought that seems crazy? If everything was pre-ordained, then Rufus spent his entire life knowing that HE was THE Rufus that would save the band and cause the utopia that he was born in. He knew this all of his life. It was pre-ordained since he was born. The movie never goes into that, but pre-destination is definitely what the movie shows. Ted always did steal his dad's keys, even if he thought to do it only towards the end of the film. It's what makes Bill & Ted one of the best time travel movies-- not stupid hand disappearing as a plot device-- everything was pre-ordained. The main characters were just too much of both too dumb and too living in the moment to realize it.
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Oct 3, 2018 03:26
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jeeves posted:If everything was pre-ordained, then Rufus spent his entire life knowing that HE was THE Rufus that would save the band and cause the utopia that he was born in. He knew this all of his life. It was pre-ordained since he was born. Though if there were pictures of the famous Rufus he probably started to suspect when his beard came it.
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Oct 3, 2018 04:23
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“Holy poo poo, I’m either famous 20th century comedian George Carlin, or I’m THE Rufus”
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Oct 3, 2018 18:08
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Rufus was pretty unflappable so I always assumed he knew the whole time. Makes his job all the easier really.
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Oct 3, 2018 18:14
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The real mindfuck is wondering what marty's parents thought as he was born/growing up after his time looping.
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got any sevens posted:The real mindfuck is wondering what marty's parents thought as he was born/growing up after his time looping. This is why Old Biff has a drinking problem.
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