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I didn't know that was even possible
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Sagebrush posted:When I took it apart a few days later there was no sign of the cush rubbers whatsoever, just that same green powder. who knew, Honda cush rubbers are actually made of compressed matcha
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Sagebrush posted:When I took it apart a few days later there was no sign of the cush rubbers whatsoever, just that same green powder. LMAO This brings new meaning to "consumable items" in motorcycle maintenance. Jazzzzz posted:welp I'm pretty sure you said "the cush rubbers probably need to be replaced" when I picked the bike up. Thanks for giving me a set of cush rubbers with the sale. You were very generous. Got it out for a meandering 3 hour ride today and it was like a whole new bike. Felt butter smooth and sublime all over. Even things like cornering, where you wouldn't expect the slop to show up, were night and day. It felt comparatively unsafe and unstable in sharp turns and low speed stuff before. Please enjoy this overexposed photo of a dirty motorcycle next to a lake that looks like it was taken with a disposable camera from the 90s 
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haaaa i found the picture of my cush drive after I opened it up  and this is one of Gorson's  For anyone not experienced with these devices, this is what is supposed to be inside:  so that's 3/3 now. Who else in CA has a Hawk? Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Feb 8, 2021 |
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Feb 8, 2021 00:54
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"Ablative Cushioning" by Honda
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Feb 8, 2021 01:07
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.........is the rubber actually green?
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Feb 8, 2021 01:51
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Yep
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Feb 8, 2021 02:39
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Well that explains that
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Feb 8, 2021 02:44
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Can confirm the vfr750 also has green rubber and it, too, disintegrates.
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Wait, how are you not getting a good look at the cush rubbers every time you take the wheels in for new tires? (I’m guessing the hawk isn’t built like I’m used to, in one of those pics it looks like the sprocket assembly is outside the swingarm?) Edit: before you ask I can confirm that every chain driven bike I’ve owned had some variant on the same “angle bracket iron”-looking straight box swingarm ends. Ulf fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Feb 8, 2021 |
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Ulf posted:(I’m guessing the hawk isn’t built like I’m used to, in one of those pics it looks like the sprocket assembly is outside the swingarm?) The Hawk has a single-sided swingarm like a VFR. The wheel bolts to a hub assembly on the throttle side of the swingarm, and the cush drive assembly goes on the clutch side of the swingarm (instead of fitting into the rear wheel like you're used to). Removing the rear wheel does not also require removing the cush hub or chain; they stay in place.
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Feb 8, 2021 04:24
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I've only taken wheels off a motorcycle once so far and it was twelve years ago, but the sprocket stayed on when I did it
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Feb 8, 2021 04:50
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Ah, the first time I took wheels in (for my 250) the tech looked at me like I was an idiot and handed me my sprocket and cush rubbers back. Every chain-driven bike I've had the sprocket is pretty loose and free-floating once the clamp pressure of the axle bolt is gone.
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Feb 8, 2021 05:23
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Supradog posted:Dear PO, that's not how those work.
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Gf's JS125 is definitely missing the cush drive (or at best has a very worn one) because I can rock the wheel back and forth quite a bit without the chain moving at all. I'm the PO because I can't be arsed fixing it, though neither of us is riding it hard enough to make much difference. Unrelated, I'm a double PO because I really half arsed cleaning my brake pots when I replaced the pads a couple weeks ago and now they're seizing again.
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Supradog posted:From when I bought my NX250  (the rubbers should be "straddling" those metal dividers.)
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Mine were absolutely fine when I changed the rear tyre on the SV, but since I'd already bought new ones I switched them anyway. That's my story about cush drives.
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Revvik posted:DRZ’s were like 2.1 I think? Sounds about right my DR350SE notionally holds 9L but I don't think I've gotten it low enough to put more than about 1.9 gallons in yet. Coydog posted:Been meaning to replace the cush rubbers in the Hawk for a long time. 8 months ago it felt like I had a loose chain, but the chain was fine, so it must be the cush. I kept putting it off because I barely ride due to the pandemic and I hate working on bikes. Holy hell. I remember when I took my rear end apart last fall, I was concerned about the rubbers and shared a photo in the slack chat...they looked brand new compared to some of the poo poo people are sharing here.
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Feb 14, 2021 15:08
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Razzled posted:this just puts me further in the "cush drive doesnt do poo poo" camp. I have the cush hubs on mine and I would be interested to ride regular sumo hubs side by side because mine feels too cushioned or something.
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Somehow the cush drives on my meth gixxer appeared to be in fine shape, and I don't understand how that's possible. Maybe a shop putting on new tires convinced a PO it was absolutely necessary as I can't imagine they can last 20 years.
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MomJeans420 posted:Somehow the cush drives on my meth gixxer appeared to be in fine shape, and I don't understand how that's possible. Maybe a shop putting on new tires convinced a PO it was absolutely necessary as I can't imagine they can last 20 years. They absolutely can and do last decades if you have smooth four cylinder power married to no talent.
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Jun 3, 2021 21:24
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That's surprising to hear but I'll take it, I thought time alone would degrade the rubber
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MomJeans420 posted:That's surprising to hear but I'll take it, I thought time alone would degrade the rubber It kind of does but in my experience it just degrades into a solid brick so the bike doesn't really notice the difference. The ones that really gently caress out seem to be because of salt water exposure, river crossings, just general dirt bike poo poo, or the bikes that haven't ridden in literal decades so it crumbles on the first ride. Also older bikes are chonky with generous proportions on everything. Nowadays everything has to be made as lean and light as possible to make space for bullshit you don't need, the cush drive is one thing that seems to be getting smaller and skinnier with each generation.
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