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eonwe posted:gas thread ban op smdh this language is trivializing the holocaust, ban
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Nov 24, 2019 23:15
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It was genocide of the kazakhs, all the Ukrainians were just collateral damage
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Nov 24, 2019 23:17
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genocide by famine is pretty low energy. the coal and oil lobbies know how to do it
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Nov 25, 2019 00:16
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https://yasha.substack.com/p/despite-a-jewish-president-ukraine https://yasha.substack.com/p/america-sponsors-far-right-holocaust-000 https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1108140169289441280 https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1084224226448629760
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Nov 25, 2019 01:42
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there was a soviet-wide famine that killed millions because an AFSCME sanitation worker from buffalo named jerry steel took over the soviet union and embarked on a crash program of forced collectivization as a way to industrialize the country against the advice of practically all of his advisors, most of whom got murked. the term holodomor as a ukraine-specific thing was primarily weaponized by anti-communist ukrainian exiles and the international right-wing movement to draw an equivalence between the soviet and nazi regimes, and to exploit national tensions within the soviet union, which contributed to its implosion and another three million excess deaths according to one study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC259165/ BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 02:22 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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Nov 25, 2019 02:20
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I'm going to be honest here; I thought this thread would quickly implode and I'd have to start banning people but am quite pleased to see that everyone ignored the OP's dumbass bait and mostly just decided to talk about the causes and contributing factors of the famine in Ukraine SSR (and elsewhere) the 30s.
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Nov 25, 2019 03:00
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I'm going to be honest here; I thought this thread would quickly implode and I'd have to start banning people but am quite pleased to see that everyone ignored the OP's dumbass bait and mostly just decided to talk about the causes and contributing factors of the famine in Ukraine SSR (and elsewhere) the 30s. i changed my mind, it didn't happen
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Nov 25, 2019 03:03
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I'm going to be honest here; I thought this thread would quickly implode and I'd have to start banning people but am quite pleased to see that everyone ignored the OP's dumbass bait and mostly just decided to talk about the causes and contributing factors of the famine in Ukraine SSR (and elsewhere) the 30s. C-SPAM has a legitimate problem with genocide apologia. 
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Nov 25, 2019 03:05
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hmm yes quite pleased about this genocide thread. continue, plebes
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Nov 25, 2019 03:07
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T-man posted:C-SPAM has a legitimate problem with genocide apologia. Dunno if I'd go that far but being marginally serious I do think that people here can/do overreact in defense of left or left-seeming regimes as they're (understandably) so goddamn tired of the capitalist hellnation most of us have to live in, and thus turn a blind eye toward those bad elements that do exist in the histories of the USSR and PRC among other things.
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Nov 25, 2019 03:18
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Dunno if I'd go that far but being marginally serious I do think that people here can/do overreact in defense of left or left-seeming regimes as they're (understandably) so goddamn tired of the capitalist hellnation most of us have to live in, and thus turn a blind eye toward those bad elements that do exist in the histories of the USSR and PRC among other things. bad faith arguments whereas the US is perpetuating several genocides of its own that no one has apologized for currently because neoliberalism is brain damage, which C-SPAM continuously points out and acknowledges said atrocities at the hypocrisy of the neoliberal architects responsible for them
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Nov 25, 2019 03:21
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debating if the russian or chinese famines were stalin or mao or communism's fault is retro boring poo poo the more interesting question is: will the coming hyperfamines in our 3 and 4C futures be considered Xi's fault?
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Nov 25, 2019 03:29
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the localized genocides of native american tribes and also the larger scope of native american genocide absolutely should be acknowledged by both the us government and the un and it is hosed as well, and the us is complicit in the perpetuation of other genocides across the world (currently, notably, the kurdish displacement from syria) please put this thread out of its misery e: also gently caress australia not an endorsement has issued a correction as of 03:34 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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Nov 25, 2019 03:32
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StabbinHobo posted:debating if the russian or chinese famines were stalin or mao or communism's fault is retro boring poo poo china is capitalist now so it will be the peasants' fault for not saving up to buy food
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Nov 25, 2019 03:33
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https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/1198544706126393346
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Nov 25, 2019 03:34
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not an endorsement posted:the localized genocides of native american tribes and also the larger scope of native american genocide absolutely should be acknowledged by both the us government and the un and it is hosed as well, and the us is complicit in the perpetuation of other genocides across the world (currently, notably, the kurdish displacement from syria) i get mocking bad faith arguments and making fun of genocide denial but some posters will either miss the cue, or use it as a stepping stone as real genocide denial and hide behind a paperthin veneer of irony to do it and abusing irony to perpetuate it. it is inevitable so  imo
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Nov 25, 2019 03:36
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Ah yes, Bavaria, home of the Beer Hall Putsch.
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Nov 25, 2019 03:50
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only a gun can ensure a famine never happens again
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Nov 25, 2019 03:59
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why does Bavaria have its own intelligence agency
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Nov 25, 2019 03:59
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eonwe posted:gas thread ban op shut up dumbass (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 25, 2019 04:08
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:closest American analogue is probably Reagan with AIDS; saying he -caused- it is a bit of a stretch, but it's totally uncontroversial that because he and his administration didn't give a poo poo about the people dying a lot more people died than needed to. Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:well crisis plus the guy at the top actually had to take responsibility, unlike a free market full of Rational Actors that are incapable of morality and therefore can do nothing wrong; if people starved it is because those people failed to Act Rationally for their own interests. neoliberalism was always going to be the end boss for humanity, cus nothing it does is anyone’s fault. they aren’t all coordinating their savagery to make number go up they are all just going their own way and who doesn’t like number? this is also why fascists raised by our society put soviets killed by nazis in the communist death toll column instead of the nazi death toll column
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Nov 25, 2019 04:14
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I'm going to be honest here; I thought this thread would quickly implode and I'd have to start banning people but am quite pleased to see that everyone ignored the OP's dumbass bait and mostly just decided to talk about the causes and contributing factors of the famine in Ukraine SSR (and elsewhere) the 30s. shut up bitch (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 25, 2019 04:21
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Darkman Fanpage posted:shut up dumbass dont gently caress with eonwe
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Nov 25, 2019 04:26
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You can gas the thread, but the post about keeping your grain needs to be goldmined
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Nov 25, 2019 06:13
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when you look at the sky and no rain hits your eye Holodomor-é When you beg for breadlines but J. Stalin declines Holodomor-é
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Nov 25, 2019 06:58
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Raskolnikov38 posted:why does Bavaria have its own intelligence agency f e d e r a l i s m
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Nov 25, 2019 07:18
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just ban all MLMs who aren't men loving men from this board and it would improve massively
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Nov 25, 2019 07:31
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T-man posted:just ban all MLMs who aren't men loving men from this board and it would improve massively You're actually the worst poster in every thread you frequent and cause massive derails in the most unfunny and tedious way possible
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Nov 25, 2019 07:34
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i'm not sexually attracted to men (sad but true, RIP) but i love my fellow man for real and that's why i pursue the politics that i do. i want all my big hunky fellow bois to be safe and secure and happy. also the holodomor was a tragedy. thanks
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Nov 25, 2019 07:43
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really queer Christmas posted:You can gas the thread, but the post about keeping your grain needs to be goldmined new forum title, imho
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Nov 25, 2019 07:51
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T-man posted:just ban all MLMs who aren't men loving marxism from this board and it would improve massively fixed that for you. no need to thank me
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Nov 25, 2019 07:51
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Terminal autist posted:You're actually the worst poster in every thread you frequent and cause massive derails in the most unfunny and tedious way possible Wrong
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Nov 25, 2019 08:02
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In short we're just caught up in the churn, is all
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Nov 25, 2019 08:04
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Terminal autist posted:You're actually the worst poster in every thread you frequent and cause massive derails in the most unfunny and tedious way possible there's no need for flattery my friend
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Nov 25, 2019 08:08
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T-man posted:just ban all MLMs who aren't men loving men from this board and it would improve massively Stalin is a man though
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Nov 25, 2019 11:04
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you like grain huh well then have all the grain in the world!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKQBmxEgEFM
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the soviets had flying pyramids that hoovered up all of the grain into it for storage purposes its still classified to this day
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